> Fair enough. Carefully note everything that is or isn't happening, step
> by step, and report it fully here. See Mark's response for some of the
> more obvious things you're leaving out.

Will do that once I get my T42p's screen to work again: cannot do
anything right now.

> >> >Ok, I have googled around for a picture that looks like what I get:
> >> >http://www.itap.purdue.edu/airlink/images/vpnpc1a.jpg
> >> That helps a bit, but is just a start. Yourwirelessicon says "not
> >> connected". What do you see in "view availablewirelessnetworks"?
> You also seem to have a problem with your newsreader deleting spaces
> from quoted replies.

Using Google to post my messages from my partner's old laptop, since
mine has been rendered useless (screen issue mentioned above).

> >Most ofthen than not, my modem/router won't show up.
> Your "modem" won't ever show up.

I know. My D-Link DSL-G624T is a modem/router, hence my referring to
it in that way.

> Your router will show up if (a) it's broadcasting and (b) thewireless
> client is working. If it doesn't show up, then you have one and/or the
> other of those two problems.
>
> >I have to stop it
> >and restart it to see it listed again.
>
> That suggests your router is failing.

Yes, I gathered that much, but what I don't understand is why it only
seems to be failing when I use both ThinkPads, but not when I use
either ThinkPad with my partner's old non-ThinkPad laptop?

> >Other times, it will show up,
> >but I won't be able to connect to it.
> Different issue. Possible problems: interference, security gone wrong.

I have tried all sorts of settings, including no security at all, but
to no avail.

> >Again, by stopping it and
> >restarting it, it shows up and I will be able to connect to it.
> Again, points to a router problem. You may want to try a different
> router.

I have only the aforementioned modem/router. Also, as mentioned
before, it works fine with in some cases, namely one ThinkPad at a
time.

> >But,
> >as I have said several times, this will only be temporary if I have
> >bothThinkPadsrunning.
> Not surprising -- routers can have problems triggered by different types
> of loads. For example, many routers will fall over and die because of
> the huge number of connections opened by default settings in
> peer-to-peer filesharing apps.

We are not using any P2P softwares. We merely want to browse the
internet and check emails, both of which should require very little
load. Also, we do lose the connection when running both ThinkPads
*and* doing *nothing*, i.e. we just switch the laptops on, log on,
wait and... after a couple of minutes or so, we lose our internet
connection.

> >I have done all those things before (see my very second message). The
> >only thing I didn't mention (but did in the *other* thread I refer to
> >in my first message in *this* thread) is that everything works fine
> >when I use a wired connection. It is only when I try to connect
> >wirelessly that things start playing up.
> Sorry, but I'm _not_ going to chase down other threads. If you want my
> help, post the information in _this_ thread.

Which I have just done...

> >> >Otherwise, I am still of the view that there is an issue with the two
> >> >ThinkPads. Maybe it's hardware, maybe it's software, or maybe it's a
> >> >combination of the two (through their respective settings)?
> >> I think that view is almost certainly wrong. Onewirelessclient won't
> >> kill anotherwirelessclient (assuming it didn't kill thewireless
> >> router or access point).
> >I am only basing my 'conclusion' on what I am experiencing. ...
> You are actually leaping to conclusions. What I wrote is far more
> likely.

Which is?

> You would waste far less time if you just posted the requested
> information, instead of arguing about it.

I believe to have done so to the best of my ability, which I accept
may not be sufficient...