Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
iMojo <iadvocate@macs.net> wrote:
> In its first full quarter of sales, the iPhone has already climbed past
> Microsoft¹s entire lineup of Windows Mobile smartphones in North
> America, according to figures compiled by Canalys and published by
> Symbian. That puts the iPhone ahead of smartphones running Symbian,
> Linux, and the Palm OS, but behind the first place RIM BlackBerry. The
> figures mesh with retail sales data already reported by NPD, which
> similarly described the size of the US market with a 27% chunk bit out
> by Apple¹s iPhone.
>
> Read more:
> http://tinyurl.com/39lrju
no massive surprise. apple has built the fist usable phone on the web,
and has now taken over in 6 months.
we all knew apple was going to do that about a year ago...
just shows how powerful apple's engineering is / how weak cell handset
makers are against their first serious competition in 40 years.
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
"O x f o r d" <iphone@superphone.com> wrote in message
news:iphone-C1143F.17482814122007@mpls-nnrp-03.inet.qwest.net...
> iMojo <iadvocate@macs.net> wrote:
>
>> In its first full quarter of sales, the iPhone has already climbed past
>> Microsoft¹s entire lineup of Windows Mobile smartphones in North
>> America, according to figures compiled by Canalys and published by
>> Symbian. That puts the iPhone ahead of smartphones running Symbian,
>> Linux, and the Palm OS, but behind the first place RIM BlackBerry. The
>> figures mesh with retail sales data already reported by NPD, which
>> similarly described the size of the US market with a 27% chunk bit out
>> by Apple¹s iPhone.
>>
>> Read more:
>> http://tinyurl.com/39lrju
>
> no massive surprise. apple has built the fist usable phone on the web,
> and has now taken over in 6 months.
>
> we all knew apple was going to do that about a year ago...
>
> just shows how powerful apple's engineering is / how weak cell handset
> makers are against their first serious competition in 40 years.
>
> -
Especially when pitted against one of the biggest pieces of junk to come
along in years - Blackberry. The "phone" used by terchnical incompetents
like Muahman.
Doesn’t natively support push business email or over-the-air calendar
sync. …
Doesn’t accommodate third-party applications, including those internally
developed. …
Doesn’t support securing data on the device through encryption.
Can’t be remotely locked or wiped in the event of a lost or stolen device. …
Lacks a hard keypad that provides feedback, which isn’t ideal for rapid and
accurate input. …
Has limited service provider support and its carrier lock-in inhibits
flexibility. …
Comes with a premium price tag. …
Is only the first generation. …
Lacks a removable battery, so when the battery kicks it, so does the
device. …
Lacks case studies of firms that have deployed it enterprisewide. …
"O x f o r d" <iphone@superphone.com> wrote in message
news:iphone-C1143F.17482814122007@mpls-nnrp-03.inet.qwest.net...
> iMojo <iadvocate@macs.net> wrote:
>
>> In its first full quarter of sales, the iPhone has already climbed past
>> Microsoft¹s entire lineup of Windows Mobile smartphones in North
>> America, according to figures compiled by Canalys and published by
>> Symbian. That puts the iPhone ahead of smartphones running Symbian,
>> Linux, and the Palm OS, but behind the first place RIM BlackBerry. The
>> figures mesh with retail sales data already reported by NPD, which
>> similarly described the size of the US market with a 27% chunk bit out
>> by Apple¹s iPhone.
>>
>> Read more:
>> http://tinyurl.com/39lrju
>
> no massive surprise. apple has built the fist usable phone on the web,
> and has now taken over in 6 months.
>
> we all knew apple was going to do that about a year ago...
>
> just shows how powerful apple's engineering is / how weak cell handset
> makers are against their first serious competition in 40 years.
>
> -
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
Ness-Net wrote:
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=7348&tag=nl.e622
>
> http://apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.com...rt-the-iphone/
>
>
> Doesn’t natively support push business email or over-the-air calendar
> sync. …
>
> Doesn’t accommodate third-party applications, including those internally
> developed. …
>
> Doesn’t support securing data on the device through encryption.
