ßødincµs²°°° wrote:
> Recently, Ivor Jones popped out over the fence
> around uk.telecom.voip and said...
> |"ßødincµs²°°°" <this.em@il.is.invalid> wrote in message
> |news:MPG.1fcc5d86656d44e19896e6@text.news.blueyon der.co.uk
> |
> |[snip]
> |
> |> Skype is an Instant Messaging system, like Yahoo (that
> |> was doing voice chat AGES before Skype) or MSN.
> |> It doesn't belong to VoIP, the VoIP protocols are SIP and
> |> H323.
> |
> |Actually, much as I hate to admit it, technically it *is* voice over ip..!
> |
> |BTW there is also IAX.
> |
> |Ivor
> |
> Forgot 'bout IAX, is it a ratified standard like SIP or H323?
>
> Anyway, ever heard about ISO OSI levels? Well, IM (Skype, Yahoo, etc...)
> voice traffic doesn't reach the IP ISO OSI level in the TCP stack. Being
> a proprietary protocol it stands - by definition - at application level,
> aka level 7.
> IP protocol is way down
> there
> |
> |
> |
> V

So, do you understand what the 'o' in VoIP stands for? I guess not.

Voice chat services of IM clients is clearly VoIP.