iPhone 4 - Apple Shatters Computing Once Again!

In article
<f3dd2fa7-7fa6-494f-95f9-1b152d433da1@y4g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>,
yanan sun <vzs623972@gmail.com> wrote:

> Best Blu-ray/DVD to iPhone 4 converter-Convert DVD to iPhone 4

spam. no need to buy this or anything else.

> Follow the steps below to get DVD movies on iPhone 4, instead of
> purchasing from iTunes. The DVD to iPhone 4 converter does not only
> convert DVD videos for you, but also remove the copy protection so
> that you can enjoy smooth video playback.

so it's in violation of the dmca, not to mention that copy protection
has nothing to do with smooth video playback.

nothing like a spammer that lies.

On 2010-07-05, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article
><f3dd2fa7-7fa6-494f-95f9-1b152d433da1@y4g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>,
> yanan sun <vzs623972@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Best Blu-ray/DVD to iPhone 4 converter-Convert DVD to iPhone 4
>
> spam. no need to buy this or anything else.

Indeed, Handbrake is free.

> so it's in violation of the dmca, not to mention that copy protection
> has nothing to do with smooth video playback.

DVDs generally don't have any copy protection.

On 2010-07-05, Jim Mason <jim.mason@removethisukonline.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <slrni339a1.av3.jon+usenet@snowy.squish.net>,
> jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk says...
>
>> DVDs generally don't have any copy protection.
>
> Bollocks.

Bollocks aren't a form of copy protection so far as I'm aware.
In fact, they're more about reproduction than the prevention of it.

Jon Ribbens wrote on [Mon, 5 Jul 2010 09:26:25 +0000 (UTC)]:
> On 2010-07-05, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> In article
>><f3dd2fa7-7fa6-494f-95f9-1b152d433da1@y4g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>,
>> yanan sun <vzs623972@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Best Blu-ray/DVD to iPhone 4 converter-Convert DVD to iPhone 4
>>
>> spam. no need to buy this or anything else.
>
> Indeed, Handbrake is free.
>
>> so it's in violation of the dmca, not to mention that copy protection
>> has nothing to do with smooth video playback.
>
> DVDs generally don't have any copy protection.

Yes they do. Most DVDs have CSS copy protection on them, as well
as macrovision.

Whether these protections are defeatable doesn't mean there isn't
any protection.

In message <slrni339a1.av3.jon+usenet@snowy.squish.net> Jon Ribbens
<jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> was claimed to have wrote:

>DVDs generally don't have any copy protection.

If we're talking about movies, this is the opposite of the truth.
Software distributed on DVD normally doesn't have any copy protection
though.

http://www.dvdsmith.com/dvd-copy-protection-types.html lists all the
types in use today.

On 2010-07-05, Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
> Yes they do. Most DVDs have CSS copy protection on them, as well
> as macrovision.

CSS just means you can't play it out of region, as I understand it if
you simply byte-for-byte copy the DVD the copy will work fine.

Jon Ribbens wrote on [Mon, 5 Jul 2010 16:16:55 +0000 (UTC)]:
> On 2010-07-05, Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
>> Yes they do. Most DVDs have CSS copy protection on them, as well
>> as macrovision.
>
> CSS just means you can't play it out of region, as I understand it if
> you simply byte-for-byte copy the DVD the copy will work fine.

No, it doesn't, CSS is copy protection called Content Scramble System
and was meant to protect DVD copying. Region coding is to stop you
playing it out of region. RCE was also designed to stop playing it out
of region.

On 2010-07-05, Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
> Jon Ribbens wrote on [Mon, 5 Jul 2010 16:16:55 +0000 (UTC)]:
>> On 2010-07-05, Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
>>> Yes they do. Most DVDs have CSS copy protection on them, as well
>>> as macrovision.
>>
>> CSS just means you can't play it out of region, as I understand it if
>> you simply byte-for-byte copy the DVD the copy will work fine.
>
> No, it doesn't, CSS is copy protection called Content Scramble System
> and was meant to protect DVD copying.

What is the "no, it doesn't" in response to? Are you saying that
a byte-for-byte copy of a DVD won't work? If so, why won't it work?

> Region coding is to stop you playing it out of region.

Indeed, meaning that the only way I can play some of my legitimate,
purchased DVDs is to copy them to remove the region coding! But CSS
is a necessary part of region coding.

Jon Ribbens wrote on [Mon, 5 Jul 2010 16:45:12 +0000 (UTC)]:
> On 2010-07-05, Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
>> Jon Ribbens wrote on [Mon, 5 Jul 2010 16:16:55 +0000 (UTC)]:
>>> On 2010-07-05, Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
>>>> Yes they do. Most DVDs have CSS copy protection on them, as well
>>>> as macrovision.
>>>
>>> CSS just means you can't play it out of region, as I understand it if
>>> you simply byte-for-byte copy the DVD the copy will work fine.
>>
>> No, it doesn't, CSS is copy protection called Content Scramble System
>> and was meant to protect DVD copying.
>
> What is the "no, it doesn't" in response to? Are you saying that
> a byte-for-byte copy of a DVD won't work? If so, why won't it work?

