I currently have an iPod with about 27GB on it. If I buy an iPhone or
Touch with less capacity, what do I need to do before first synching
with iTunes? Can I synch with my current iTunes or will it get
confused because I have an iPod and iPhone/Touch?
> I currently have an iPod with about 27GB on it. If I buy an iPhone or
> Touch with less capacity, what do I need to do before first synching
> with iTunes? Can I synch with my current iTunes or will it get
> confused because I have an iPod and iPhone/Touch?
no, itunes is intelligent about that type of condition... it will prompt
you and let you decide what you want... or just tell it what playlists
to sync before you sync... the color bar at the bottom will guide you.
you can have unlimited ipods connected to your mac, so don't worry.
David Moyer <davmoy@world.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:49ff7c14$0$89865$815e3792@news.qwest.net:
> ATHiker95 <mholmes@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I currently have an iPod with about 27GB on it. If I buy an iPhone or
>> Touch with less capacity, what do I need to do before first synching
>> with iTunes? Can I synch with my current iTunes or will it get
>> confused because I have an iPod and iPhone/Touch?
>
> no, itunes is intelligent
On May 4, 7:36*pm, David Moyer <dav...@world.com> wrote:
> ATHiker95 <mhol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I currently have an iPod with about 27GB on it. *If I buy an iPhone or
> > Touch with less capacity, what do I need to do before first synching
> > with iTunes? *Can I synch with my current iTunes or will it get
> > confused because I have an iPod and iPhone/Touch?
>
> no, itunes is intelligent about that type of condition... it will prompt
> you and let you decide what you want... or just tell it what playlists
> to sync before you sync... the color bar at the bottom will guide you.
>
> you can have unlimited ipods connected to your mac, so don't worry.
I appreciate the answers. What do you think of Method 3 on this page?
Wouldn't that be sort of a preferred alternative vs creating
playlists? This way you could have a library for one ipod and a
different library for another. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1495
Incidentally, I'm on Windows, not that that should matter.
In message <Xns9C01BAD823D1Abob@85.214.105.209> The Bob <nospam@bob.com>
was claimed to have wrote:
>David Moyer <davmoy@world.com> amazed us all with the following in
>news:49ff7c14$0$89865$815e3792@news.qwest.net:
>
>> ATHiker95 <mholmes@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I currently have an iPod with about 27GB on it. If I buy an iPhone or
>>> Touch with less capacity, what do I need to do before first synching
>>> with iTunes? Can I synch with my current iTunes or will it get
>>> confused because I have an iPod and iPhone/Touch?
>>
>> no, itunes is intelligent
>
>And with that, all credibility was lost.
Hey now, iTunes must be intelligent, why else would it need hundreds of
MBs of memory and consume a full 2.4GHz core worth of processor power
for minutes at a time just to manage a couple dozen GB worth of music if
it's not heavily contemplating something in there?
I mean sure, it forgets what devices it's synchronized with sometimes,
and sure it prefers to wipe them and start from scratch rather then
recovering gracefully, but Apple does it's best.
DevilsPGD <DeathToSpam@crazyhat.net> wrote in
news:e1l105dng9j6g94u5vvu1704qgf54fmnkd@4ax.com:
> Hey now, iTunes must be intelligent, why else would it need hundreds of
> MBs of memory and consume a full 2.4GHz core worth of processor power
> for minutes at a time just to manage a couple dozen GB worth of music if
> it's not heavily contemplating something in there?
>
> I mean sure, it forgets what devices it's synchronized with sometimes,
> and sure it prefers to wipe them and start from scratch rather then
> recovering gracefully, but Apple does it's best.
>
>
In message <Xns9C03BEDAB6DAnoonehomecom@74.209.131.13> Larry
<noone@home.com> was claimed to have wrote:
>DevilsPGD <DeathToSpam@crazyhat.net> wrote in
>news:e1l105dng9j6g94u5vvu1704qgf54fmnkd@4ax.com :
>
>> Hey now, iTunes must be intelligent, why else would it need hundreds of
>> MBs of memory and consume a full 2.4GHz core worth of processor power
>> for minutes at a time just to manage a couple dozen GB worth of music if
>> it's not heavily contemplating something in there?
>>
>> I mean sure, it forgets what devices it's synchronized with sometimes,
>> and sure it prefers to wipe them and start from scratch rather then
>> recovering gracefully, but Apple does it's best.
>>
>>
>
>http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=193921
>
>Maybe it might not be an issue at some point.....
The next step will be simple encryption of the iTunes/iPod interaction,
followed by a "breaking encryption" DMCA complaint, which unfortunately
carries more teeth.
