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Old 12-07-2006, 05:36 PM
John Emmons
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Default Re: Bicyclist killed by woman driver who was downloading cell phone ring tones

While using a cell phone and driving may not have been technically illegal,
driving recklessly is, if it results in someone's death that is what some
might call evidence of recklessness. The person who was killed wouldn't have
been if the driver had been paying attention to what she was supposed to be
doing, driving.

Next year it will be illegal to use anything but a handsfree cell phone in
California. I believe that New York state already has a law similiar to that
in place.

As for your claims about multitasking, bully for you. Driving while using a
cell phone is more dangerous than driving when not whether you can multitask
or not. Look it up next time you're shaving and eating breakfast at the same
time.

As for using a cell phone and causing an accident, I believe the person in
question killed someone, sounds like she needs to "take responsibility" for
her actions as you say.

I think the expression you were looking for is "per se".

No one is claiming or has claimed that the woman in question acted with
malice or with forethought but her irresponsibility caused the death of
another. She should have been tried for manslaughter and from the sound of
it, she should have been convicted.

Venting is great, when someone you love is killed thru the irresponsible,
preventable actions of another, feel free to vent to your heart's content.

Dragging gun laws into the debate is simply a red herring, if the person in
question had been say at a firing range, not paying attention to what she
was doing and "accidentally" shot someone, she would be tried for
manslaughter or even possibly murder in the 2nd degree, that is what she was
doing with her far more lethal weapons of choice, her car and her cell
phone.

John E.

"compubyte" <compubyte0417@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:AbSdnZbkPJ0TwerYnZ2dnUVZ_uGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> > doing something illegal and someone dies as a result, you deserve to go

to
> > jail.
> >

>
> Last I knew. driving and using a cell phone WASN't Illegal . .
>
> In a nutshell. IT WAS AN ACCIDENT. and to say people who drive and use a
> cell phone should be fined. well . BS .. I've been using a cell phone and
> driving since they first came out. ya know the BIG OLD phones in your car
> bag.. I haven't hit anyone yet. . OH WAIT.. I think it's because I CAN
> MULTITASK.. Now dumbass's that can't chew gum and walk at the same time.
> well Duhh Maybe they shouldn't be driving and talking on a cell phone.. I
> truely don't believe everyone should suffer because of a few idiots..

let's
> face it .. i see idiots on cell phones riding bikes. not paying attention.
> let's fine them to. and LORD KNOWS how many morons I've seen WALKING and
> talking on a cell phone. Just walking into traffic or crossing the side
> street not looking. Now were gonna fine anyone using a cell phone NOT
> sitting down .. . it's simple People.. YOU SCREW UP. TAKE RESPONSIBLITY..
> doesn't mean everyone else needs to suffer. It's no more simplier than
> that.
> Kinda like all those damn gun laws over 22,000 in the USA.. I mean come

on.
> 22,000 + . wouldnt 1 gun law work? YOU commit a crime with a gun. YOU get
> an AUTOMATIC GO TO JAIL for 20 years and NO more guns for you. Period!!
> Now using a cell phone and causing an accident is NOT a crime per say . I
> mean I saw people in here saying SHE should NOT be allowed to every drive
> again, she should not be allowed to use a cell phone ever again. WONDEFUL

if
> she INTENTIONALLY go into a car. and on her cell phone to RUN SOMEONE DOWN
> on purpose.. I realize all your folks throwing stones NEVER EVER caused

an
> accident doing something Careless .. and I wish the rest of us were as

good
> as you. But come. OK.. I'm done venting. after reading all those comments

I
> had to say something LOL
>
>
>




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