Whether a bye for byte copy works is irrelevant, you claimed most
DVDs don't have copy protection and they do.

CSS does not mean you can't play it out of region, region coding does.

>> Region coding is to stop you playing it out of region.
>
> Indeed, meaning that the only way I can play some of my legitimate,
> purchased DVDs is to copy them to remove the region coding! But CSS
> is a necessary part of region coding.

Is there a point?

It's easy to defeat region coding without messing with CSS, I have several
DVD players that play copy protected DVDs from any region I want. They
don't remove CSS, I just set the region code to either 0 or whatever
region the disc is mastered for.

On 2010-07-05, Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
>> What is the "no, it doesn't" in response to? Are you saying that
>> a byte-for-byte copy of a DVD won't work? If so, why won't it work?
>
> Whether a bye for byte copy works is irrelevant, you claimed most
> DVDs don't have copy protection and they do.

I'm not sure how you can call it "copy protection" when it doesn't
interfere with copying. I can just copy the disk as if CSS didn't even
exist. What CSS does is (attempt to) control how you can play the
disk, not whether you can copy the disk.

> CSS does not mean you can't play it out of region, region coding does.

Region encoding relies on CSS.

> It's easy to defeat region coding without messing with CSS, I have several
> DVD players that play copy protected DVDs from any region I want. They
> don't remove CSS, I just set the region code to either 0 or whatever
> region the disc is mastered for.

That's what CSS was trying to prevent you having the option of.

On Jul 5, 5:26*am, Jon Ribbens <jon+use...@unequivocal.co.uk> wrote:
> On 2010-07-05, nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
> > In article
> ><f3dd2fa7-7fa6-494f-95f9-1b152d433...@y4g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>,
> > yanan sun <vzs623...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Best Blu-ray/DVD to iPhone 4 converter-Convert DVD to iPhone 4
>
> > spam. no need to buy this or anything else.
>
> Indeed, Handbrake is free.
>
> > so it's in violation of the dmca, not to mention that copy protection
> > has nothing to do with smooth video playback.
>
> DVDs generally don't have any copy protection.

So what do you think CSS is?

Jon Ribbens wrote on [Mon, 5 Jul 2010 17:06:27 +0000 (UTC)]:
> On 2010-07-05, Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
>>> What is the "no, it doesn't" in response to? Are you saying that
>>> a byte-for-byte copy of a DVD won't work? If so, why won't it work?
>>
>> Whether a bye for byte copy works is irrelevant, you claimed most
>> DVDs don't have copy protection and they do.
>
> I'm not sure how you can call it "copy protection" when it doesn't
> interfere with copying. I can just copy the disk as if CSS didn't even
> exist. What CSS does is (attempt to) control how you can play the
> disk, not whether you can copy the disk.

The copy protection was broken, obviously. CSS was also supposed to stop
from byte for byte copying.

>> CSS does not mean you can't play it out of region, region coding does.
>
> Region encoding relies on CSS.

No, it doesn't. The two are often on the same disc but neither is required.


>
>> It's easy to defeat region coding without messing with CSS, I have several
>> DVD players that play copy protected DVDs from any region I want. They
>> don't remove CSS, I just set the region code to either 0 or whatever
>> region the disc is mastered for.
>
> That's what CSS was trying to prevent you having the option of.

On 2010-07-05, Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
> The copy protection was broken, obviously. CSS was also supposed to stop
> from byte for byte copying.

I asked you how it was supposed to do that, but you haven't answered.

>>> CSS does not mean you can't play it out of region, region coding does.
>>
>> Region encoding relies on CSS.
>
> No, it doesn't. The two are often on the same disc but neither is required.

Yes, it does. Without CSS, the DVD Consortium would have had no way of
requiring that people making DVD players actually implement the region
coding, and also you could just copy the DVD while setting the region
code on the disk to zero.

Jon Ribbens wrote on [Mon, 5 Jul 2010 17:46:53 +0000 (UTC)]:
> On 2010-07-05, Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
>> The copy protection was broken, obviously. CSS was also supposed to stop
>> from byte for byte copying.
>
> I asked you how it was supposed to do that, but you haven't answered.
>
>>>> CSS does not mean you can't play it out of region, region coding does.
>>>
>>> Region encoding relies on CSS.
>>
>> No, it doesn't. The two are often on the same disc but neither is required.
>
> Yes, it does. Without CSS, the DVD Consortium would have had no way of
> requiring that people making DVD players actually implement the region
> coding, and also you could just copy the DVD while setting the region
> code on the disk to zero.

That's not a technical reason.

On 2010-07-05, Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
> Jon Ribbens wrote on [Mon, 5 Jul 2010 17:46:53 +0000 (UTC)]:
>> Yes, it does. Without CSS, the DVD Consortium would have had no way of
>> requiring that people making DVD players actually implement the region
>> coding, and also you could just copy the DVD while setting the region
>> code on the disk to zero.
>
> That's not a technical reason.