>
> Can’t be remotely locked or wiped in the event of a lost or stolen
> device. …
>
> Lacks a hard keypad that provides feedback, which isn’t ideal for rapid
> and accurate input. …
>
> Has limited service provider support and its carrier lock-in inhibits
> flexibility. …
>
> Comes with a premium price tag. …
>
> Is only the first generation. …
>
> Lacks a removable battery, so when the battery kicks it, so does the
> device. …
>
> Lacks case studies of firms that have deployed it enterprisewide. …
>
>
> "O x f o r d" <iphone@superphone.com> wrote in message
> news:iphone-C1143F.17482814122007@mpls-nnrp-03.inet.qwest.net...
>> iMojo <iadvocate@macs.net> wrote:
>>
>>> In its first full quarter of sales, the iPhone has already climbed past
>>> Microsoft¹s entire lineup of Windows Mobile smartphones in North
>>> America, according to figures compiled by Canalys and published by
>>> Symbian. That puts the iPhone ahead of smartphones running Symbian,
>>> Linux, and the Palm OS, but behind the first place RIM BlackBerry. The
>>> figures mesh with retail sales data already reported by NPD, which
>>> similarly described the size of the US market with a 27% chunk bit out
>>> by Apple¹s iPhone.
>>>
>>> Read more:
>>> http://tinyurl.com/39lrju
>>
>> no massive surprise. apple has built the fist usable phone on the web,
>> and has now taken over in 6 months.
>>
>> we all knew apple was going to do that about a year ago...
>>
>> just shows how powerful apple's engineering is / how weak cell handset
>> makers are against their first serious competition in 40 years.
>>
>> -
>
JEALOUSY
> I think others call it penis envy. He must feel very insecure.
>
> I am posting this using Apple touch screen.
>
>
Cool! I'm posting this from my Nokia folding BT keyboard on my Nokia
N800 Linux Tablet using the Maemo port of rdesktop remotely
controlling WinXP on one of my Windoze boxes on my LAN at home over
the free wifi at Linda's Restaurant eating Shrimp 'n Grits, a
Southern delecacy from the SC Shrimpers scraping the sand offshore
this very morning. Yum Yum...
Look at the header and you'll find I'm remotely controlling old Xnews
which is really cool....(c
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
Larry wrote:
> 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:33643959-4831-4df7-8067-
> bea2b7e3cdac@b1g2000pra.googlegroups.com:
>
>> I think others call it penis envy. He must feel very insecure.
>>
>> I am posting this using Apple touch screen.
>>
>>
>
> Cool! I'm posting this from my Nokia folding BT keyboard on my Nokia
> N800 Linux Tablet using the Maemo port of rdesktop remotely
> controlling WinXP on one of my Windoze boxes on my LAN at home over
> the free wifi at Linda's Restaurant eating Shrimp 'n Grits, a
> Southern delecacy from the SC Shrimpers scraping the sand offshore
> this very morning. Yum Yum...
>
> Look at the header and you'll find I'm remotely controlling old Xnews
> which is really cool....(c
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
In article <fk1at5$24m$7@aioe.org>, nospamatall <nospamatall@iol.ie>
wrote:
> Larry wrote:
> > 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:33643959-4831-4df7-8067-
> > bea2b7e3cdac@b1g2000pra.googlegroups.com:
> >
> >> I think others call it penis envy. He must feel very insecure.
> >>
> >> I am posting this using Apple touch screen.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Cool! I'm posting this from my Nokia folding BT keyboard on my Nokia
> > N800 Linux Tablet using the Maemo port of rdesktop remotely
> > controlling WinXP on one of my Windoze boxes on my LAN at home over
> > the free wifi at Linda's Restaurant eating Shrimp 'n Grits, a
> > Southern delecacy from the SC Shrimpers scraping the sand offshore
> > this very morning. Yum Yum...
> >
> > Look at the header and you'll find I'm remotely controlling old Xnews
> > which is really cool....(c
>
> The first one sounded a lot easier.
> > Larry
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
nospamatall <nospamatall@iol.ie> wrote in news:fk1at5$24m$7@aioe.org:
>
> The first one sounded a lot easier.
