I am sick to death of this P.O.S. HP pavilion DV8310. For a month I have
been trying to deal with the trial-ware it comes with and the 135
trusted modules grabbing internet access....WTF does my keyboard driver
need internet access for?
I notice the trial version of Norton I-net suite disallows me to remove
the trusted pre-installed programs from HP! Essentials like MS-Explorer
and System...can be removed but not Scvhost called from elsewhere. It
appears to me that Norton has been engaged in hiding my user data export
to HP and points unknown.

SO I tried:
MSconfig and removing all the startup files. RESULT- can't play a DVD
but still get phonehomes.
Services.msc and removed as many sneaky non-essential services as i
could by trial and error. Even then there appear to be LSPs acting at
the kernal level that don;t even trigger Spybot teatimer that the
registry has been altered to reload the 'original configuration' and
allow datamining.....although it is more restricted in what can call
home to HP modules.
REmoving all registry entries ans software that are not critical for
usability but restrict phonehome...RESULTS..dismal! I am in over my head.
I purchased ZA 2007 int-suite and it is better but Norton is very very
sticky and conflicts at times by leaving hidden modules that the HP
config ini restores on me.

Did I say I am in over my head????? I am learning a lot about the
efforts HP and MS are going to to get my data for free and
surreptitiously but not making much headway in the blocking and
retaining usability fight. For EG: if I deny access to the
"quicklaunch" features i may be saving my privacy but can't play a
rented DVD and listen to it.
Win Media player10 is blocked from working if Sonic is active.

It started two years ago with a 7150 printer driver that was integrated
with phonehome 'no opt out' code. Tech supt finally conceded it was so
entrained it would not work without the phonehome module and offered my
money back saying "future printers would not have drivers integrated
with connectivity modules.....two years later and is far worse. Great
efforts have been made to make it harder to detect and remove.

There is a hidden HP directory with ini files that on inspection read
like " start c:\HP\bin\cloaker.exe c:customize PC ALL yadyada .bat and
so on.
I assume "cloaker.exe means "don;t expose the actions" no?

Given that HP spys on its own directors have I a hope in making a
machine i can connect to the internet and not broadcast the state of
every piece of software and every media file I ever connected remotely to?

Most firewalls and spyware utilities assume everything already loaded is
legit....and if teatimer is foiled this is happening at at lower level
than I can deal with directly right?

Miffed!