> Hey now, iTunes must be intelligent, why else would it need hundreds of
> MBs of memory and consume a full 2.4GHz core worth of processor power
> for minutes at a time just to manage a couple dozen GB worth of music if
> it's not heavily contemplating something in there?
>
> I mean sure, it forgets what devices it's synchronized with sometimes,
> and sure it prefers to wipe them and start from scratch rather then
> recovering gracefully, but Apple does it's best.
but that's only on windows based machines, so nobody really cares. use
itunes on a mac and none of that is a problem.
David Moyer <davmoy@world.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:4a022bc4$0$87066$815e3792@news.qwest.net:
> DevilsPGD <DeathToSpam@crazyhat.net> wrote:
>
>> Hey now, iTunes must be intelligent, why else would it need hundreds of
>> MBs of memory and consume a full 2.4GHz core worth of processor power
>> for minutes at a time just to manage a couple dozen GB worth of music if
>> it's not heavily contemplating something in there?
>>
>> I mean sure, it forgets what devices it's synchronized with sometimes,
>> and sure it prefers to wipe them and start from scratch rather then
>> recovering gracefully, but Apple does it's best.
>
> but that's only on windows based machines, so nobody really cares. use
> itunes on a mac and none of that is a problem.
>
Nobody cares except for about 90% of the known universe.
In message <4a022bc4$0$87066$815e3792@news.qwest.net> David Moyer
<davmoy@world.com> was claimed to have wrote:
>DevilsPGD <DeathToSpam@crazyhat.net> wrote:
>
>> Hey now, iTunes must be intelligent, why else would it need hundreds of
>> MBs of memory and consume a full 2.4GHz core worth of processor power
>> for minutes at a time just to manage a couple dozen GB worth of music if
>> it's not heavily contemplating something in there?
>>
>> I mean sure, it forgets what devices it's synchronized with sometimes,
>> and sure it prefers to wipe them and start from scratch rather then
>> recovering gracefully, but Apple does it's best.
>
>but that's only on windows based machines, so nobody really cares. use
>itunes on a mac and none of that is a problem.
If by nobody, you mean some 85%-90% of the market, then you're correct.
> >> I mean sure, it forgets what devices it's synchronized with sometimes,
> >> and sure it prefers to wipe them and start from scratch rather then
> >> recovering gracefully, but Apple does it's best.
> >
> >but that's only on windows based machines, so nobody really cares. use
> >itunes on a mac and none of that is a problem.
>
> If by nobody, you mean some 85%-90% of the market, then you're correct.
but, very, very few of that 90% are sophisticated enough to be using
iTunes. Windows simply can't handled advanced apps like iTunes, it
doesn't have a modern enough architecture. but you can certainly try,
but people in the know use Macs for that task.
> Nobody cares except for about 90% of the known universe.
like a cash register, or typewriter would really care... i know you are
jealous, i can see it in your posts... but yes, you too will get a mac
some day.
nospam wrote:
> In article <4a032b23$0$87069$815e3792@news.qwest.net>, David Moyer
> <davmoy@world.com> wrote:
>
>> Windows simply can't handled advanced apps like iTunes, it
>> doesn't have a modern enough architecture.
>
> nonsense.
Runs fine on Win2K and WinXP, but tends to munge DVD/CD-R driver packs.
David Moyer <davmoy@world.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:4a032b5d$0$87069$815e3792@news.qwest.net:
> The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote:
>
>> Nobody cares except for about 90% of the known universe.
>
> like a cash register, or typewriter would really care... i know you are
> jealous, i can see it in your posts... but yes, you too will get a mac
> some day.
>
Not likely- the cost/benefit analysis shows there is no benefit to the
cost.
> > >> I mean sure, it forgets what devices it's synchronized with
sometimes,
> > >> and sure it prefers to wipe them and start from scratch rather then
> > >> recovering gracefully, but Apple does it's best.
> > >
> > >but that's only on windows based machines, so nobody really cares.
use
> > >itunes on a mac and none of that is a problem.
> >
> > If by nobody, you mean some 85%-90% of the market, then you're correct.
>
> but, very, very few of that 90% are sophisticated enough to be using
> iTunes.
Very, very, many of that 90% are probably unwilling users because they're
unfortunate enough to own an iPhone or iPod.
You'd think Apple would be smart enough t use iTunes as showcase to
Windows users unfamiliar with Macs of how easy and intuitive Macs are.
Instead, they must wonder what all the fuss about Macs is about if the
Mac OS is as "intuitive" as iTunes...
Any software that actually makes you pine for the UI of Windows Media
Player needs a facelift pronto!
