iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine

Peter Hayes wrote:
> Oxford <colalovesmacs@smart.com> wrote:
>
>> notinuse2@btinternet.com (Peter Hayes) wrote:
>>
>>>> not sure what you mean. only groups affected by the iPhone were included.
>>> Incorrect.
>>>
>>> You included comp.sys.mac.advocacy which has no relevence to the iPhone
>>> whatsoever.
>> ah, it runs OSX so there is a strong connection.
>
> No, it's like spamming performance vehicle newsgroups with posts about
> the Ford Transit just because they both run on petrol.
>

So spam the Mac group.

In news:colalovesmacs-90154C.21021602112007@mpls-nnrp-06.inet.qwest.net,
Oxford <colalovesmacs@smart.com> typed:
> "Joel Koltner" <JKolstad71HatesSpam@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> nobody has done an ipod in a cell phone before.
>>
>> Now that's just silly. Sure, manybe not packaged witih the phone
>> itself, but Palm and Windows and probably even Symbian phones have long
>> had *many* iPod-like media players to choose from.
>
> ipod "like" but not an ipod, so that's a huge difference for the user.


Only to those who think "if it don't say Apple, in can't by any good". lol

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> Let's see, you've spent the last few months sending out massive waves of
> non-topical information to a wide variety of newsgroups.
>
> How is it, then, that you're not spamming? Tell us more.

Actually please don't tell us more, we have had enough of this clowns SPAM.


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"Ness Net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:

> The iPhone drivel isn't wanted in a Verizon newsgroup.
>
> YOU and your sock puppet nom de jours post in this
> and the other non-Apple newsgroups to primarily TROLL.
>
> We don't want it - kindly fuck off.

You don't seem rational on this topic or about your future.

You need to LEARN about Apple's iPhone in every way you can! there is no
other choice at this point. Look at what happened to every other Music
Player, Apple is going to DO THE SAME thing to the Cell Industry.

So complain or accept, those are your 2 choices.

Fortune has a great article today of what is going to happen throughout
the World:

Great READING!

---

According to Key, it started with an early morning call on a wet
Saturday morning from his boss, Peter Erskine.

² ŒWe¹ve had a call from Apple,¹ said Peter. ŒThey want us to be in
Cupertino in California on Tuesday¹.² Key, who runs the UK¹s largest
mobile network operator, boasting 18m customers, didn¹t have to ask why.

Key showed up at Apple headquarters that Tuesday morning with two
executives from Telefonica, O2¹s Spanish owner. They were ushered into
Jobs¹ office. He was wearing his trademark jeans, black top, and
trainers.

²He¹s a hugely impressive guy, hugely impressive guy,² beams Key,
remembering his first encounter with the legendary Apple founder. ²He
clearly knows his stuff in a level of detail that for someone at that
level is mindblowing, and he has a great incisiveness in terms of what
the customer wants and needs in products.²

Jobs and his henchmen wanted a single network partner but still
didn¹t know how they were going to launch the iPhone in the UK; unlike
Key, once Jobs had shown him the device.

²I played with it for two minutes and just thought, Œoh my God, this
is leagues above anything I¹ve ever seen before¹,² he gushes (to be
fair, so do most people who¹ve seen the device). ²If you see the photo
functionality, watch videos on it on YouTube, or the weather, or just
see the threading on the texting, or the visual voicemail.²

Apple¹s representatives hammered out the deal with Key¹s team in Slough
the following Saturday ²over Marks & Spencer¹s sandwiches.² Key disputes
as ³rubbish² reports that O2 struck what one competitor called a ³madly
money-losing deal,² signing over to Cupertino as much as 40% of monthly
revenues. ³²It¹s sour grapes,² he said. ³We don¹t sign bad deals.² He
did not offer any contract details, but said he was confident O2 would
make money over the life of the contract, during which he expects 3/4 of
British iPhone customers to come from rival networks.

http://snipurl.com/1t3ms

-

Everyone in the CELL industry needs to LEARN everything is now DIFFERENT.

APPLE CONTROLS the Cell market now, so learn how they operate or go
under.

Nokia is now a weak pawn in Apple's game, so are all other vendors.

Nobody can compete against Apple in the cell game, they simply don't
have the MASSIVE experience in the phone market that Apple has. Apple
STARTED over 30 years ago with "phones". FREE PHONE CALLS THROUGHOUT the
WORLD. Plus they have the most experience in building small devices,
Nokia and others don't have that skill.