>> Larry
>
Setup took 20 minutes. Logon from the N800 is two cliicks, one to
boot rdesktop from the Linux GUI and one to select which machine I
want to select. Real pain.
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
Larry wrote:
> nospamatall <nospamatall@iol.ie> wrote in news:fk1at5$24m$7@aioe.org:
>
>> The first one sounded a lot easier.
>>> Larry
>
> Setup took 20 minutes. Logon from the N800 is two cliicks, one to
> boot rdesktop from the Linux GUI and one to select which machine I
> want to select. Real pain.
>
> Larry
I don't want a iPhone, but I do want it to succeed. Not because I want
apple to succeed, I have no shares in them and I only care that they
continue to produce computers I can use (I sopse iPhone success is tied
in with that now...).
But I can see some cellphone company master demon slobbering and
grunting in his cave over some horrible device with loads of buttons and
words in an obscure language, muttering 'one day, all phones will be
like thissss', and his counterpart in cupertino waving an iPhone around
saying the same thing. I know who I want to win. And the others are
already changing, so that's good!
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
nospamatall <nospamatall@iol.ie> wrote in news:fk1t4l$mar$1@aioe.org:
> I know who I want to win.
I know who I want to win, too. I want the gummit bureaucrats to quit
taking bribes from the telecom fatcats who are doing everything they can do
to stop Wifi rollout, which threatens their shitty little SELLphone data
service ripoff.
It'll never happen...just like the rest of the media business with gummit
under their thumbs and the public taking it up the a$$.
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
John wrote:
> "O x f o r d" <iphone@superphone.com> wrote in message
>
> Especially when pitted against one of the biggest pieces of junk to
> come along in years - Blackberry. The "phone" used by terchnical
> incompetents like Muahman.
>
Aw, and I just got my first Blackberry. I'll put myself in this position: I
am not a "technical incompetent" (I am a licensed Ham Radio operator as well
as a commercially licensed radio operator, as well as an early -1980-
computer user, fairly literate at it) and I LOVE my new BB Pearl.
"Biggest pieces of junk"? I don't think so. This little beauty does
everything it's supposed to do and does them well. My only complaint is that
they didn't throw WiFi into it too. By the way, I am not a business user of
email either, though the BB serves certain business related purposes for me.
Do I want an iPhone? You bet. I love the unparalleled touch-screen
technology of it. And the way it presents the internet. And that it has WiFi
besides wireless access. But, do I like that it's actually just an overly
sophisticated iPod with a phone in it? No. Do I like its cumbersome (albeit
very thin) size for a phone to carry around? No.
You want an excellent phone with an extensive address book and calendar
which is unobtrusive to carry around? Not an iPhone. You want a great,
though large, iPod with a compromised phone in it? The iPhone is your guy.
I'm considering keeping my BB and getting an iTouch to play around with,
which does the "good" stuff that the iPhone does, but without the
unnecessary phone/data contract, the iPhone's weak spot..
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
> and no, Oxford, IMAP isn't a
> replacement for true Exchange/BES access
Huh...why not? With imap idle, it should be -- though the iphone doesn't
support imap idle, so this point is somewhat irrelevant to the current
discussion.
> Lacks case studies of firms that have deployed it enterprisewide. Š
It's an iPod with phone features. Why do so many people seem to think
it's targeted a the enterprise e-mail market? The above points are about
as relevant as noting that a Blackberry doesn't sync with iTunes.
--
"That's George Washington, the first president, of course. The interesting thing
about him is that I read three--three or four books about him last year. Isn't
that interesting?"
- George W. Bush to reporter Kai Diekmann, May 5, 2006
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
Larry wrote:
> I know who I want to win, too. I want the gummit bureaucrats to quit
> taking bribes from the telecom fatcats who are doing everything they can do
> to stop Wifi rollout, which threatens their shitty little SELLphone data
> service ripoff.
Of course you mean muni-WiFi. The cellular providers were trying to
squash muni-WiFi, but considering how many muni-WiFi providers are
discovering its a failed model; I don't think many cellular providers
have that on their radar scopes anymore.