Todd Allcock wrote:
> At 07 May 2009 12:40:35 -0600 David Moyer wrote:
>
>>>>> I mean sure, it forgets what devices it's synchronized with
> sometimes,
>>>>> and sure it prefers to wipe them and start from scratch rather then
>>>>> recovering gracefully, but Apple does it's best.
>>>> but that's only on windows based machines, so nobody really cares.
> use
>>>> itunes on a mac and none of that is a problem.
>>> If by nobody, you mean some 85%-90% of the market, then you're correct.
>
>
>> but, very, very few of that 90% are sophisticated enough to be using
>> iTunes.
>
> Very, very, many of that 90% are probably unwilling users because they're
> unfortunate enough to own an iPhone or iPod.
>
> You'd think Apple would be smart enough t use iTunes as showcase to
> Windows users unfamiliar with Macs of how easy and intuitive Macs are.
> Instead, they must wonder what all the fuss about Macs is about if the
> Mac OS is as "intuitive" as iTunes...
>
> Any software that actually makes you pine for the UI of Windows Media
> Player needs a facelift pronto!
Good point, just TRY to figure out the non-intuitive iGibberish.
In addition to the incessant iTunes software push updates perpetually
munging Windows DVD/CD-R drivers.
Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in news:ILJMl.23464
$Rf7.1275@newsfe21.iad:
> Any software that actually makes you pine for the UI of Windows Media
> Player needs a facelift pronto!
>
>
>
I still wanna know why I can't load music on my iPhoney with any file
manager on any computer. I plug in a $39 MP3 player, Windows says its a
portable USB hard drive. I copy files to the $39 MP3 player with File
Manager, unplug it and play the music.
What is there about Crapple that can't understand this simple
concept....like cut and paste....like copy and paste???
How sad you have to have a nanny to use your $400 sellphone toy....
--
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Larry
You can tell there's very intelligent life in the Universe
because none of them have ever tried to contact us.....
News <News@Group.name> wrote in news7CdnWa94cWE857XnZ2dnUVZ_s- dnZ2d@speakeasy.net:
> Good point, just TRY to figure out the non-intuitive iGibberish.
>
> In addition to the incessant iTunes software push updates perpetually
> munging Windows DVD/CD-R drivers.
>
>
Do you think they're trying to destroy your ability to simply copy music,
instead of buying it from Crapple?
Destroying the drivers would be a good way.....
--
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Larry
You can tell there's very intelligent life in the Universe
because none of them have ever tried to contact us.....
David Moyer <davmoy@world.com> wrote in news:4a032b5d$0$87069$815e3792
@news.qwest.net:
> The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote:
>
>> Nobody cares except for about 90% of the known universe.
>
> like a cash register, or typewriter would really care... i know you are
> jealous, i can see it in your posts... but yes, you too will get a mac
> some day.
>
David, whatever you're smokin' is some really good ****!
You should start learning something about computers, some day. There's
lots more to them than moving icons around with a one-button mouse on some
net appliance.
--
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Larry
You can tell there's very intelligent life in the Universe
because none of them have ever tried to contact us.....
Larry wrote:
> News <News@Group.name> wrote in news7CdnWa94cWE857XnZ2dnUVZ_s-
> dnZ2d@speakeasy.net:
>
>> Good point, just TRY to figure out the non-intuitive iGibberish.
>>
>> In addition to the incessant iTunes software push updates perpetually
>> munging Windows DVD/CD-R drivers.
>>
>>
>
> Do you think they're trying to destroy your ability to simply copy music,
> instead of buying it from Crapple?
>
> Destroying the drivers would be a good way.....
Less ethically offensive, and more basic and insidious than that,
pooching the DVD/CD-R drivers eliminates a valuable data backup format.
In article <Xns9C04D2E913DFnoonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, Larry
<noone@home.com> wrote:
> I still wanna know why I can't load music on my iPhoney with any file
> manager on any computer. I plug in a $39 MP3 player, Windows says its a
> portable USB hard drive. I copy files to the $39 MP3 player with File
> Manager, unplug it and play the music.
because as has been explained before, that would eliminate a
substantial amount of functionality, such as regular playlists, smart
playlists, song ratings, browse by various tags, etc.
> I still wanna know why I can't load music on my iPhoney with any file
> manager on any computer. I plug in a $39 MP3 player, Windows says its a
> portable USB hard drive. I copy files to the $39 MP3 player with File
> Manager, unplug it and play the music.
>
> What is there about Crapple that can't understand this simple
> concept....like cut and paste....like copy and paste???
>
> How sad you have to have a nanny to use your $400 sellphone toy....
it's because itunes is really a complex database app, so simply dragging
and dropping doesn't allow for all the addition data management you get
when you turn on your ipod / iphone.
playing an mp3 file is easy, but adding cover art, lyrics, tracking play
count, ratings, etc... you have to have more meat behind the file.