Trust me...... SELL all non Apple Cell Stocks...

You have been warned!

-

Bill Gates wrote:
> "Ness Net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:
>
>> The iPhone drivel isn't wanted in a Verizon newsgroup.
>>
>> YOU and your sock puppet nom de jours post in this
>> and the other non-Apple newsgroups to primarily TROLL.
>>
>> We don't want it - kindly fuck off.
>
> You don't seem rational on this topic or about your future.
>
> You need to LEARN about Apple's iPhone in every way you can! there is no
> other choice at this point. Look at what happened to every other Music
> Player, Apple is going to DO THE SAME thing to the Cell Industry.
>
> So complain or accept, those are your 2 choices.
>
> Fortune has a great article today of what is going to happen throughout
> the World:
>
> Great READING!
>
> ---
>
> According to Key, it started with an early morning call on a wet
> Saturday morning from his boss, Peter Erskine.
>
> ² ŒWe¹ve had a call from Apple,¹ said Peter. ŒThey want us to be in
> Cupertino in California on Tuesday¹.² Key, who runs the UK¹s largest
> mobile network operator, boasting 18m customers, didn¹t have to ask why.
>
> Key showed up at Apple headquarters that Tuesday morning with two
> executives from Telefonica, O2¹s Spanish owner. They were ushered into
> Jobs¹ office. He was wearing his trademark jeans, black top, and
> trainers.
>
> ²He¹s a hugely impressive guy, hugely impressive guy,² beams Key,
> remembering his first encounter with the legendary Apple founder. ²He
> clearly knows his stuff in a level of detail that for someone at that
> level is mindblowing, and he has a great incisiveness in terms of what
> the customer wants and needs in products.²
>
> Jobs and his henchmen wanted a single network partner but still
> didn¹t know how they were going to launch the iPhone in the UK; unlike
> Key, once Jobs had shown him the device.
>
> ²I played with it for two minutes and just thought, Œoh my God, this
> is leagues above anything I¹ve ever seen before¹,² he gushes (to be
> fair, so do most people who¹ve seen the device). ²If you see the photo
> functionality, watch videos on it on YouTube, or the weather, or just
> see the threading on the texting, or the visual voicemail.²
>
> Apple¹s representatives hammered out the deal with Key¹s team in Slough
> the following Saturday ²over Marks & Spencer¹s sandwiches.² Key disputes
> as ³rubbish² reports that O2 struck what one competitor called a ³madly
> money-losing deal,² signing over to Cupertino as much as 40% of monthly
> revenues. ³²It¹s sour grapes,² he said. ³We don¹t sign bad deals.² He
> did not offer any contract details, but said he was confident O2 would
> make money over the life of the contract, during which he expects 3/4 of
> British iPhone customers to come from rival networks.
>
> http://snipurl.com/1t3ms
>
> -
>
> Everyone in the CELL industry needs to LEARN everything is now DIFFERENT.
>
> APPLE CONTROLS the Cell market now, so learn how they operate or go
> under.
>
> Nokia is now a weak pawn in Apple's game, so are all other vendors.
>
> Nobody can compete against Apple in the cell game, they simply don't
> have the MASSIVE experience in the phone market that Apple has. Apple
> STARTED over 30 years ago with "phones". FREE PHONE CALLS THROUGHOUT the
> WORLD. Plus they have the most experience in building small devices,
> Nokia and others don't have that skill.
>
> Trust me...... SELL all non Apple Cell Stocks...
>
> You have been warned!
>
> -

Keep it *out* of a Verizon group then.

Mark Crispin <MRC@Panda.COM> wrote:

> > You included comp.sys.mac.advocacy which has no relevence to the iPhone
> > whatsoever.
>
> As comp.sys.mac.advocacy is the hangout of the Apple fanboys, it is
> precisely the correct place where debunking of Apple fanboy propaganda
> needs to take place.
>
> If you don't like it, then keep your fanboy sewage off the Verizon, Nokia,
> T-Mobile, and Sprint PCS newsgroups.

well, i think you mean CSMA is the hangout of the most intelligent
people involved with computing. The geniuses there far outweigh most any
other group on USENET. It's kinda like the Apple Genius Bar with color.

