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Old 01-24-2007, 07:36 AM
jonfklein@gmail.com
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Default Re: Need help connecting Samsung Blackjack to UMTS network overseas

Well, I guess that confirms it. The Blackjack won't operate on the UMTS
network where I am. By the way I am in Libya, the provider is Libyana.

What is really frustrating is that the provider operates their UMTS
network at a nominal frequency of 1900MHz, and the phone is advertised
as also capable of operating at a nominal frequency of 1900MHz. I had
checked this before I bought the phone. I don't think Samsung or
Cingular can expect the average consumer, like myself, to do anything
more then this.

But evidently even if the nominal operating frequency of the phone and
network match it doesn't mean the actual operating frequency of the
phone and network will match or overlap. **This is an obvious problem
for consumers.** How can the phone manufactures, service providers, and
the organization that defines the UMTS standard not have realized this.
It needs to be corrected.

-Jonathan



On Jan 23, 3:53 pm, "Sir_Dude" <jasper.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What Are The Supported Frequency Bands For My BlackJack (SGH-i607)?
>
> Network Capability
>
> * Transmit / Receive Range:
> o GSM 850 MHz: 824.2 MHz - 848.8 MHz
> o GSM 1900 MHz: 1850.2 MHz - 1909.8 MHz
> o WCDMA 850 MHz: 826.4 - 846.6 MHz
> o WCDMA 1900 MHz: 1852.4 - 1907.6 MHz
> o UMTS 2100 MHz: This device also contains 2100 mHz DCS
> functions that are not operational in U.S. Territories.
> o Bluetooth 2400 MHz: 2402.0 - 2480.0 MHz
>
> FAQ from Samsung.com
>
> Unfortunately its ASP, so there is no direct link to it...but if you go
> the FAQ section
>
> http://www.samsung.com/support/faq/faqs_index.asp
>
> Select cingular, then the BlackJack from the drop down menu, then in
> the FAQ listing, select "Network" and it will show you the available
> frequencies. This should be fairly standard for Samsung phones in
> their FAQ section.
>
>
>
> Todd Allcock wrote:
> > At 22 Jan 2007 22:58:25 -0800 jonfkl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Do you know where I can confirm this? For example is there some
> > > technical documentation or a web page that states the frequency bands
> > > that the phone operates at?

>
> > You can try phonescoop.com for the specs of most phones.

>
> > > It seems strange that the operating frequencies for UMTS would not be
> > > standardized world-wide

>
> > From the wikipedia entry on UMTS:

>
> > "In the United States, UMTS is currently offered by Cingular on 850MHz
> > and 1900MHz, due to the limitations of the spectrum available to them at
> > the time they launched UMTS service...

>
> > "Because of the frequencies used, early models of UMTS phones designated
> > for the US will likely not be operable overseas and vice versa..."

>
> > > and why would Cingular/Samsung make a phone
> > > that would only work in some countries and not others?

>
> > Cingular is a US-based carrier who sells US-centric phones.

>
> > > Why wouldn't
> > > they make a phone that covered all 1900 bands world wide?

>
> > Cost and complexity. It's only in the last few years we've seen phones
> > that had all four GSM voice bands. Previously it was more typical to see
> > different versions of the same phone adapted for the market it was sold in.

>
> > > So I'd like
> > > to look into this a bit more before I give up on the Blackjack
> > > altogether.

>
> > Good luck. When T-Mobile USA rolls out UMTS later this year, it will be
> > at different frequencies than Cingular- 1700 and 2100MHz, so T-Mo and
> > Cingular versions of the same phone won't even be interoperable for UTMS!

>
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