On 11 Feb 2007 10:07:40 -0800, "Alan" <agarny@gmail.com> wrote in
<1171217260.662690.109820@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups .com>:

>> >> >It means that I cannot access my modem/router anymore and therefore
>> >> >cannot do anything that involves my network and, as a consequence, the
>> >> >internet (i.e. impossible to browse, receive email, etc.).
>>
>> >> Again, what _exactly_ does "cannot access" mean?
>>
>> >?!?!?!?!
>>
>> What's that supposed to mean? I can't help you if you don't provide the
>> information.
>
>I believe to have provided you with the information, but I am
>obviously wrong...

"?!?!?!?!" is information? Were you trying to be funny?

Again, what _exactly_ does "cannot access" mean? I can't read your mind
or see what's on your computer display. I need _exact_ symptoms.

>> >> What does the network icon look like and say?
>> >> What it should look like:http://i5.tinypic.com/40e4oea.png
>>
>> >I know how it should look like and it doesn't look like that at all.
>>
>> So what does it look like?
>
>Ok, I have googled around for a picture that looks like what I get:
>http://www.itap.purdue.edu/airlink/images/vpnpc1a.jpg

That helps a bit, but is just a start. Your wireless icon says "not
connected". What do you see in "view available wireless networks"?
What happens _exactly_ whey you select your wireless network (if you
can) and click Connect? If it tries for a time and then eventually
can't connect, have you turned off _all_ wireless security? To be sure,
reset the wireless router or access point to hardware defaults, and
start over without enabling any security. What happens with a wired
instead of wireless connection to either computer?

>> No. You're making things up and thrashing around. Calm down, answer my
>> questions, and I may be able to help you.
>
>The only question I hadn't properly answered is how the icon looks
>like.

On the contrary -- I've asked more than once "what _exactly_ does
'cannot access' mean?" It would help greatly if you took the time and
effort to _exactly_ describe what is happening, instead of just saying
"cannot access", which could be a great many different things. I'm not
interested in guessing / taking stabs in the dark.

>Otherwise, I am still of the view that there is an issue with the two
>ThinkPads. Maybe it's hardware, maybe it's software, or maybe it's a
>combination of the two (through their respective settings)?

I think that view is almost certainly wrong. One wireless client won't
kill another wireless client (assuming it didn't kill the wireless
router or access point).

>Anyway, I cannot test anything anymore, it would seem that my T42p's
>screen just died on me. It just went completely black for no apparent
>reason. If I restart my T42p, its screen may or not work and if it
>does, it will freeze after a while, while the rest of the system seems
>to boot up, etc. Having no external screen, I cannot determine for
>sure what the cause of the problem is.

That's very serious, might well be related to other problems, and should
be fixed first.

>Anyway #2, I do appreciate your help, but there indeed seems to be a
>problem of communication. Maybe we should just give up... not a good
>day for me it would seem...

Fair enough.

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