Yes, I do understand that you might not want to measure up to that
level, but what they have to say is important. And spells the future of
all other technical groups within the USENET hierarchy.

Bill Gates wrote:

>
> Trust me...... SELL all non Apple Cell Stocks...
>


Why sell when you can naked short.

Gut check time, Billy Boy....

none wrote:
>
> mark, you make everyone laugh with ignorance like that, Apple certainly
> did create the first PDA, they even coined the term!

I suggest you look before 1993 when Newtown came out.

PSION came out with its EPOC/SIBO PDAs before that. And before that, we
had many different "glorified calculators" that acted as PDA such as the
Casio BOSS.


Suggest you look into:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psion

Its first PDA was in 1984, 9 years before the Newtown. The EPOC based
ones came out before 1991 (the MC series, but I don't have a date). 1991
saw the introduction of the Series 3 PDA (2 years prior to newtown) with
not only all the PDA functions but also networking with computers,
ability to install new applications and a fully pre emptive multitasking
system with interprocess communications. (EPOC on the 16 bit processors
(80286 equivalents).


Sculley claiming he invented PDA is just as credible as those who say Al
Gore invented the internet. I don't wish to diminish the Newtown which
was a great leap forwards in software/hardware.


> in other words, Nokia doesn't have Core Graphics / Core Animation so
> they are kinda stuck in the 90's compared to the iPhone / OSX.

Ironic that Nokia is based on Symbian which is the 32 bit version of
EPOC that PSION rewrote from scratch before throwing in the towel and
donating EPOC to the consortium that bought it (forming Symbian).

There were many things very wrong with the first versions of EPOC 32 as
released by PSION on its Series 5 PDA, but they were things that mobile
manufacturers liked: PROPRIETARY EVERYTHING.

It took a very long time for Nokia to start to do anything with Symbian
OS because it realised it needed a lot of work to make it useful in an
open world (like supporting standard image file formats) and of course,
it needed to rewrite the UI portion of EPOC to fit mobile phones (which
PSION had cleverly split from the kernel to allow just that).


Not sure if Nokia still uses the epoc proprietary networking protocol.
The protocol itself, first used on the Series 3 was full function,
similar to DECNET. From a PC you could start tasks on the PDA and vice
versa. On the PDA, you could not only get file lists from the PC, but
you could use PSION apps to just open those files as if they were local
(and save them as if they were local). For the 32 bit EPOC' (aka:
Symbian OS) only part of the protocol was implemented, and it was no
longer peer to peer, there was a master and slave, and no ability to
start tasks etc. The PDA could no longer access files on the remote
machine, not interface with another PDA directly.

The networking protocol, was first implemented well before the Newton
and was very much more advanced than any other PDA around.

dafydd wrote:
> Actually considering that you posted this in newsgroups that have
> nothing to do with apple, or att wireless I am thinking that it is
> indeed spam.

While it may be true on the face of it, it is also important to everyone
to know what is happening to iphone because this will impact other
networks and other phone manufacturers.

iphone is a huge marketing project that could reshape the mobile
industry depending on how Apple behaves as it sets new precedents (such
as revenu sharing).

JF Mezei wrote:

> iphone is a huge marketing project that could reshape the mobile
> industry depending on how Apple behaves as it sets new precedents (such
> as revenue sharing)...

...and encouraging serial fanboi spammers like Oxford et al.

"Bill Gates" <im@IEdiedtoday.com> wrote in message
news:im-955C61.15080103112007@mpls-nnrp-02.inet.qwest.net...
>
> You don't seem rational on this topic or about your future.
>
> You need to LEARN about Apple's iPhone in every way you can! there is no
> other choice at this point. Look at what happened to every other Music
> Player, Apple is going to DO THE SAME thing to the Cell Industry.
>
> So complain or accept, those are your 2 choices.
>

Au contraire, I'm completely rational.
Just irritated that I have to continue to endure your wacky fanboy
fantasies.
The fact that you consider your inane drivel rational, is the real joke
here.

My CHOICE is to wonder why you see the need to use sock puppets.
And make yourself look foolish - (more so than you have already)

My CHOICE is to KNOW, beyond ANY doubt that you are a troll, a moron
and that you suffer from delusions of some kind. Thinking you know all
when in fact it has been demonstrated, time and time again - you know
zip, nada, zilch.

