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Old 01-27-2010, 11:05 PM
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In article <Xns9D0DBDBA643CDnoonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, Larry
<noone@home.com> wrote:

> No it won't. It doesn't have the codecs to play any movies but the same
> ****** ones iPhone/iTouch plays and there is no way of loading other codecs
> like Realmedia, Windows media, DivX, XviD, OGG, etc., codecs onto it.


hasn't really affected sales of the iphone/ipod touch. not that many
people seem to care about nonstandard codecs.

> You'll be stuck with the same ****** conversion-to-ipad nonsense iPhoners
> hate and forced to use Nanny Itunes to load it to make sure Apple is in
> control.


nonsense.

> The hang-on SD card reader SAYS it will IMPORT pictures and videos. Does
> that mean it will convert on-the-fly from a DivX movie to something the
> iShit can read? Wanna bet?.....(d^


use an industry standard format. stop pushing that proprietary garbage.

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In article <michelle-A294ED.16440127012010@news.eternal-september.org>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> Someone get the pablum; Larry needs to be spoon fed everything.


someone needs to put something in his porridge. maybe that will shut
him up.

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Old 01-27-2010, 11:15 PM
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In article <Xns9D0DBBC2E361Fnoonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, Larry
<noone@home.com> wrote:

>
> No effect at all. To quote Tablet News:

<snip>

Please don'tr waste time responding tho this moron ... it is only jealous
and upset that it's hopeless Nokia tablet is now completely useless and
obsolete.

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Old 01-27-2010, 11:16 PM
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nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:270120101905164986%
nospam@nospam.invalid:

> if anyone is laughing, it's at you.
>
>


Wow....the response is quick tonight....They're punching RELOAD to the
newsgroup every 10 seconds!

The apologists are in full tilt mode.....phasors to STUN!


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Old 01-27-2010, 11:18 PM
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In article <alpine.OSX.2.00.1001271256550.17411@hsinghsing.pa nda.com>,
Mark Crispin <mrc@panda.com> wrote:

> Yawn.
>
> An expensive alternative to a netbook that doesn't even run MacOS.
>
> But just the perfect thing for fanboys.


Oh goody. Just what we needed, another moron who doesn't know what they're
talking about. As if Loser Larry and his mate weren't bad enough. :-\

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Old 01-27-2010, 11:21 PM
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In article <Xns9D0DBDBA643CDnoonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, Larry
<noone@home.com> wrote:

> "Your Name" <your.name@isp.com> wrote in news:hjq5tr$fle$1@lust.ihug.co.nz:
>
> > being able to watch movies better.
> >

>
> No it won't. It doesn't have the codecs to play any movies but the same
> ****** ones iPhone/iTouch plays and there is no way of loading other codecs
> like Realmedia, Windows media, DivX, XviD, OGG, etc., codecs onto it.
>
> You'll be stuck with the same ****** conversion-to-ipad nonsense iPhoners
> hate and forced to use Nanny Itunes to load it to make sure Apple is in
> control.
>
> The hang-on SD card reader SAYS it will IMPORT pictures and videos. Does
> that mean it will convert on-the-fly from a DivX movie to something the
> iShit can read? Wanna bet?.....(d^


Blah, blah, blah, blah. Here we go, Loser Larry has another new Apple
product to hate and know aboslutely nothing about. The moron must think
he's in heaven ... if only he was so that we don't have to put up with the
useless idiot. :-\

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Old 01-27-2010, 11:22 PM
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In article <270120101905205242%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam
<nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <michelle-A294ED.16440127012010@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>
> > Someone get the pablum; Larry needs to be spoon fed everything.

>
> someone needs to put something in his porridge. maybe that will shut
> him up.


Arsnic, anti-freeze, rat poison, ... the list of good choices is almost endless.

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Old 01-27-2010, 11:24 PM
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In article <michelle-F62E27.17174027012010@news.eternal-september.org>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <Xns9D0DBF0CA9715noonehomecom@74.209.131.13>,
> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> > DivX
> >
> > XviD
> >
> > Realplayer
> >
> > Windows Media

>
> Why bother with those ancient and outmoded technologies?


divx is popular for pirated movies. without divx support, what is he
going to do? he's already admitted he doesn't give a flying **** about
copyrights.

