I plugged an old (2004?) blue AT&T SIM card (8931-0380-....) into my
Samsung SGH-i617, and voice calls work!
(both phones are locked for AT&T)
The old service (mMode) is a family plan, costs less (considering 2
lines of service), and has unlimited text messaging, which I don't
have with my new service (unlimited PDA data plan).
Would I be losing anything significant (compared to the new AT&T 3G
SIM card in the Blackjack2) if I use the old SIM card and add an
unlimited data plan to it?
> Would I be losing anything significant (compared to the new AT&T 3G
> SIM card in the Blackjack2) if I use the old SIM card and add an
> unlimited data plan to it?
According to the sales guy at my local AT&T owned store, the iPhone
ships with a SIM card already installed, and they will not sell the
phone without the iPhone Plan to go with it.
Technically speaking, you might not be able to make use of 3G services
with a non-3G SIM.
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On 2008-07-09, taxenqs@yahoo.com <taxenqs@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I plugged an old (2004?) blue AT&T SIM card (8931-0380-....) into my
> Samsung SGH-i617, and voice calls work!
> (both phones are locked for AT&T)
> The old service (mMode) is a family plan, costs less (considering 2
> lines of service), and has unlimited text messaging, which I don't
> have with my new service (unlimited PDA data plan).
>
> Would I be losing anything significant (compared to the new AT&T 3G
> SIM card in the Blackjack2) if I use the old SIM card and add an
> unlimited data plan to it?
I'd be surprised if that card will do 3G. 3G authentication requires
a separate application on the card (the "USIM"), and Cingular
orange cards didn't support it prior to the 64k versions so I
doubt that the blue cards did either.
You could maybe determine this if your Blackjack has a 3G-only
network menu setting (though AT&T often deletes those menus from their
phones).
Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
> Previously on alt.cellular.attws, taxenqs@yahoo.com said:
>
>> Would I be losing anything significant (compared to the new AT&T 3G
>> SIM card in the Blackjack2) if I use the old SIM card and add an
>> unlimited data plan to it?
>
> According to the sales guy at my local AT&T owned store, the iPhone
> ships with a SIM card already installed, and they will not sell the
> phone without the iPhone Plan to go with it.
The original poster said nothing about the iPhone. He was asking about
3G service, not the 3G iPhone. In fact, he specifically called out the
BLACKJACK!
Previously on alt.cellular.attws, Beer Drinking Dog said:
> The original poster said nothing about the iPhone. He was asking about
> 3G service, not the 3G iPhone. In fact, he specifically called out the
> BLACKJACK!
You're right. Why did I see iPhone, when it wasn't there? I must have
iPhone on the brane. My apologies.
The voice service will probably work, but I don't know about the data.
The old SIM doesn't support 3G. Whether or not it will fall back to
EDGE would probably depend on the hardware.
If he buys the phone from an AT&T store, they will almost certainly
check his SIM and as a matter of course "give" him a new one along with
a new service plan contract. They will probably refuse to sell a 3G
phone without a 3G SIM.
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listening to repetitive music." -- Marcus Brigstocke
All phones nowadays are installed with a 3G sim.
I traded my phone for a day with a friend to see if I liked his phone.
He does not have any data package on his phone. His sim had the 3G logo on
it.
"Jeffrey Kaplan" <nomail@gordol.org> wrote in message
news:q9pa741cee8150djpa1g31she6h067nu04@gordol.org ...
> Previously on alt.cellular.attws, Beer Drinking Dog said:
>
>> The original poster said nothing about the iPhone. He was asking about
>> 3G service, not the 3G iPhone. In fact, he specifically called out the
>> BLACKJACK!
>
> You're right. Why did I see iPhone, when it wasn't there? I must have
> iPhone on the brane. My apologies.
>
> The voice service will probably work, but I don't know about the data.
> The old SIM doesn't support 3G. Whether or not it will fall back to
> EDGE would probably depend on the hardware.
>
> If he buys the phone from an AT&T store, they will almost certainly
> check his SIM and as a matter of course "give" him a new one along with
> a new service plan contract. They will probably refuse to sell a 3G
> phone without a 3G SIM.
