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Old 05-13-2008, 08:54 AM
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Default Newb question about 3g iPhone

Pardon my ignorance but I was hoping someone could explain this to me.

I was under the impression that ATTs cell phone network is non-3g. I've
heard it referred to as a 2.5g or 2.75g network. Now if Apple releases a 3g
iPhone won't it need a 3g network to run on? How will folks who subscribe to
ATT be able to take advantage of the speed?

Thanks for any info!



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Old 05-13-2008, 10:49 AM
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On Tue, 13 May 2008 01:54:27 -0700, "add kid"
<tsms2NOSPAM@charter.net> wrote:

>Pardon my ignorance but I was hoping someone could explain this to me.
>
>I was under the impression that ATTs cell phone network is non-3g. I've
>heard it referred to as a 2.5g or 2.75g network. Now if Apple releases a 3g
>iPhone won't it need a 3g network to run on? How will folks who subscribe to
>ATT be able to take advantage of the speed?
>
>Thanks for any info!
>


AT&T has 3g coverage in most cities and is spending to expand
coverage. Where are you located? Lubbock, TX for instance has no 3g
currently, all the larger cities in Texas do have 3g. Houston, Dallas,
San Antonio, Austin, Corpus Christi, and assorted other areas. Check
the coverage map (first link).


Check here

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/

http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pi...rticleid=25146

http://macdailynews.com/index.php/we...omments/17118/

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Old 05-13-2008, 11:34 AM
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"Ron" <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
news:6rri24dtuc103h0qej29f6fa553ri4cbfa@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 13 May 2008 01:54:27 -0700, "add kid"
> <tsms2NOSPAM@charter.net> wrote:
>
>>Pardon my ignorance but I was hoping someone could explain this to me.
>>
>>I was under the impression that ATTs cell phone network is non-3g. I've
>>heard it referred to as a 2.5g or 2.75g network. Now if Apple releases a
>>3g
>>iPhone won't it need a 3g network to run on? How will folks who subscribe
>>to
>>ATT be able to take advantage of the speed?
>>
>>Thanks for any info!
>>

>
> AT&T has 3g coverage in most cities and is spending to expand
> coverage. Where are you located? Lubbock, TX for instance has no 3g
> currently, all the larger cities in Texas do have 3g. Houston, Dallas,
> San Antonio, Austin, Corpus Christi, and assorted other areas. Check
> the coverage map (first link).
>
>
> Check here
>
> http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/
>
> http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pi...rticleid=25146
>
> http://macdailynews.com/index.php/we...omments/17118/



Oh wow, I had no idea ATT had 3g coverage. I'm in L.A. and the coverage
looks pretty good here. Thanks for the info Ron!



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Old 05-13-2008, 12:08 PM
Ron
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On Tue, 13 May 2008 04:34:34 -0700, "add kid"
<tsms2NOSPAM@charter.net> wrote:

>
>"Ron" <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
>news:6rri24dtuc103h0qej29f6fa553ri4cbfa@4ax.com.. .
>> On Tue, 13 May 2008 01:54:27 -0700, "add kid"
>> <tsms2NOSPAM@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Pardon my ignorance but I was hoping someone could explain this to me.
>>>
>>>I was under the impression that ATTs cell phone network is non-3g. I've
>>>heard it referred to as a 2.5g or 2.75g network. Now if Apple releases a
>>>3g
>>>iPhone won't it need a 3g network to run on? How will folks who subscribe
>>>to
>>>ATT be able to take advantage of the speed?
>>>
>>>Thanks for any info!
>>>

>>
>> AT&T has 3g coverage in most cities and is spending to expand
>> coverage. Where are you located? Lubbock, TX for instance has no 3g
>> currently, all the larger cities in Texas do have 3g. Houston, Dallas,
>> San Antonio, Austin, Corpus Christi, and assorted other areas. Check
>> the coverage map (first link).
>>
>>
>> Check here
>>
>> http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/
>>
>> http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pi...rticleid=25146
>>
>> http://macdailynews.com/index.php/we...omments/17118/

>
>
>Oh wow, I had no idea ATT had 3g coverage. I'm in L.A. and the coverage
>looks pretty good here. Thanks for the info Ron!
>


The maps show good coverage at Pico and La Cienga for instance. Keep
in mind the map is sometimes optimistic.

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Old 05-14-2008, 04:36 AM
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On May 13, 6:49 am, Ron <roncliff...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 13 May 2008 01:54:27 -0700, "add kid"
>
> <tsms2NOS...@charter.net> wrote:
> >Pardon my ignorance but I was hoping someone could explain this to me.

>
> >I was under the impression that ATTs cell phone network is non-3g. I've
> >heard it referred to as a 2.5g or 2.75g network. Now if Apple releases a 3g
> >iPhone won't it need a 3g network to run on? How will folks who subscribe to
> >ATT be able to take advantage of the speed?