Oh, BTW, your infallible Apple - ISN'T - Leopard Has More Holes than Spots

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895...LBOE110307STR1

Leopard's firewall is a mess, say researchers, shutting off by default and
allowing connections even under "block all."

Security has slipped backwards on the evolutionary ladder in Apple's latest
Mac OS X release, security researchers say, with Leopard's firewall having
more holes than its namesake cat has spots.

"The short answer is the Leopard firewall is ... ugly and a step backwards
from 10.4," said Rich Mogull, an independent security consultant .

"Mark Thompson" <markt@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:markt-2D4EB1.15303403112007@mpls-nnrp-03.inet.qwest.net...
>
> well, i think you mean CSMA is the hangout of the most intelligent
> people involved with computing. The geniuses there far outweigh most any
> other group on USENET. It's kinda like the Apple Genius Bar with color.
>
> Yes, I do understand that you might not want to measure up to that
> level, but what they have to say is important. And spells the future of
> all other technical groups within the USENET hierarchy.

Oxford - Stick to one name - you moron.
This sock puppet shit is indicative of what an ass you continue to be.

I have no idea why you do it, but it really makes you worse than you already
do.

Not quite as much as the actual content of your fanatical fanboy fantasies.

But certainly the sock puppets - along with the completely wacky shit you
post
show all who have to endure it - that you have a very tenuous grip on
reality.

There are meds that can probably treat your disorder.... get help.

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

> > Fortune has a great article today of what is going to happen throughout
> > the World:
> >
> > Great READING!
>
> So it's been established that you CAN read.
>
> So, Oxford: who is Adele Goldberg, and what crucial role did she play
> in Steve Jobs's world?

The mystery of that question is clearly in your court. Nobody has come
up with any "crucial" contribution she has made to Apple/SJ.

So it's fully up to you to share your "secret" or forever play the fool.

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

> Let's see, you've spent the last few months sending out massive waves of
> non-topical information to a wide variety of newsgroups.
>
> How is it, then, that you're not spamming? Tell us more.

So, Elmo... who is Adele Goldberg, and what crucial role did she play
in Steve Jobs's world?

For some reason you can't come up with an answer. Everyone will be
laughing at you until you do.

--

JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> > mark, you make everyone laugh with ignorance like that, Apple certainly
> > did create the first PDA, they even coined the term!
>
> I suggest you look before 1993 when Newtown came out.
>
> PSION came out with its EPOC/SIBO PDAs before that. And before that, we
> had many different "glorified calculators" that acted as PDA such as the
> Casio BOSS.

how could they come out with a PDA before the acronym was coined by
Apple? They didn't. Sure there were other devices, just like there were
other MP3 players, computers, before Apple "set the standard" everyone
users today. The iPhone is no different. Everything has to match up to
those high goals are they aren't considered quality products by the
public or the reviewers.

Thus no PDA could have happened before the first "PDA" was created.
Apple / CEO John Sculley clearly created that word/term/acronym. Look it
up.

> Suggest you look into:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psion
>
> Its first PDA was in 1984, 9 years before the Newtown. The EPOC based
> ones came out before 1991 (the MC series, but I don't have a date). 1991
> saw the introduction of the Series 3 PDA (2 years prior to newtown) with
> not only all the PDA functions but also networking with computers,
> ability to install new applications and a fully pre emptive multitasking
> system with interprocess communications. (EPOC on the 16 bit processors
> (80286 equivalents).

But it wasn't a PDA, the term wasn't used or created until August 3, 1993

> Sculley claiming he invented PDA is just as credible as those who say Al
> Gore invented the internet. I don't wish to diminish the Newtown which
> was a great leap forwards in software/hardware.

Yes, but Facts are Facts... you can't change them now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_N...in_development

---

the truth hurts sometime

The term "personal data assistant" was first used on January 7, 1992 by
Apple Computer CEO John Sculley at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las
Vegas, Nevada, referring to the Apple Newton. PDAs are sometimes
referred to as "Palms", "Palm Pilot" or "Palm Tops"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persona...istant#History

"Ness Net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:

> > Yes, I do understand that you might not want to measure up to that
> > level, but what they have to say is important. And spells the future of
> > all other technical groups within the USENET hierarchy.
>
> Oxford - Stick to one name - you moron.
> This sock puppet shit is indicative of what an ass you continue to be.

I never use sock puppets, i only use Pen Names, get used to it.