>
> --
> Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
> The from userid is killfiled Send personal mail to gordol
>
> "Computer games don't affect kids, I mean if Pac Man affected us as
> kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching pills and
> listening to repetitive music." -- Marcus Brigstocke
Kevin Weaver wrote:
> All phones nowadays are installed with a 3G sim.
> I traded my phone for a day with a friend to see if I liked his phone.
> He does not have any data package on his phone. His sim had the 3G logo
> on it.
My non-3G phone has a sim chip in it that says 3G on it also. I bought
it a little over a year ago. ;-) I assumed it was just AT&T
standardizing on a single inventory item.
The company I work for makes a certain type of electrical game--we do
the same thing. Regardless of the specific features the customer wants,
we tend to build only one type of item and it's configured during
install. That way we have fewer supply chain problems by having too many
parts that are all sort of the same. Instead of buying a couple thousand
of part A, a couple thousand of part B, etc., we designed a single part
that does the function of part A and B, etc., and only have to stock one
part. And we get a huge discount from our supplier by buying tens of
thousands of the single part.
Larry wrote:
> Beer Drinking Dog <photodoglv@yahoo.com> wrote in news:5Ufdk.1845$tN1.634
> @newsfe14.phx:
>
>> The company I work for makes a certain type of electrical game
>
> I'm shocked!
>
> Sorry....couldn't help myself...(c;
LOL... I meant "electronic" but after a day of typing up work reports,
I'm a little brain dead tonight.
> All phones nowadays are installed with a 3G sim.
> I traded my phone for a day with a friend to see if I liked his phone.
> He does not have any data package on his phone. His sim had the 3G logo on
> it.
yes, even all 2.5G iphones have a 3G sim card installed.
Beer Drinking Dog <photodoglv@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:lpgdk.18572$YO1.8661@newsfe08.phx:
> Larry wrote:
>> Beer Drinking Dog <photodoglv@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:5Ufdk.1845$tN1.634 @newsfe14.phx:
>>
>>> The company I work for makes a certain type of electrical game
>>
>> I'm shocked!
>>
>> Sorry....couldn't help myself...(c;
>
> LOL... I meant "electronic" but after a day of typing up work reports,
> I'm a little brain dead tonight.
>
Yecch...paperwork. Why do we work so hard to convert forests into paper
waste? I feel your pain...(c;
On Jul 9, 8:23*am, Jeffrey Kaplan <nom...@gordol.org> wrote:
> Previously on alt.cellular.attws, taxe...@yahoo.com said:
>
> > Would I be losing anything significant (compared to the new AT&T 3G
> > SIM card in the Blackjack2) if I use the old SIM card and add an
> > unlimited data plan to it?
>
> Technically speaking, you might not be able to make use of 3G services
> with a non-3G SIM.
I am trying to keep the cheaper AT&T plan with unlimited text
messaging, but use the BlackJack2 phone's PDA features and have
unlimited internet access.
3G speed is not critical to me when I am mobile.
I am more concerned about battery life when I am mobile.
(I have been playing with bandsel.exe on my BlackJack2 to try to shut
off 3G, with no success)
My guess is AT&T will not allow me to add any new service feature to
the (very) old plan, and coerce me to move to a new plan.
Larry wrote:
> Beer Drinking Dog <photodoglv@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:lpgdk.18572$YO1.8661@newsfe08.phx:
>
>> Larry wrote:
>>> Beer Drinking Dog <photodoglv@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>> news:5Ufdk.1845$tN1.634 @newsfe14.phx:
>>>
>>>> The company I work for makes a certain type of electrical game
>>> I'm shocked!
>>>
>>> Sorry....couldn't help myself...(c;
>> LOL... I meant "electronic" but after a day of typing up work reports,
>> I'm a little brain dead tonight.
>>
>
> Yecch...paperwork. Why do we work so hard to convert forests into paper
> waste? I feel your pain...(c;
>
It only wasted trees if the people I e-mailed it to printed it. When it
left my hands, it was still only a set of Microsoft Word documents.
Entirely recyclable electrons. But it was still a pain to write.
Something like 20 pages of explaining how we ended up sending a
corrupted file to a regulator.
Old SIM in new 3G phone 
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