> > 3 USB ports including one that will CHARGE it without hauling around a
> > DOCK + USB powersupply + power cable for the USB power supply.

>
> You don't need a dock, dumbshit. Oh, and the power supply is 1" by 1" by
> 1" (excluding the prongs), and weighs maybe an ounce. I realize that to
> someone as feeble as you, it would be a major effort to haul something like
> that around, but to us normal people, it's no big deal.


it's bigger than the adapter for the iphone

> > A mobile charging cord that plugs DIRECTLY into it so you can charge it
> > in your car riding along like the rest of the device can.

>
> Already exists from third parties.


not only that, but a lot of cars already have ipod docks. no need for
any cables at all.

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Old 01-27-2010, 11:38 PM
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your.name@isp.com (Your Name) wrote in news:your.name-2801101315490001@203-
109-175-83.dial.dyn.ihug.co.nz:

> Please don'tr waste time responding tho this moron ... it is only jealous
> and upset that it's hopeless Nokia tablet is now completely useless and
> obsolete.
>
>


Hmm....At the moment, it's playing Aljazeera TV off my wifi in Realvideo.

Don't talk too loud. I don't want to discourage it.....


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Old 01-27-2010, 11:39 PM
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Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in news:michelle-
F62E27.17174027012010@news.eternal-september.org:

>> DivX
>>
>> XviD
>>
>> Realplayer
>>
>> Windows Media

>
> Why bother with those ancient and outmoded technologies?
>
>


Because those are the codecs plus Flash that 99% of the internet uses?

Aljazeera TV is playing from their webpage on my Nokia N800 Linux tablet in
Realvideo as I'm typing this, sitting atop my keyboard....(c;]


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Old 01-27-2010, 11:52 PM
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Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in news:michelle-
F62E27.17174027012010@news.eternal-september.org:

>> A $299 netbook does all these things....Why can't Apple for 3 times the
>> price??

>
> $299 * 3 = $599 in Larry's math system.
>
>


Now that you mention it, let's get into the math.

64GB iPad - $699
3G support $130
Keyboard? $150?
SD dongle $50?
subtotal $1029?

1029/netbook$299 = 3.4 times as much....but the netbook as ten times as
much storage, 3 full USB ports, Bluetooth support for lots more than
headphones, a bigger display which folds to protect both the display and
keyboard during transport, a full-working SD card reader/WRITER, XP or Win7
YOU control, not Daddy....It's not really fair to say only 3.4 times as
much money. The netbooks, ANY netbook, is a far more useful device that
weighs the same....don't forget to weigh the keyboarddock/dongles with it.

The netbook and its keyboard are 'THINNER' than the maxipad and its
keyboard!

Geez, my NC10 even has TWO interchangeable batteries because I like to
watch too much off-the-air HDTV on the USB TV dongle ($35 on sale at Radio
Shack even with remote control and antenna)!

$1030 for THAT? Are you KIDDING?!



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Old 01-27-2010, 11:56 PM
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nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:270120101924223772%
nospam@nospam.invalid:

> not only that, but a lot of cars already have ipod docks. no need for
> any cables at all.
>
>


i DO want to see you plug this pig into an ipod dock and drive down a bumpy
road....That would be really fun to see it break off its ****** proprietary
connector.

You got Vodka in the koolaid tonight?


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Old 01-27-2010, 11:56 PM
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your.name@isp.com (Your Name) wrote in news:your.name-2801101321120001@203-
109-175-83.dial.dyn.ihug.co.nz:

> Blah, blah, blah, blah. Here we go,


Yep....here we go pointing out the GLARING FLAWS.

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Old 01-28-2010, 12:21 AM
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Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in news:michelle-
A99D67.18064827012010@news.eternal-september.org:

> Come to think of it, you are to Jews like Fred
> Phelps is to Jews.
>


Thank you rabbi.....


