Mark Stephens <no@way.com> wrote:

> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g4hd@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1hstf5v.1k6ecy8cq5p8eN%d4g4hd@yahoo.co.uk...
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> > You can get GPRS WAP (which is what would be cheapest here) in many
> > countries- maybe even most countries with GSM signals- but it does
> > depend on the roaming agreements with your phone company. It's been a
> > long time since I couldn't get a roaming GPRS signal, despite GPRS
> > existing in those particular countries. I couldn't get one in Slovenia a
> > few months ago for some reason, and I'm sure they have it there. Also,
> > GPRS roaming may not be available (or work well) on all carriers in that
> > country, so it's worth trying another if it doesn't work on the first
> > network you pick up.
> >
> > --
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> I went into Carphonewarehouse today and asked about this. Although polite,
> the staff had no idea what they were talking about. Firstly, said the
> cheapest PAYG phone would do ok, then changed his mind - had a word with his
> colleagues and they tried to sell me one for nearly £100 as I would "need it
> to do WAP".
>
> I declined and checked on the interweb when I returned home, to find the one
> I initially asked about would have done fine (a Motorola Razr).
>
> Anyway, I found an old Siemens I had from a while back and went online via
> the Orange PAYG sim I had forgotten about. Straight into Gmail. The only
> problem was that I can only enter numerical passwords for some reason.
> Changed my password via the main PC and Voila - I can access email on the
> phone.
>
> So, I can give my mum this old phone - total cost? £0! Yay!

Yes, it's a shame that the staff in these places are so incompetent! The
first phone I had that did GPRS wap was a T39, and I'm sure there were
models even older than that!

A silly question, but it is GPRS that you're using on the Siemens phone,
not dial-up WAP?

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