Re: Pledge to the moderator... Recently, Paul Cupis popped out over the fence
around uk.telecom.voip and said...
|ßødincµs²°°° wrote:
|> Recently, Ivor Jones popped out over the fence
|> around uk.telecom.voip and said...
|> |"ßødincµs²°°°" <this.em@il.is.invalid> wrote in message
|> |news:MPG.1fcc5d86656d44e19896e6@text.news.blueyon der.co.uk
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|> |[snip]
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|> |> Skype is an Instant Messaging system, like Yahoo (that
|> |> was doing voice chat AGES before Skype) or MSN.
|> |> It doesn't belong to VoIP, the VoIP protocols are SIP and
|> |> H323.
|> |
|> |Actually, much as I hate to admit it, technically it *is* voice over ip..!
|> |
|> |BTW there is also IAX.
|> |
|> |Ivor
|> |
|> Forgot 'bout IAX, is it a ratified standard like SIP or H323?
|>
|> Anyway, ever heard about ISO OSI levels? Well, IM (Skype, Yahoo, etc...)
|> voice traffic doesn't reach the IP ISO OSI level in the TCP stack. Being
|> a proprietary protocol it stands - by definition - at application level,
|> aka level 7.
|> IP protocol is way down
|> there
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|> V
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|So, do you understand what the 'o' in VoIP stands for? I guess not.
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|Voice chat services of IM clients is clearly VoIP.
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Do you deserve an answer? Hmmm... Let me think...
It probably will end way down in your deep well of ignorance and get
lost.
So, NO, you don't deserve an answer.
But - wait! You had an answer... Oh, whatever...
Voice over Internet Protocol is WAY different that "Voice chat services
through internet". Internet is NOT all IP, is also ATM, BB, and a
plethora of other protocols to let the data flow.
You can talk using two PCs through a direct modem connection on a leased
or dial-up line - using Voice enabled modems, but that AIN'T VoIP.
So stop muddling the water.
Ignorance is not an excuse, Wikipedia and Google are your best friends.
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