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Old 01-28-2010, 01:19 AM
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Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <Xns9D0DCF1A42ED8noonehomecom@74.209.131.13>,
> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>>> Come to think of it, you are to Jews like Fred
>>> Phelps is to Jews.
>>>

>> Thank you rabbi.....

>
> Hey, Larrykins, I'm not Jewish. Even a dumb**** Jew-hater like you should
> be able to understand that.
>



Stuff a maxiPad in it.

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Old 01-28-2010, 02:13 AM
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In article <vpybocohtftj$.xwqtjjip94oo$.dlg@40tude.net>,
salgud <spamboy6547@comcast.net> wrote:

> So AT&T unlimited data is now free? Hard to believe. Since it's been $30/mo
> for as long as I can remember, dropping it $30 makes it free! I think I'm
> gonna check with AT&T before I buy this story!



Here ya go....
---------
Macworld - In war, there are no winners--unless the war in question
happens to be a price war, and the combatants happen to be Verizon and
AT&T. In that case, customers tend to make out quite nicely.

Verizon Wireless on Friday cut the prices of its unlimited talk and text
plans, so arch-rival AT&T immediately followed suit. And that benefits
iPhone customers, who can now opt for an unlimited voice and data plan
that costs $30 less per month.

Previously, iPhone users paid $100 per month for unlimited voice plan
plus another $30 for unlimited data. Starting Monday (January 25),
however, AT&T is charging $100 a month for unlimited voice and data.
Texting prices remain unchanged, at $20 for unlimited plans and $30 for
Family Talk Plans.

http://www.computerworld.com/s/artic...rice_of_iPhone
_s_unlimited_voice_and_data_plan

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Old 01-28-2010, 02:19 AM
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In article <michelle-719234.17535227012010@news.eternal-september.org>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <Xns9D0DC80B9B77Bnoonehomecom@74.209.131.13>,
> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
> > >> DivX
> > >>
> > >> XviD
> > >>
> > >> Realplayer
> > >>
> > >> Windows Media
> > >
> > > Why bother with those ancient and outmoded technologies?

> >
> > Because those are the codecs plus Flash that 99% of the internet uses?

>
> Yeah, a few sites still use them, but not all that many.
>
> Oh, by the way concerning your rant about eBooks: The iPad uses the ePub
> format, which is a free, open, and non-proprietary format.
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPUB>


Not to mention the numerous free ebooks available in plain text formats.

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Old 01-28-2010, 03:27 AM
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In article <Xns9D0DCAD1A1FE6noonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, Larry
<noone@home.com> wrote:

> i DO want to see you plug this pig into an ipod dock and drive down a bumpy
> road....That would be really fun to see it break off its ****** proprietary
> connector.


lots of people do that every day.

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Old 01-28-2010, 03:27 AM
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In article <michelle-9736D8.17551927012010@news.eternal-september.org>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> Hmmm, I thought it used the same adapter as the iPhone, and that's what I
> provided the dimensions for.


it uses the square one that came with the original iphone (with the
slide off duckhead, like the powerbooks/macbooks, but smaller), not the
tiny one that comes with the 3g.

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Old 01-28-2010, 04:55 AM
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At 27 Jan 2010 17:53:52 -0700 Michelle Steiner wrote:

> Oh, by the way concerning your rant about eBooks: The iPad uses the
> ePub format, which is a free, open, and non-proprietary format.
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPUB>



I'll be interesting to see what Apple uses for DRM. If they use the
existing Adobe ADEPT system, like Sony, then iPad users could take
advantage of the wealth of public libraries who lend ePub books via the
Overdive DRM system, which expire and become unreadable after the lending
period is over.

Of course, if iPad supports ADEPT, you'd also be able to purchase ePub
content outside of iBooks/Tunes, so I don't quite picture that
happening...



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Old 01-28-2010, 06:00 AM
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On 2010-01-27, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <4b609dbe$0$1633$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, SMS
><scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>> Perhaps someone will figure out how to tether it as well.