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
At 16 Dec 2007 04:57:08 +0000 none wrote:
> "Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
> > and no, Oxford, IMAP isn't a
> > replacement for true Exchange/BES access
>
> Huh...why not? With imap idle, it should be -- though the iphone doesn't
> support imap idle, so this point is somewhat irrelevant to the current
> discussion.
In theory, sure, but in the Real World (tm) you deal with what de facto
standards are in use. The business world is using Exchange and BES. So an
e-mail phone better support one or both, or you'll be carrying two phones-
one for playing your Hootie and the Blowfish MP3s, and one to get your
corporate e-mail...
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
Larry wrote:
> nospamatall <nospamatall@iol.ie> wrote in news:fk1t4l$mar$1@aioe.org:
>
>> I know who I want to win.
>
> I know who I want to win, too. I want the gummit bureaucrats to quit
> taking bribes from the telecom fatcats who are doing everything they can do
> to stop Wifi rollout, which threatens their shitty little SELLphone data
> service ripoff.
>
> It'll never happen...just like the rest of the media business with gummit
> under their thumbs and the public taking it up the a$$.
>
> Larry
So who should pay for the cost of designing/building/maintaining a
"free" nationwide WiFi network?
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in
news:5rSdnVr6JZT_tvjanZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d@comcast.com:
> Larry wrote:
>> nospamatall <nospamatall@iol.ie> wrote in news:fk1t4l$mar$1
@aioe.org:
>>
>>> I know who I want to win.
>>
>> I know who I want to win, too. I want the gummit bureaucrats to
quit
>> taking bribes from the telecom fatcats who are doing everything
they
>> can do to stop Wifi rollout, which threatens their shitty little
>> SELLphone data service ripoff.
>>
>> It'll never happen...just like the rest of the media business with
>> gummit under their thumbs and the public taking it up the a$$.
>>
>> Larry
>
> So who should pay for the cost of designing/building/maintaining a
> "free" nationwide WiFi network?
>
Same people who pay for any public UTILITY. Gas, electric, water,
sewer, no difference. What the DIFFERENCE is is the PUBLIC, who
vote, would have control over how it's run....not taking the shit
every SELLphone customer has to take with 5GB/month, no this, no that
like they get now.
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
Larry wrote:
>> So who should pay for the cost of designing/building/maintaining a
>> "free" nationwide WiFi network?
>>
>
> Same people who pay for any public UTILITY. Gas, electric, water,
> sewer, no difference. What the DIFFERENCE is is the PUBLIC, who
> vote, would have control over how it's run....not taking the shit
> every SELLphone customer has to take with 5GB/month, no this, no that
> like they get now.
>
> Larry
I see, maybe like the turnpike where it costs me an extra $0.07/mile to
drive on one of the crappiest roads around or maybe like the regional
public water authority that has one of the highest rates for water
service in the country?
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
"Ness-Net" <no.richard@damnspam.nessnet.com> wrote in message
news:fZednQisfYVtG_7anZ2dnUVZ_oOnnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=7348&tag=nl.e622
>
> http://apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.com...rt-the-iphone/
>
> Doesn’t natively support push business email or over-the-air calendar
> sync. …
>
> Doesn’t accommodate third-party applications, including those internally
> developed. …
>
> Doesn’t support securing data on the device through encryption.
>
> Can’t be remotely locked or wiped in the event of a lost or stolen
> device. …
>
> Lacks a hard keypad that provides feedback, which isn’t ideal for rapid
> and accurate input. …
>
> Has limited service provider support and its carrier lock-in inhibits
> flexibility. …
>
> Comes with a premium price tag. …
>
> Is only the first generation. …
>
> Lacks a removable battery, so when the battery kicks it, so does the
> device. …
>
> Lacks case studies of firms that have deployed it enterprisewide. …
Mostly true, but it isn't a PDA for business use, it's an iPod, quad-band
phone, and web browser. Comparing it to the Blackberry or other Windows
Mobile devices doesn't make all that much sense.
You left out three really strange features missing from the iPhone--wireless
syncing, voice dialing and support for stereo Bluetooth headphones. I'm sure
that these will be added in the next generation.