> I have no idea why you do it, but it really makes you worse than you already
> do.

Why? Pay attention to the valuable content I offer, ignore the Pen Name
since that matters the least within the packet of info provided.

> Not quite as much as the actual content of your fanatical fanboy fantasies.
>
> But certainly the sock puppets - along with the completely wacky shit you
> post
> show all who have to endure it - that you have a very tenuous grip on
> reality.
>
> There are meds that can probably treat your disorder.... get help.

Meds? I'm quite rational and post topical information. Try it sometime.

none wrote:
> the truth hurts sometime
>
> The term "personal data assistant" was first used on January 7, 1992 by
> Apple Computer CEO John Sculley at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las
> Vegas,
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persona...istant#History


First, wikipedia is interesting, but it is not an authoritative bible
when it comes to facts. Sometimes it takes time for the facts to be
straightened out.

And even if Sculley was the first to use the acronym, it doesn't mean
that the Newton was the first device for which the term PDA could be
applied.

Before that, the term "Pocket Organiser" was often used.

JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> none wrote:
> > the truth hurts sometime
> >
> > The term "personal data assistant" was first used on January 7, 1992 by
> > Apple Computer CEO John Sculley at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las
> > Vegas,
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persona...istant#History
>
> First, wikipedia is interesting, but it is not an authoritative bible
> when it comes to facts. Sometimes it takes time for the facts to be
> straightened out.

yes, but in this instance it is 100% factual.

> And even if Sculley was the first to use the acronym, it doesn't mean
> that the Newton was the first device for which the term PDA could be
> applied.

there is no "if", it's a fact he is the first to do so. what has gotten
lost in the shuffle is the Newton still remains the only PDA. the "A"
stood for "Assistant", that actually asked you questions, no common PDA
or "Pocket Organizer" ever did that pre-PDA or post-PDA.

The "A" in the Newton allowed the software to anticipate the behavior of
the user and act on those assumptions. For example, Newton would filter
an AppleLink email, hyperlink all of the names to the address book,
search the email for dates and times, and ask the user if it should
schedule an event.

Pretty slick, nothing comes close to it even today.

> Before that, the term "Pocket Organiser" was often used.

yes, and those were Pocket Organizers, or PO's even PDO's, but not PDA's.

-

none wrote:

> the truth hurts sometime
>
> The term "personal data assistant" was first used on January 7, 1992 by
> Apple Computer CEO John Sculley at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las
> Vegas, Nevada, referring to the Apple Newton. PDAs are sometimes
> referred to as "Palms", "Palm Pilot" or "Palm Tops"
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persona...istant#History



Oh, and who made that edit, Oxford? Another fanboi? Corporate?

As you say, the truth can hurt.

"News" <News@Groups.com> skrev i meddelandet
news:1rWdnV0ylZioI7DanZ2dnUVZ_sHinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>
>
> none wrote:
>
>> the truth hurts sometime
>>
>> The term "personal data assistant" was first used on January 7, 1992 by
>> Apple Computer CEO John Sculley at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las
>> Vegas, Nevada, referring to the Apple Newton. PDAs are sometimes referred
>> to as "Palms", "Palm Pilot" or "Palm Tops"
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persona...istant#History
>
>
>
> Oh, and who made that edit, Oxford? Another fanboi? Corporate?
>
> As you say, the truth can hurt.

I'm amazed that so many take this oxford boy seriously! It must be an
american troll, since almost anyone in Europe can see that the iphone is
appr four years behind the models we are using today.

iphone is a teenagers toy... nice looking but very little of a phone...

BG wrote:

> "News" <News@Groups.com> skrev i meddelandet
> news:1rWdnV0ylZioI7DanZ2dnUVZ_sHinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>
>
> iphone is a teenagers toy...
>
>

Best demographic target for fashion victim wares...

On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:01:57 -0700, "Ness Net"
<richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:

Total BS against Leopard, which is totally irrelavant to this
Newsgroup

Ron wrote:

> On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:01:57 -0700, "Ness Net"
> <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:
>
> Total BS against Leopard, which is totally irrelavant to this
> Newsgroup


Then call off your AAPL trolls since they don't want to have to smell
the iBrick crap they drop here.

