<Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:14:47 GMT, "r_mervart"
> <r_mervart@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> >If it is a fixed non-reducible monthly charge then it is what would
normally
> >be understood as a rental whether it includes certain types of call
without
> >further charge or not.
> No you are wrong if I took what you are saying above to be correct
> then our city transport operators are charging bus rental when they
> say I can travel anywhere in the city at any time of the day or night
> for a fixed monthly fee.
> Now I have a choice I can either buy the journeys in bulk at a very
> much reduced rate or I can pay per journey and it is exactly the same
> with Vonage and many other phone companies with the exception of BT
> who clearly state their top package includes line RENTAL and ALL
> calls. You cannot rent a line from Vonage has they have no lines to
> rent .
>
Mobile operators do not have lines to rent but charge a line rental or boast
about not charging the line rental (e.g. Virgin, EasyMobile) - which implies
they could do if they decided to. I do not want to get hang up on a meaning
of the word rental but to me there is a question of the payment of either
1) a fixed irreducible monthly fee or
2) no monthly fee at all and paying only for calls (pay as you go).

I am not saying what and who is better but as far as I understand it I do
not have that second option with Vonage. In other words, taking your
example, I do not have that option paying for just one bus journey. I just
want to be clear about it.
Thanks
Roman