However, while the battery is not user-replaceable, you don't throw the
device away when you need a new battery. You either send it to Apple, or go
to a third-party provider that can replace it, or buy a kit and do it
yourself.
There are a lot of features Apple could add if they wanted to appeal to the
corporate market, including 3G, slideout keyboard, replaceable battery,
sync-capability to Outlook, Corporate Time, Yahoo and Google calendar, GPS,
3rd party application support,, MicroSD support, bluetooth Syncing, WiFi
syncing, etc., but that isn't their target market. They want to keep the
iPhone simple and easy to use, not turn it into another Blackberry.
The question for Apple is how to address stagnant sales. All over the world,
reports are pouring in about slowing sales. In the U.S., they raised the
limit from two to five when they decided that they'd at least like to sell
more hardware, even without the AT&T revenue. In Germany it's been almost a
total flop, with T-Mobile selling only about 700 per day (mainly due to the
lack of 3G because much of Germany has no EDGE network, and using the iPhone
on GPRS is very painful). With iPhone sales stalled, it's likely the the 2nd
generation iPhone will address some of the missing features. In the UK sales
have been slow. The problem for Apple is that the iPhone is six months old,
and that's a generation in terms of phones. There are already many new
devices that have more features and ease of use that is almost as good,
though they all lack one key advantage of the iPhone, and that's the huge
amount of internal flash.
Personally I don't think the price is "premium" considering you can buy it
with no contract required. An 8GB iPod Nano cost $190. A quad-band unlocked
GSM phone costs about $180. You're up to $370 already, without a web-browser
and WiFi. So if you were going to buy these two devices anyway, the iPhone
isn't outrageously priced. I know two people (other than Apple employees and
spouses) with iPhones, both are using them on T-Mobile, and 19% of the
iPhones sold have not been activated on AT&T. That's nearly 1 in 5 iPhones
that have presumably been unlocked and are being used on other networks.
An iPhone costs $400 plus another $30-35 if you want it unlocked, which is
not unreasonable compared to the cost of other unlocked smart phones.
In short, the iPhone is neither as bad as some of its detractors claim, nor
as wonderful as the fan-boys like Oxford would like people to believe. As
with most technology devices, you don't want to run out and buy the first
version because invariably there will be missing features.
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
Larry wrote:
> George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in
>> So who should pay for the cost of designing/building/maintaining a
>> "free" nationwide WiFi network?
>>
>
> Same people who pay for any public UTILITY. Gas, electric, water,
> sewer, no difference. What the DIFFERENCE is is the PUBLIC, who
> vote, would have control over how it's run....not taking the shit
> every SELLphone customer has to take with 5GB/month, no this, no that
> like they get now.
>
> Larry
Do you really think the public is going to pay for the foot print of a
24 dB fade margin deployment within the same foot print that cellular
companies provide?
Roughly 25 towers per square mile in the middle of a Kansas wheat field.
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
> In theory, sure, but in the Real World (tm) you deal with what de facto
> standards are in use. The business world is using Exchange and BES.
Anything that tends to push the world away from proprietary 'standards' is a
good thing, IMO.
> most corporations and certainly
> government agencies aren't going to open up IMAP access so their employees
> can run around with iPhones
Maybe not, but they might do it so they can integrate e-mail and calendars
with the rest of their intranet apps using something like Zimbra.
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
In article <fk2sj9$198$3@aioe.org>,
Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
> At 16 Dec 2007 04:57:08 +0000 none wrote:
> > "Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
> > > and no, Oxford, IMAP isn't a
> > > replacement for true Exchange/BES access
> >
> > Huh...why not? With imap idle, it should be -- though the iphone doesn't
> > support imap idle, so this point is somewhat irrelevant to the current
> > discussion.
>
>
> In theory, sure, but in the Real World (tm) you deal with what de facto
> standards are in use. The business world is using Exchange and BES. So an
> e-mail phone better support one or both, or you'll be carrying two phones-
> one for playing your Hootie and the Blowfish MP3s, and one to get your
> corporate e-mail...
Good thing, then, that the iPhone is a media player phone, rather than
an e-mail phone.