>
> >Thanks for any info!

>
> AT&T has 3g coverage in most cities and is spending to expand
> coverage. Where are you located? Lubbock, TX for instance has no 3g
> currently, all the larger cities in Texas do have 3g. Houston, Dallas,
> San Antonio, Austin, Corpus Christi, and assorted other areas. Check
> the coverage map (first link).
>
> Check here
>
> http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/
> r
> http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pi...rticleid=25146
>
> http://macdailynews.com/index.php/we...omments/17118/


Something else to consider

Apparently you can not talk and data transfer at the same time on
Verizon or Sprint.

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Old 05-15-2008, 12:32 AM
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4phun wrote:
> Apparently you can not talk and data transfer at the same time on
> Verizon or Sprint.


Neither can you on GSM..or at least with my Moto V557 that has to drop
the data call for me to answer a voice call.

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Old 05-15-2008, 01:55 AM
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On May 14, 8:32*pm, DTC <m...@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote:
> 4phun wrote:
> > Apparently you can not talk and data transfer at the same time on
> > Verizon or Sprint.

>
> Neither can you on GSM..or at least with my Moto V557 that has to drop
> the data call for me to answer a voice call.


You probably were not in a 3G area or else it was crappy hardware.

The 3G iPhone will allow simutaneous data and voice, surf and talk
(and video) at the same time. Yes it can be done on AT&T's 3G network.

It can also be done on 3G or faster GSM in other countries.



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Old 05-15-2008, 02:30 AM
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At 14 May 2008 19:32:53 -0500 DTC wrote:
> 4phun wrote:
> > Apparently you can not talk and data transfer at the same time on
> > Verizon or Sprint.

>
> Neither can you on GSM..or at least with my Moto V557 that has to drop
> the data call for me to answer a voice call.


Depends on the hardware. Many 3G phones can do simultaneous voice/data (on
3G, of course- in 2G "fallback" areas it's still either/or.)




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Old 05-15-2008, 03:10 AM
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4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:176dad43-b19f-4728-b809-0419fa4d7294@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:

> On May 14, 8:32*pm, DTC <m...@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote:
>> 4phun wrote:
>> > Apparently you can not talk and data transfer at the same time on
>> > Verizon or Sprint.

>>
>> Neither can you on GSM..or at least with my Moto V557 that has to drop
>> the data call for me to answer a voice call.

>
> You probably were not in a 3G area or else it was crappy hardware.
>
> The 3G iPhone will allow simutaneous data and voice, surf and talk
> (and video) at the same time.


Source?


> Yes it can be done on AT&T's 3G network.
>
> It can also be done on 3G or faster GSM in other countries.
>
>
>



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Old 05-15-2008, 07:33 PM
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In message
<0a77017d-9c7d-477e-80d1-2ef02b662c1b@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote:

>Apparently you can not talk and data transfer at the same time on
>Verizon or Sprint.


Nor GSM, unless you have 3G service. Luckily, Rogers' 3G service does
it nicely, and I'd expect AT&T to implement similar.

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Old 05-16-2008, 01:57 PM
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add kid wrote:
> Pardon my ignorance but I was hoping someone could explain this to me.
>
> I was under the impression that ATTs cell phone network is non-3g. I've
> heard it referred to as a 2.5g or 2.75g network. Now if Apple releases a 3g
> iPhone won't it need a 3g network to run on? How will folks who subscribe to
> ATT be able to take advantage of the speed?


Their 3G coverage is fine in large cities. Their 3G network is not as
extensive as Verizon or Sprint's. Also, Verizon and Sprint are moving to
EVDO rev B soon, which will greatly increase the transfer rates. AT&T
just caught up to Verizon and Sprint recently.

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Old 05-16-2008, 03:12 PM
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SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:jlgXj.4727$nl7.223
@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com:

> Verizon and Sprint are moving to
> EVDO rev B soon,


That won't matter on Verizon. They still won't let you use it.

Webpage spam and email ONLY....


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Old 05-16-2008, 06:08 PM
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On May 16, 11:12*am, Larry <no...@home.com> wrote:
> SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote in news:jlgXj.4727$nl7.223
> @flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com:
>
> > Verizon and Sprint are moving to
> > EVDO rev B soon,

>
> That won't matter on Verizon. *They still won't let you use it.
>
> Webpage spam and email ONLY....


What I don't understand is Verizon locking all those new phones into
that UGLY VERIZON RED INTERFACE,
If they wanted to screw up the iPhone they could have agreed to use it
on their system but insisted to Apple that it must match every other
Verizon phone as far as look and feel.

Someone just for phun should create such an iPhone Springboard theme
for those who switched to AT&T but miss their old Verizon look and
feel.

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