On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:41:45 -0500, The Ghost of General Lee
<ghost@general.lee> wrote:

>On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 03:38:37 GMT, "kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net"
><kevinkeithweaver1@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
>>> On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 17:37:25 -0800, "kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net"
>>> <kevinkeithweaver1@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why have this law when there is no one to enforce it ?
>>>> I have a un-listed number, on the do not call list, and get calls all
>>>> the time. Voice and fax calls. Faxes happen at early am hours. I called
>>>> SBC about it. They told me there is no way to get them to stop. All they
>>>> can do is change my number. Nice law.
>>>>
>>>> Just another law that someone made millions on.
>>>
>>> I think the law, while not perfect, is working pretty well. I have a
>>> primary and two secondary numbers, all unlisted. I maybe get 1 or 2
>>> questionable calls per year total through all three numbers. Plus,
>>> there's a wide variety of calls the law was never intended to address.
>>> The hangups and fax calls number among them. That's why I asked the
>>> OP (twice) what his state law says about harassment.
>>>
>>>> What about the spam law ? Same thing. Give us your email address. We
>>>> will make a data base of all these email address and then compile them
>>>> onto mega amounts of media. You then pay for this of course. But you
>>>> still get spam.
>>>
>>> The spam law is useless because most of the spam these days is
>>> generated outside the US, and thus, outside the jurisdiction of US
>>> courts. I knew when it passed it was an exercise in futility.
>>>
>>>> Or the best one yet. You get spam, At the bottom it tells you that if
>>>> you want off the list reply to the listed email below. Remove@xyz.com
>>>> They then have your good email address that they sell as a good working
>>>> email address.
>>>
>>> It's been widely known for years that the "remove me" links should
>>> *never* be used.
>>>
>>True, But the do not call list is a POS law. If your phone company cant
>>do anything about it other then change your number then what good is it.
>>
>>Years before this came out all one had to do was call the phone company
>>and get the same thing they offer now. So there is nothing great about
>>this law at all. No enforcement and they now it.
>>
>
>In all fairness, it was never intended for the phone companies to have
>a role in this matter. The FCC has a complaint process in place (you
>may rightfully argue its effectiveness), and you may be able to pursue
>civil remedies against the offender.
>
>From:
>http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/tcpa.html
>
>Actions You Can Take Against Telephone Solicitation Calls Made in
>Violation of the Rules
>
>You have recourse against entities or persons who continue to call you
>after you have requested to be placed on a "do not call" list.
>
>Some states permit you to file law suits against violators; you may be
>awarded $500 in damages or actual monetary loss, whichever is greater.
>This amount may be tripled if you are able to show that the caller
>willfully and knowingly violated do-not-call requirements.
>
>States themselves may initiate a civil suit in federal district court
>against any person or entity that engages in a pattern or practice of
>violations of the TCPA or FCC rules. If you have questions for your
>state regarding unsolicited telephone marketing calls, you may contact
>your local or state consumer protection office or your state Attorney
>General’s office. These numbers should be listed in the government
>section of your telephone directory, or you can obtain them by calling
>directory assistance.
>
>What the FCC Can Do to Help
>
>While the FCC may not award monetary or other damages, it can issue
>citations or impose fines against those violating the TCPA or other
>FCC rules regarding unsolicited telephone marketing calls.

Everyone needs to quit complaining and figure out a way to have
automatic dialers exempt the numbers on the Do Not Call list. If you
come up with it, please contact me. I'd like to share in the profits!!