>
> the only people who need to figure out how to tether is at&t. it's been
> over six months since they said it was coming. idiots.


At least with the iPhone, if you are desperate to do this anyway you
can always take the SIM out of it and put it in another phone with fewer
constraints. The iPad's new, improved teeny tiny micro SIM (are they
really so space-constrained in there that they had to do that?)
won't fit in any existing phone so even that's out now.

And what are you supposed to do if you travel overseas with your nice,
unlocked iPad? Will there now be how-to videos on how to cut up
a standard-size SIM card from the overseas carrier to fit in the teeny
holder, like the iPhone battery replacement videos of old?

I can't quite figure out why the world's biggest iPhone just
had to have the world's smallest SIM card. There might be
an ongoing theme here, though. Unless I've missed something
I noticed, for example, that if you go out and pay full price
for an unlocked, carrier-free iPhone, and then go out and pay
top dollar for a tethering data plan, you still don't get to
tether your iPhone unless the carrier is one of those which Apple
has graciously allowed to grease Apple's palm with kickbacks;
with a non-iPhone carrier's SIM the tethering menus never seem
to appear no matter what data plan you have and how much you paid
for the phone. I guess picking a non-standard "standard" for the
SIM, no doubt initially available only from special carriers with
special Apple-approved data plans, is an even more effective method
than just defeaturing the device to encourage you to do what Apple
wants with your purchase, rather than what you'd like?

Dennis Ferguson

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Old 01-28-2010, 06:04 AM
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At 27 Jan 2010 22:13:01 -0500 iPhone &iPad News wrote:

> salgud <spamboy6547@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > So AT&T unlimited data is now free? Hard to believe. Since it's been
> > $30/mo for as long as I can remember, dropping it $30 makes it free!
> > I think I'm gonna check with AT&T before I buy this story!

>
>
> Here ya go....


<Snip>

> Verizon Wireless on Friday cut the prices of its unlimited talk and
> text plans, so arch-rival AT&T immediately followed suit. And that
> benefits iPhone customers, who can now opt for an unlimited voice and
> data plan that costs $30 less per month.
>
> Previously, iPhone users paid $100 per month for unlimited voice plan
> plus another $30 for unlimited data. Starting Monday (January 25),
> however, AT&T is charging $100 a month for unlimited voice and data.
> Texting prices remain unchanged, at $20 for unlimited plans and $30 for
> Family Talk Plans.



Both companies dropped the price of unlimited TALK by $30, from $99 to $69.

Data is the same additional $30 above and beyond any voice plan that it
cost previously. In your original post you said iPhone DATA dropped by
$30, which is what Salgud took issue with.



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Old 01-28-2010, 06:11 AM
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In article <slrnhm2dh2.5c.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com>, Dennis
Ferguson <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote:

> At least with the iPhone, if you are desperate to do this anyway you
> can always take the SIM out of it and put it in another phone with fewer
> constraints. The iPad's new, improved teeny tiny micro SIM (are they
> really so space-constrained in there that they had to do that?)
> won't fit in any existing phone so even that's out now.


other phones will be getting the micro sims too. you think only apple
will be using it?

> And what are you supposed to do if you travel overseas with your nice,
> unlocked iPad? Will there now be how-to videos on how to cut up
> a standard-size SIM card from the overseas carrier to fit in the teeny
> holder, like the iPhone battery replacement videos of old?


overseas carriers already are using micro sims.

> I can't quite figure out why the world's biggest iPhone just
> had to have the world's smallest SIM card.


same reason other future gsm phones will be using them. newer, better,
does more, probably cheaper too.

> There might be
> an ongoing theme here, though. Unless I've missed something
> I noticed, for example, that if you go out and pay full price
> for an unlocked, carrier-free iPhone, and then go out and pay
> top dollar for a tethering data plan, you still don't get to
> tether your iPhone unless the carrier is one of those which Apple
> has graciously allowed to grease Apple's palm with kickbacks;
> with a non-iPhone carrier's SIM the tethering menus never seem
> to appear no matter what data plan you have and how much you paid
> for the phone. I guess picking a non-standard "standard" for the
> SIM, no doubt initially available only from special carriers with
> special Apple-approved data plans, is an even more effective method
> than just defeaturing the device to encourage you to do what Apple
> wants with your purchase, rather than what you'd like?


wow. talk about conspiracy theories.