News <News@Groups.com> wrote:

> none wrote:
>
> > the truth hurts sometime
> >
> > The term "personal data assistant" was first used on January 7, 1992 by
> > Apple Computer CEO John Sculley at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las
> > Vegas, Nevada, referring to the Apple Newton. PDAs are sometimes
> > referred to as "Palms", "Palm Pilot" or "Palm Tops"
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persona...istant#History
>
> Oh, and who made that edit, Oxford? Another fanboi? Corporate?
>
> As you say, the truth can hurt.

yes, and he edited these 83 references as well, that oxford is amazing!

http://snipurl.com/1t4ij

learn your history, the term PDA came directly from Apple.

"BG" <borje@hotmail.com> wrote:

> iphone is a teenagers toy... nice looking but very little of a phone...

it's currently the world's most powerful smartphone, you'll be shocked
at how well designed it is. europe and asia is around a decade behind in
features, size and usability.

europe will all a buzz about from next week on. both the UK and Germany
are going to start having them next week.

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best shots.

Music and Video
iPhone is the best iPod ever. Its beautiful, 3.5-inch widescreen display
allows you to easily enjoy the music, TV shows, and movies you have in
your iTunes library. If you already use iTunes, you can start getting
ready for iPhone by creating a playlist of a few hundred of your
favorite songs. If you don't have iTunes, now is a good time to download
it and start a music and video library. That way, when you sync your
iPhone with iTunes, you'll be able to take your favorite music, as well
as a few of your TV shows and movies, with you wherever you go.

iTunes Account
To set up your iPhone, you'll need an account with Apple's iTunes Store.
If you already have an iTunes account, make sure you know your account
name and password. If you don't have an account, you should set one up
now to save time later. To set up an account, launch iTunes, select the
iTunes Store, and click the Sign In button in the upper right corner of
iTunes. Sign in and you're ready to go.

http://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/easysetup/getready.html

http://www.apple.com/de/iphone/easysetup/getready.html

France is later in the month. Orange won the iphone account there.

none wrote:
> News <News@Groups.com> wrote:
>
>
>>none wrote:
>>
>>
>>>the truth hurts sometime
>>>
>>>The term "personal data assistant" was first used on January 7, 1992 by
>>>Apple Computer CEO John Sculley at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las
>>>Vegas, Nevada, referring to the Apple Newton. PDAs are sometimes
>>>referred to as "Palms", "Palm Pilot" or "Palm Tops"
>>>
>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persona...istant#History
>>
>>Oh, and who made that edit, Oxford? Another fanboi? Corporate?
>>
>>As you say, the truth can hurt.
>
>
> yes, and he edited these 83 references as well, that oxford is amazing!
>
> http://snipurl.com/1t4ij
>
> learn your history, the term PDA came directly from Apple.



That term is significant, why? It represents a product phase, at best.

News <News@Groups.com> wrote:

> Best demographic target for fashion victim wares...

except the interesting thing about apple products is how it "looks" is
how it works as well. apple does "complete design", no other
cell/handset maker can do that since they don't control the entire
product. or are locked into old software systems (sybian) whereas apple
is running OSX under the hood which is by far the most popular unix in
the world so they can modernize the iphone as time goes on... other cell
phones are pretty much "stuck in time" when you purchase them. not the
iphone!

when you get a chance to touch, see, use one you'll understand what all
the excitement is about.

the "future" of all cell phones lands in europe next week.

november 9th to be exact.

http://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/

http://www.apple.com/de/iphone/

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

> > > How is it, then, that you're not spamming? Tell us more.
> >
> > So, Elmo... who is Adele Goldberg, and what crucial role did she play
> > in Steve Jobs's world?
>
> Many of us know the answer. We're waiting for YOU, the expert on the
> history of Apple Computer and personal computing, to tell us.

nobody knows but you Elmo, this is your story and I have you clearly
painted into a corner. Nobody else knows or they would have come forward
with your "secret" by now.

> After all, you ARE an expert, right? You've spent months telling
> everyone that.

Yes, I'm an expert on Apple's history and Adele doesn't appear anywhere
in it except for putting out refreshments and cookies when Apple came to
town. She's a nobody in the Apple realm, everyone knows that.

Except you.

none wrote:

> News <News@Groups.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Best demographic target for fashion victim wares...
>
>
> except the interesting thing about apple products is how it "looks" is
> how it works as well.


Yeah, right, Oxford. Fashion is fleeting and fickle.

Many now reporting they tried the iBrick and got over it fast.