On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 01:46:42 GMT, Jeff Liebermann
<jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote in
<c855s25qm6euau9udtkl12tqquofigmu7m@4ax.com>:

>On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 21:49:11 GMT, John Navas
><spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>>True. Which is what I meant. Agent lost its way IMnsHO with its change
>>in basic architecture after version 1.93, which I still use, turning a
>>lean mean fighting machine into sluggish bugware. (FYI, I dutifully
>>reported some of those bugs, but failed to generate any real interest in
>>fixing them.)
>
>You might want to try again. The original writers of Forte Agent
>bought the company back from the clueless previous buyers and are
>again scribbling code.
><http://www.forteinc.com/main/who.php>

I know that. I'm talking about their new versions of Agent.

>I haven't seen much in the way of bugs lately. There have been 8
>releases since 1.92.
><http://www.forteinc.com/release/index.php>

My bugs still exist as of the last time I tested.
Likewise the sluggish performance.

>>My original point remains: Wrapping URLs in <>, while a good standards
>>compliant idea in general, _won't_ necessarily eliminate bad wrapping.
>
>Works for me in Forte 4.2. Also seems to work with Outlook and
>Outlook Express. However, Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 seems to word wrap.

The point is that framing in <>, while a good idea in general, is not
any sort of assurance that bad wrapping won't occur.

>>That it works for you is great, but it won't work for lots of others,
>>including me.
>
>All things come to he who upgrades.

Really?! Whatever happened to:


The effect is also self-perpetuating. Features get added faster than
bugs get fixed. It's a natural law or something. This effect
eventually results in a bloated monster ...


So, there we have the logic:
In order to sell upgrades, it has to be noticeably buggy.
In order to be sufficiently buggy, it has to be big and bloated.
In order to look like an improvement, it has to have new features.


Software tends to grow faster than the bugs can be fixed. Bloat is
in, quality is out. Eventually, reliability and scaleability will
suffer. Bigger is better or at least sells better.


Few users would upgrade to the latest version just for the new and
wonderful features that nobody really needs. They upgrade because
there's a small hope that the new and improved release will have
fewer bugs. This never really happens because features and functions
get added faster than bugs get fixed resulting in a bloated
application that's full of known bugs.


My conspiracy theory is that all software manufactories,
intentionally leave bugs unfixed, so that the customer has an
incentive to purchase upgrades and support. If the stuff actually
worked out of the box, people would simply use the last version
forever, and the software manufactory will go otto biz. Therefore,
bugs are permanent and a good thing.

On a similar note, if some company accidentally produces something
that actually works, an incentive to upgrade must be found.
Manufacturing groups, consortia, and industry committees, meet in the
inevitable smoke filled room, and conspire to introduce new
technology, new acronyms, and standards in copious quantities. Soon,
everything you own that actually works, is obsolete, incompatible, or
unsupported. This is called progress.

Since the sales of MS NT4 have shown that the customers are
unconcerned about reliability, stability, and performance, companies
are forced to sell their products on the basis of features and
support acronyms. Unfortunately, acronyms an features are added
faster than bugs get fixed, resulting in bloated, oversided, feature
infested, and buggy software. When the feature bloat grows to the
point of non-functionality, a totally new product is invented to fill
the product niche.


I've got a lean mean stable release with very few bugs. Tell me again
why I should upgrade? ;)

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