> > Windows simply can't handled advanced apps like iTunes, it
> > doesn't have a modern enough architecture.
>
> nonsense.
no, it's technically true... windows doesn't have a modern multimedia
architecture... that's why apple has to install quicktime on those
machines before itunes can operate. windows is a mess for anything
graphics or audio related.
David Moyer <davmoy@world.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:4a039723$0$87074$815e3792@news.qwest.net:
>
> playing an mp3 file is easy, but adding cover art, lyrics, tracking
> play count, ratings, etc... you have to have more meat behind the
> file.
>
You make it sound like some fantastic miracle of computer science. My 17
year-old could code the same functionality in Microsoft Access in less than
a weekend. Might take me a day and I'm not that savvy in Access.
In article <Xns9C04D0B1B3B6Abob@85.214.105.209>, The Bob
<nospam@bob.com> wrote:
> > playing an mp3 file is easy, but adding cover art, lyrics, tracking
> > play count, ratings, etc... you have to have more meat behind the
> > file.
> You make it sound like some fantastic miracle of computer science. My 17
> year-old could code the same functionality in Microsoft Access in less than
> a weekend. Might take me a day and I'm not that savvy in Access.
ok let's see either of you write itunes in a weekend.
In article <4a0398e6$0$87068$815e3792@news.qwest.net>, David Moyer
<davmoy@world.com> wrote:
> > > Windows simply can't handled advanced apps like iTunes, it
> > > doesn't have a modern enough architecture.
> >
> > nonsense.
>
> no, it's technically true... windows doesn't have a modern multimedia
> architecture... that's why apple has to install quicktime on those
> machines before itunes can operate. windows is a mess for anything
> graphics or audio related.
********. apple installs quicktime because it makes writing cross
platform code much easier.
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> amazed us all with the following in
news:070520091958172872%nospam@nospam.invalid:
> In article <Xns9C04D0B1B3B6Abob@85.214.105.209>, The Bob
> <nospam@bob.com> wrote:
>
>> > playing an mp3 file is easy, but adding cover art, lyrics, tracking
>> > play count, ratings, etc... you have to have more meat behind the
>> > file.
>
>> You make it sound like some fantastic miracle of computer science.
>> My 17 year-old could code the same functionality in Microsoft Access
>> in less than a weekend. Might take me a day and I'm not that savvy
>> in Access.
>
> ok let's see either of you write itunes in a weekend.
>
Actually , did n't offer to build iTUnes. I offered to replicate the
functionality. As I think about it, many of the pieces have already been
built. I have 500gig and 1Tb drives already to go. The 500g drive
contains about 27,000 music files, most with album art, lyrics and liner
notes already associated. I could easily bump it up against one of the
many ratings databases to grab the rating for each file. That's the nice
thing about Microsoft- they provide the ability in the file properties to
imbed just about all of these into mp3 file properties. In fact, if I
owned the full rights to any of these files, I could even put DRM on them
and offer them for sale, just as iTUnes does. The "more meat" you talk
about is called the basic Microsoft file structure- no addons needed.
Now, for organizational purposes, a simple Access frontend would suffice.
Allow search by artist, genre, song title, album title or any number of
other variables that can be inbedded in the previously mentioned file
properties. Hell, the functionality to play a 15 second snip of a selected
song is nothing more than a modified button. The front end would recognize
all music files available, not just the ones that are specific to a single
device. The frontend would even recommmend the appropriate player for each
file type as it is selected. I could even query any one of a number of
Application Update sites and inform the user when any software on their
computer has a patch available and offer to download and install it for
them. A simple play counter could be coded in as well- small table
modification and text box on the form.
All built with off-the-shelf software and a project that any intermediate
user could complete in very little time. To beef it up, switch from Access
to an html page and go from hard drive to server
Your defense of your silly claime have allowed to prove that the smoke and
mirrors that is iTunes is nothing more than a glorifed database. And not a
horribly complex one.
> > like a cash register, or typewriter would really care... i know you are
> > jealous, i can see it in your posts... but yes, you too will get a mac
> > some day.
> >
>
> Not likely- the cost/benefit analysis shows there is no benefit to the
> cost.
sure, but paying an extra $100 to be happy is well worth it...
David Moyer <davmoy@world.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:4a03ae08$0$87073$815e3792@news.qwest.net:
> The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote:
>
>> > like a cash register, or typewriter would really care... i know you
>> > are jealous, i can see it in your posts... but yes, you too will
>> > get a mac some day.
>> >
>>
>> Not likely- the cost/benefit analysis shows there is no benefit to
>> the cost.
>
> sure, but paying an extra $100 to be happy is well worth it...
>
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