<josh.higgs@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Gees you're rude vanguard, why don't you learn to read posts better?
I doubt you would want a reply as undetailed as your post. Read:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://users.tpg.com.au/bzyhjr/liszt.html
>>Learn to look more carefully at web pages.
>>From Original post:
> I have checked google for this and the amd/ati site with no results.
And it took me very little time even using guesses at navigation to find
the link to their MMC download. I wasn't about to exercise every
possible path through their software download matrix. Too many details
were missing. BTW, it's probably AIW *Rage* 128 Pro. There was no AIW
128 Pro model.
>>Yes, the link to MMC is
>>there but you will have to actually look.
> Yes I saw it, tried it and it didn't work. Hence the post.
Didn't work? Still unspecific. Did the download link not download a
file? Did the install program refuse to start? Did it start but abort
and, if so, what was the error? Did it install all the MMC software but
none of it would launch? Did those applications report some error when
they were started?
I know their download for MMC does work because that is what I used to
install it. But I have an OEM version of their video card and know that
not all the software that comes on the retail CD may not be available
via download. You pay more for the retail version for a reason,
sometimes which includes more software. You're saying that 85.3MB
download installs absolutely nothing?
Perhaps the TV software to which you refer really isn't part of their
Multimedia Software bundle but part of some other bundle included only
on the CD that is included with their *retail* version of their product.
When I installed their MMC download, it included a simple named "TV" app
that lets me record the video in. Maybe you're thinking of some other
TV app that only comes in the retail package (that you lost or tossed).
If I buy a retail version of a DVD recorder, it usually comes with
PowerDVD or some other app with encoder to watch movies; however, the
OEM version does not include the extra cost of including such software
(i.e., the cheaper price of the OEM version is because it doesn't have
all the retail version's software). If you lose the retail CD, you lose
the extra goodies that came in the retail version.
>>Pick a model
> >- Again you didn't bother to mention WHICH model you have
> See title of post
Doesn't help. Since the OS was never mentioned, I had to guess and
picked Windows XP. Could be you're using a Mac. Maybe under Windows 98
there would've been a specific selection for "AIW 128 Pro AGP". Under
Windows XP -> All-in-Wonder, the closest match was "AIW Radeon Series".
I didn't follow all the possible navigation paths for the missing
details.
>>Um, so what's wrong with the link to ATI Multimedia Software that is
>>right there on that page?
>>From Original Post:
> Apparently ATI now only supports the drivers only, not
> the MMC program that lets you view TV channels and record it etc.
MMC is *not* a driver, so the download link DOES give you the
applications that ATI freely distributes to any owner of their video
cards. It may NOT include *retail* specific programs because there is
no way for them to know if you bought it retail or got an OEM version of
their product which does NOT include all their software. Sounds like
you want some software, like TV-on-Demand and/or Gemstar GUIDE Plus+,
that is not included in the basic MMC download (because it is the base
version of MMC which even works for OEM versions of their product).
Without the retail CD, you have no proof [to their download programs]
that you have a retail version of their product, or their download
simply doesn't include the extras found on the retail CD. You might
give them a call to tell them that you have a sales receipt showing you
bought their retail version to ask if they will send you out a retail
version of their software CD but, if they have it, they will probably
charge a processing and shipping fee. However, by then you might as
well check eBay to get another AIW Rage 128 Pro video card for maybe
cheaper than ATI would charge you and which includes the retail CD, like
at
http://snipurl.com/1auh3 (it notes an OEM part number so be sure to
check if the CD is the retail version, and it's possible the OEM CD has
more software than available via the ATI downloads), or maybe
http://snipurl.com/1auhd.
I see you found some MMC download that you think provides what you want.
For the retail extras, like TV-on-demand or Guide Plus, they are
probably not included in that MMC download. I have had
Sapphire-produced ATI cards (retail) and ATI-produced cards (retail) and
know that some software on the ATI retail CD was not on the Sapphire
retail CD. So it is possible you are asking about a non-ATI brand ATI
video card, and maybe going to that vendor would find what you want.
It is also possible that the software is so old that ATI is no longer
permitted to bundle some other vendor's software (that gets branded with
"ATI") or they simply don't support it anymore. Distributing
unsupported software for commercial products guarantees support calls
where all they can tell the user is that they won't provide any support
for it. So they simply won't distribute it anymore. Don't expect a
vendor to distribute something they no longer support. Again, that
comes back to the retail CD that came with the product is just as much a
part of the product as is the hardware. Losing the CD means losing
programs that aren't supported and, as such, won't be distributed
anymore, either.
You might want to post over at alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati to see if
someone might send you an .iso image of their retail CD. I doubt ATI
would care about software so old and unsupported to use with with their
hardware that you own. Don't have them e-mail it, though, because it
could be too big for your mailbox but instead have them put it online
and give you a URL to it to download.
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