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Old 01-28-2010, 08:20 AM
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On 2010-01-28, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <slrnhm2dh2.5c.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com>, Dennis
> Ferguson <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> At least with the iPhone, if you are desperate to do this anyway you
>> can always take the SIM out of it and put it in another phone with fewer
>> constraints. The iPad's new, improved teeny tiny micro SIM (are they
>> really so space-constrained in there that they had to do that?)
>> won't fit in any existing phone so even that's out now.

>
> other phones will be getting the micro sims too. you think only apple
> will be using it?


I notice we've changed the topic from "existing" to "sci fi". I'm
sure there will be devices which use it, since ETSI spent years
developing it, it is just really inconvenient to be on the bleeding
edge for no reason in particular.

>> And what are you supposed to do if you travel overseas with your nice,
>> unlocked iPad? Will there now be how-to videos on how to cut up
>> a standard-size SIM card from the overseas carrier to fit in the teeny
>> holder, like the iPhone battery replacement videos of old?

>
> overseas carriers already are using micro sims.


I'm overseas from you and none of the 5 carriers here use them
now. You're overseas from me and none of the carriers there
do either. I'm sure it'll all be fine eventually, but for now
either we'll need a list of places not to visit with the iPad
or we'll need the how-to video.

>> I can't quite figure out why the world's biggest iPhone just
>> had to have the world's smallest SIM card.

>
> same reason other future gsm phones will be using them. newer, better,
> does more, probably cheaper too.


Um, you realize the only difference between the mini cards and
the micro cards is the size? If this weren't true there'd be
no explanation for, e.g., this:

http://senseapplied.com/wp-content/u...1_03138_01.jpg

I'm not sure the price of cardboard is ever going to be high enough
to make a big price difference, if it were they wouldn't still be
supplying current mini SIMs as a punch-out from a 1FF card, the remainder
of which you toss away....

>> There might be
>> an ongoing theme here, though. Unless I've missed something
>> I noticed, for example, that if you go out and pay full price
>> for an unlocked, carrier-free iPhone, and then go out and pay
>> top dollar for a tethering data plan, you still don't get to
>> tether your iPhone unless the carrier is one of those which Apple
>> has graciously allowed to grease Apple's palm with kickbacks;
>> with a non-iPhone carrier's SIM the tethering menus never seem
>> to appear no matter what data plan you have and how much you paid
>> for the phone. I guess picking a non-standard "standard" for the
>> SIM, no doubt initially available only from special carriers with
>> special Apple-approved data plans, is an even more effective method
>> than just defeaturing the device to encourage you to do what Apple
>> wants with your purchase, rather than what you'd like?

>
> wow. talk about conspiracy theories.


Seems to be a common one, e.g.

http://apcmag.com/card-tricks-why-ap...o-the-ipad.htm

I notice you didn't correct me about tethering data plans on
non-iPhone carriers either, so you've offered nothing to keep
me from thinking I might be batting 1000.

Dennis Ferguson

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In article <slrnhm2lmv.5c.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com>, Dennis
Ferguson <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote:

> >> There might be
> >> an ongoing theme here, though. Unless I've missed something
> >> I noticed, for example, that if you go out and pay full price
> >> for an unlocked, carrier-free iPhone, and then go out and pay
> >> top dollar for a tethering data plan, you still don't get to
> >> tether your iPhone unless the carrier is one of those which Apple
> >> has graciously allowed to grease Apple's palm with kickbacks;
> >> with a non-iPhone carrier's SIM the tethering menus never seem
> >> to appear no matter what data plan you have and how much you paid
> >> for the phone. I guess picking a non-standard "standard" for the
> >> SIM, no doubt initially available only from special carriers with
> >> special Apple-approved data plans, is an even more effective method
> >> than just defeaturing the device to encourage you to do what Apple
> >> wants with your purchase, rather than what you'd like?