Oh, I'm sorry if reality intrudes on your fancy theory ;-)

Jon Ribbens wrote on [Mon, 5 Jul 2010 18:20:16 +0000 (UTC)]:
> On 2010-07-05, Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
>> Jon Ribbens wrote on [Mon, 5 Jul 2010 17:46:53 +0000 (UTC)]:
>>> Yes, it does. Without CSS, the DVD Consortium would have had no way of
>>> requiring that people making DVD players actually implement the region
>>> coding, and also you could just copy the DVD while setting the region
>>> code on the disk to zero.
>>
>> That's not a technical reason.
>
> Oh, I'm sorry if reality intrudes on your fancy theory ;-)

Copy protection is there, it was broken years ago. Whether it works or not
doesn't matter.

Very little copy protection actually protects from copying, but it's there

In article <slrni341bn.c60.jon+usenet@snowy.squish.net>,
Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> wrote:

> On 2010-07-05, Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
> > Yes they do. Most DVDs have CSS copy protection on them, as well
> > as macrovision.
>
> CSS just means you can't play it out of region, as I understand it if
> you simply byte-for-byte copy the DVD the copy will work fine.

If you could make one. But that's the catch. You can't. CSS decryption
keys are written in the lead-in section of the disc, rather than as
normal track data. A CSS-compliant drive (essentially any drive
available to the public) won't provide those keys to the OS until it
authenticates with a properly licensed DVD playback application. And
AFAIK normal DVD drives also won't _write_ CSS keys to a disc lead-in,
which is why you can't burn your own CSS-protected DVDs.

The upshot is that byte-for-byte copying of a DVD is impossible without,
at the very least, hacking DVD drive firmware. To copy discs on
unmodified consumer hardware, it's necessary to remove the encryption.

--
"The game of professional investment is intolerably boring and over-exacting to
anyone who is entirely exempt from the gambling instinct; whilst he who has it
must pay to this propensity the appropriate toll." -- John Maynard Keynes

Aunsoft iPhone 4 Blu-ray Conversion-Rip/Convert Blu-Ray Movie to
iPhone 4

How to rip Blu-Ray discs to iPhone 4 for watching? How to enjoy Blu-
Ray movies on iPhone 4 with gorgeous 1280-by-720 resolution in a 3.5-
inch screen? I suggest you to use a very great and easy program -
Aunsoft Blu-Ray to iPhone 4 Converter, which can help you to convert
all commercial Blu-Ray movie to iPhone 4 without losing quality. And
the output format you could select are: iPhone 4 MPEG-4 640×480
(*.MP4), iPhone 4 H.264 720P (*.MP4).

Best way for converting Blu-ray to iPhone 4 MP4.

(1) What you need:
Blu-Ray Reader (like Blu-Ray Rom), Blu-Ray disc, PC, Aunsoft Blu-Ray
Ripper, iTunes
Aunsoft Blu-ray to iPhone 4 Converter is a powerful program which can
help to decrypt all Blu-Rays or DVDs and then make a backup and
convert Blu-ray or DVD movies to iPhone 4, iPad, Android Phones, iPod
Touch, Xbox 360, etc for playing with high quality. And this Blu-Ray
to iPhone 4 Converter could edit Blu-Ray movies, extract audio/music
from Blu-Ray disc, trim Blu-ray segments, and so on.

Free download now: Aunsoft iPhone 4 Blu-ray conversion

(2) Step-by-step guide: How to convert Blu-Ray to iPhone 4.

Step 1: Launch the program.
Start Aunsoft Blu-Ray to iPhone 4 Converter, click “Add” button to
import your Blu-Ray folder in the main interface. You could preview
the movies with high quality in its inserted player.

Step 2: Select the output iPhone 4 MP4 format and choose the
destination folder.
Click the drop down icon of “Format” to select iPhone 4 MPEG-4 640×480
(*.MP4) or iPhone 4 H.264 720P (*.MP4) as output format. Select the
output folder by directly clicking Folder button beside Output. After
these settings, you can check the box of “Merge into one file”, and
then all the Blu-Ray movie chapters could be converted into only one
iPhone 4 MP4 file.

Tip: Click "Settings" to open the “Profile” interface to make detail
settings for output audio and video, such as audio and video codec,
quality, bit rate, video frame rate, video size, audio sample rate to
perfect matching with iPhone 4.

Step 3: Start the Blu-Ray to iPhone 4 conversion
Finally, click "Convert" in the File menu. After a successful
conversion, you could get the converted iPhone 4 MP4 files.

(3) How to put and transfer movies to iPhone 4:
You can click "Open" button in main interface of this program after
the conversion's done. Then find the converted file in the destination
folder and put it to your iTunes. And then sync the MP4 files to
iPhone 4 is not a problem. Now the mission of transferring Blu-Ray
movies to iPhone 4 is completed. If you want to know the solutions
about HD video to iPhone 4, or WMV to iPhone 4, go to the iPhone 4
(http://www.aunsoft.com/iphone4/) specials.

http://www.aunsoft.com/blu-ray-ripper/

Your Sincerely

sunyanan