In article <mqr4q29e1nerfr026u0uq9su1abq7lk8d0@gordol.org>,
Jeffrey Kaplan <nomail@gordol.org> wrote:

> It is alleged that Kurt claimed:
>
> > Good, read my comments further.
>
> Ok...
>
> > BTW- why the upgrade? 680, from all the reviews, has shortcomings like
> > diminished battery life. Blazer's apparently a little quicker, but I
> > don't see the big deal - especially since you aren't on a data plan.
>
> The 650 has ~24MB of on-board storage and the 680 has 69MB. The 650
> has 8MB of dbcache and the 680 has 24M. I actually mostly like the new
> phone app on the 680. The 680 not only has better audio quality in the
> phone, it also gets better reception despite the lack of an external
> antenna (real-world testing, not just product blurbs). And a few other
> tweaks here and there, like the card slots no longer being exposed.
>
> Yes, the battery life is shorter, it is a smaller battery. But the
> "battery drain" issue mostly goes away within a week if you do some
> battery conditioning and leave BT and the data radios off except when
> needed. I'm now able to go at least a day and a half without draining
> the battery, and since I'm rarely more than an hour from a charger (one
> bedside, one deskside, and one in my car), I'm OK.
>
> > > Just because Cingular wants to sell you their unlimited PDA Connect for
> > > another $40/month doesn't mean that MediaNet doesn't work. It works
> > > just fine for me. It's just the name of a data service.
> >
> > Had my Treo for almost 2 years. Intially tried to set up MediaNet. This
> > was before I had any data plan. Wouldn't work. Was told from the get-go
> > that MediaNet would not work with Treo. They, on many occasions, have
> > told me that this is for cell phones only, not Treo. Spent a lot of time
> > with Cingular with this.
> > If you actually use it on your 650/680 - proof how screwed up Cingular
> > is with Treo support.
>
> When I got the 650 (June, '05) they tried to sell me a data plan. I
> think my top usage of data at that time was 50kB over a nine month
> period, so I declined the data plan. They +said+ that unless I got a
> data plan, I would not be able to use a data connection.
>
> A week later, I went to a different Cingular outlet and asked about it,
> without specifying what device I was using, and I was told "no
> problem", it would just be at the a la carte pricing of $0.01/kB, on
> the default MediaNet connection, if I wanted a higher-speed connection,
> I'd have to get a data plan for the higher speed.
>
> And... it works. The connection details were already programmed in,
> all I had to do was tell a data app to go online. Be it Blazer/Treo
> Web, Opera Mini, DirectoryAssistant, or whatever.
>
> When I upgraded to the 680 (unlocked, I figured I'd have to enter my
> call and network settings manually), I went to Call Preferences to
> enter the voicemail number and the Treo said it would query for this
> information for me, and it did. It also apparently got the data
> network settings either OTA at the same time or off of my SIM because
> those settings were there too, when I next went to the Network prefs
> panel.
>
> Now, my data usage is higher, but it's still less than the "cheaper to
> get a plan" threshold so I still use it a la carte.
>
> > Xpressmail would not work, and Cingular support said it was
> > compatibility issues with Treo.
>
> As I said before, I used it once, nearly two years ago now, and didn't
> like it. Maybe I just didn't like it, maybe it didn't work right.
> Upshot is that XPressMail should work since it's an app for the Palm,
> but has a crappy design. Since my 680 is an unlocked model, I don't
> even have it anymore, and my 650 has been mailed to Trade Ups for a
> rebate so I can't check back on the old device either.

Thanks for your experience. I have been doing the $20 5 MB data plan.
How much do you end up spending with Medianet. May get mine switched
over. Aren't they doing unlimited Medianet for $16?

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