John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in
news:f492s2pip3ikqtjlofh448ec86nid7m8uu@4ax.com:


>
> I think that both speaks for itself and is sufficient. I know these
> people well, and am quite familiar with their issues.
>

Sorry- this is nothing more than secondhand anecdotal ramblings and does
not even meet your own well-documented standard for usenet 'authoritative
fact' (based on your own dismissal of the same kind of information- see
Google archives if you don't believe it).

Either practice what you preach or shut the hell up. Personally, I vote
for option #2.