> >
> > wow. talk about conspiracy theories.

>
> Seems to be a common one, e.g.
>
> http://apcmag.com/card-tricks-why-ap...o-the-ipad.htm


that's just one person's opinion, hardly 'common.'

go ask steve or phil directly and see what the answer is. maybe there's
a really good reason for it. maybe there isn't. but since nobody
outside of apple actually knows why, people like to come up with
conspiracy theories, instead.

> I notice you didn't correct me about tethering data plans on
> non-iPhone carriers either, so you've offered nothing to keep
> me from thinking I might be batting 1000.


it's unlocked. did you miss that part??

if apple wanted to restrict it to apple-approved carriers, why would
they make it unlocked at all? or did that not cross your mind?

being unlocked, it will work on other carriers out of the box, no
jailbreaking hacks, no sim shim hacks, no any other hack to circumvent
a carrier lock. steve even said in the keynote it will most likely work
with international carrier's sims once it starts shipping, before they
offer their official plans. another oops in the conspiracy theories.

it's not even going to ship for 3 months (the 3g one anyway), which is
a shitload of time for other carriers to start distributing micro sims
and lining up plans.

tethering is entirely up to the *carrier*, not apple, and it would not
surprise me if at&t still didn't offer tethering when it does ship. i'm
sure t-mobile usa is seeing some serious potential revenue, especially
with all of the animosity towards at&t. the only glitch there is their
oddball 3g band, but maybe they'll price it accordingly.

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Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <6O6dnXWeD4HFaf3WnZ2dnUVZ_ohi4p2d@speakeasy.net> ,
> News <News@Groups.Name> wrote:
>
>> Michelle Steiner wrote:
>>> In article <Xns9D0DCF1A42ED8noonehomecom@74.209.131.13>,
>>> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Come to think of it, you are to Jews like Fred
>>>>> Phelps is to Jews.
>>>>>
>>>> Thank you rabbi.....
>>> Hey, Larrykins, I'm not Jewish. Even a dumb**** Jew-hater like you should
>>> be able to understand that.
>>>

>>
>> Stuff a maxiPad in it.

>
> Don't tell me that you hate Jews too, just like Larry.
>



Can't speak for Larry.

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On Jan 27, 3:11*pm, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
> salgud wrote:
> > On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:32:02 -0500, iPhone &iPad News wrote:

>
> >> Apple's new iPad has a starting price of $499!!!

>
> >> INCLUDES:

>
> >> 802.11n
> >> Free AT&T Wifi
> >> 3G from AT&T
> >> *$15 for 250MB
> >> *$30 for unlimited
> >> *no contract (cancel at anytime)

>
> >>http://twitpic.com/101c8h

>
> > The $499 does NOT include 3G, it's wifi only. For 3G, $130 extra.

>
> Still, forgetting about the initial cost, $30/month for unlimited 3G
> data (not 5G is a pretty good deal. You can run a VOIP app and use it
> as a phone too (at least where there's 3G coverage available). Perhaps
> someone will figure out how to tether it as well.
>
> The problem with netbooks (or laptops for that matter) is that if you
> want 3G data on them you're paying $60 a month for 5GB. While something
> like a dual-booting Dell Mini10V with Snow Leopard installed is a more
> appealing platform in some ways (including price and expandability) than
> a tablet, not many people are going to go through that rigmarole, and
> pay $60 a month for data.
>
> The eBook capability is another great feature. This is _really_ going to
> hurt sales of the Kindle and the Sony eBook readers, as well as the sale
> of content. Unless those companies want to sell their eBook readers for
> $100-150, they're history.
>
> I shudder to think of the effect that the iPad is going to have on
> AT&T's 3G network if it's as successful as analysts predict. $30 a month
> for unlimited data! Keep it in your car and stream music from Pandora to
> * your car receiver over Bluetooth (or analog audio) unless that's
> forbidden by the TOS (well given AT&T's 3G network, maybe audio
> streaming isn't the greatest idea).
>
> Too bad they did not include a camera on it. Maybe on the next rev.
>
> Good job Apple! It's great to see a U.S. company getting things right in
> consumer electronics.


