On 11 Feb 2007 14:27:18 -0800, "Alan" <agarny@gmail.com> wrote in
<1171232838.283279.298770@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups .com>:

>> Again, what _exactly_ does "cannot access" mean? I can't read your mind
>> or see what's on your computer display. I need _exact_ symptoms.
>
>If you were to tell me the kind of answer you are expecting from me,
>then maybe I could tell you exactly what is going on? In the same way
>you cannot read my mind, I surely cannot read yours.

Fair enough. Carefully note everything that is or isn't happening, step
by step, and report it fully here. See Mark's response for some of the
more obvious things you're leaving out.

>> >Ok, I have googled around for a picture that looks like what I get:
>> >http://www.itap.purdue.edu/airlink/images/vpnpc1a.jpg
>> That helps a bit, but is just a start. Yourwirelessicon says "not
>> connected". What do you see in "view availablewirelessnetworks"?

You also seem to have a problem with your newsreader deleting spaces
from quoted replies.

>Most ofthen than not, my modem/router won't show up.

Your "modem" won't ever show up.

Your router will show up if (a) it's broadcasting and (b) the wireless
client is working. If it doesn't show up, then you have one and/or the
other of those two problems.

>I have to stop it
>and restart it to see it listed again.

That suggests your router is failing.

>Other times, it will show up,
>but I won't be able to connect to it.

Different issue. Possible problems: interference, security gone wrong.

>Again, by stopping it and
>restarting it, it shows up and I will be able to connect to it.

Again, points to a router problem. You may want to try a different
router.

>But,
>as I have said several times, this will only be temporary if I have
>both ThinkPads running.

Not surprising -- routers can have problems triggered by different types
of loads. For example, many routers will fall over and die because of
the huge number of connections opened by default settings in
peer-to-peer filesharing apps.

>> What happens _exactly_ whey you select yourwirelessnetwork (if you
>> can) and click Connect? If it tries for a time and then eventually
>> can't connect, have you turned off _all_wirelesssecurity? To be sure,
>> reset thewirelessrouter or access point to hardware defaults, and
>> start over without enabling any security. What happens with a wired
>> instead ofwirelessconnection to either computer?
>
>I have done all those things before (see my very second message). The
>only thing I didn't mention (but did in the *other* thread I refer to
>in my first message in *this* thread) is that everything works fine
>when I use a wired connection. It is only when I try to connect
>wirelessly that things start playing up.

Sorry, but I'm _not_ going to chase down other threads. If you want my
help, post the information in _this_ thread.

>> >Otherwise, I am still of the view that there is an issue with the two
>> >ThinkPads. Maybe it's hardware, maybe it's software, or maybe it's a
>> >combination of the two (through their respective settings)?

>> I think that view is almost certainly wrong. Onewirelessclient won't
>> kill anotherwirelessclient (assuming it didn't kill thewireless
>> router or access point).
>
>I am only basing my 'conclusion' on what I am experiencing. ...

You are actually leaping to conclusions. What I wrote is far more
likely.

You would waste far less time if you just posted the requested
information, instead of arguing about it.

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