I expect additional versions of the iPad/iPhone in a May/June time
frame that will add even more capabilities including making it a full
blown iPhone.

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iPad 3G another AT&T exclusive! wrote:
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> I expect additional versions of the iPad/iPhone in a May/June time
> frame that will add even more capabilities including making it a full
> blown iPhone.




Yeah, just imagine.... Holding that drinks tray up to your ear.

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On Jan 27, 6:39*pm, Larry <no...@home.com> wrote:
> "Your Name" <your.n...@isp.com> wrote innews:hjq5tr$fle$1@lust.ihug.co.nz:
>
> > being able to watch movies better.

>
> No it won't. *It doesn't have the codecs to play any movies but the same
> ****** ones iPhone/iTouch plays and there is no way of loading other codecs
> like Realmedia, Windows media, DivX, XviD, OGG, etc., codecs onto it.
>
> You'll be stuck with the same ****** conversion-to-ipad nonsense iPhoners
> hate and forced to use Nanny Itunes to load it to make sure Apple is in
> control.
>
> The hang-on SD card reader SAYS it will IMPORT pictures and videos. *Does
> that mean it will convert on-the-fly from a DivX movie to something the
> iShit can read? *Wanna bet?.....(d^


Larry

No one but you cares about DivX anymore. HandBreak dropped support for
it in the latest upgrade, why?
Newer formats are better. When ripping a DVD it is a simple matter to
use the newest MP4 or MKV formats.
All the new 2010 IPTV players decode that, few if any bother with
Divix or any of the other antiquated ones you plea for.

Divix is outdated doggie doo, see recent SLASHDOT discussion on this
were geeks put it to rest. Flash is on its way out too as Google
switches YouTube to HTML5 compatible MP4 video. Another huge video web
site just dropped flash. Flash is a dead end and dying technology.
Apple is about the here and now and the future not the past. That is
why they are so far ahead of all the others who can not design fast
enough to catch up.

Larry you are living in the past like some urban cracker who doesn't
keep up and still has eight track tapes in his car.

BTW

* The MP4 format can also be optimized for "fast start"
progressive downloads over the Web. It can also include "soft" text
subtitles that can be turned on or off, instead of always being hard
burned into the video frames.

* In an MKV, you can store MPEG-4 video created by ffmpeg or x264,
or Theora video. It stores audio in the AAC, MP3, or Vorbis formats.
It can also pass through the Dolby Digital 5.1 (AC3) and Digital
Theater Systems (DTS) surround sound formats used by DVDs. It supports
chapters, as well as Variable Frame Rate video. It can include "soft"
subtitles that can be turned on or off, instead of always being hard
burned into the video frame. These can either be bitmap images of the
subtitles included on a DVD (known as vobsub) or text.

* Divix and that other obsolete stuff you crave can't do those
things.

Larry get a life.

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In article <ZO98n.14507$3W2.9050@newsfe14.iad>,
Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:

> At 27 Jan 2010 17:53:52 -0700 Michelle Steiner wrote:
>
> > Oh, by the way concerning your rant about eBooks: The iPad uses the
> > ePub format, which is a free, open, and non-proprietary format.
> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPUB>

>
>
> I'll be interesting to see what Apple uses for DRM. If they use the
> existing Adobe ADEPT system, like Sony, then iPad users could take
> advantage of the wealth of public libraries who lend ePub books via the
> Overdive DRM system, which expire and become unreadable after the lending
> period is over.
>
> Of course, if iPad supports ADEPT, you'd also be able to purchase ePub
> content outside of iBooks/Tunes, so I don't quite picture that
> happening...


Well, you can already buy music from Amazon and other places and play it
on the iPod or iPhone, so it's not like there isn't precedent.

--
Tom "Tom" Harrington
Independent Mac OS X developer since 2002
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