--
"That's George Washington, the first president, of course. The interesting thing
about him is that I read three--three or four books about him last year. Isn't
that interesting?"
- George W. Bush to reporter Kai Diekmann, May 5, 2006
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in
news:goadnarvYsAP0vjanZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@comcast.com:
> I see, maybe like the turnpike where it costs me an extra
$0.07/mile to
> drive on one of the crappiest roads around or maybe like the
regional
> public water authority that has one of the highest rates for water
> service in the country?
>
>
.....And, what,specifically, havee YOU done to change what you don't
like...besides bitch at me about it?
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote in news:qgc9j.6130$Dt4.2398
@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net:
> Larry wrote:
>> George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in
>>> So who should pay for the cost of designing/building/maintaining
a
>>> "free" nationwide WiFi network?
>>>
>>
>> Same people who pay for any public UTILITY. Gas, electric, water,
>> sewer, no difference. What the DIFFERENCE is is the PUBLIC, who
>> vote, would have control over how it's run....not taking the shit
>> every SELLphone customer has to take with 5GB/month, no this, no
that
>> like they get now.
>>
>> Larry
>
> Do you really think the public is going to pay for the foot print
of a
> 24 dB fade margin deployment within the same foot print that
cellular
> companies provide?
>
> Roughly 25 towers per square mile in the middle of a Kansas wheat
field.
>
Nope. SELLular doesn't have that kind of signal in Kansas wheat
fields, either. Hell, ATT has NO signal in rural SC.
Your extreme argument, is absurd. MUNICIPLE wifi will go in where
the voters want it.
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
Larry wrote:
> George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in
> news:goadnarvYsAP0vjanZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@comcast.com:
>
>> I see, maybe like the turnpike where it costs me an extra
> $0.07/mile to
>> drive on one of the crappiest roads around or maybe like the
> regional
>> public water authority that has one of the highest rates for water
>> service in the country?
>>
>>
>
> ....And, what,specifically, havee YOU done to change what you don't
> like...besides bitch at me about it?
>
> Nothing?
>
> Larry
Vote for the people who say they want less government and vote to fire
those who don't and always contact their offices to let them know how I
think they are doing.
The last thing I want is for the government to pull more money out of my
and other taxpayers pockets so you can have "free" wireless.
You may thing your current "sellphone" thing is cute but it makes you
look silly because most people realize the government could never do a
better job and it wouldn't be "free".
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
In article <r9qdnZbblKUvXvjanZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> You may thing your current "sellphone" thing is cute but it makes you
> look silly because most people realize the government could never do a
> better job and it wouldn't be "free".
Not to mention, he uses that "SELLphone" thing in his postings because
he uses Verizon, which does sell every little feature on the phone--and
he thinks that every OTHER provider does it the same way, locking you
out of features unless you pony up a few bucks a month for the privilege.
In other words, larry is a few beers short of a six pack.
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 20:08:56 -0500, Ray Goldenberg
<ray@lighthousetravel.com> wrote:
>In article <r9qdnZbblKUvXvjanZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> You may thing your current "sellphone" thing is cute but it makes you
>> look silly because most people realize the government could never do a
>> better job and it wouldn't be "free".
>
>Not to mention, he uses that "SELLphone" thing in his postings because
>he uses Verizon,
Actually, he's a pissed off ex-VZW customer who now uses Alltel.
>
>In other words, larry is a few beers short of a six pack.
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
"Ray Goldenberg" <ray@lighthousetravel.com> wrote in message
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> In article <r9qdnZbblKUvXvjanZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> You may thing your current "sellphone" thing is cute but it makes you
>> look silly because most people realize the government could never do a
>> better job and it wouldn't be "free".
>
> Not to mention, he uses that "SELLphone" thing in his postings because
> he uses Verizon, which does sell every little feature on the phone--and
> he thinks that every OTHER provider does it the same way, locking you
> out of features unless you pony up a few bucks a month for the privilege.
>
> In other words, larry is a few beers short of a six pack.
>
>
Ray, it's well beyond that.....
Larry doesn't USE Verizon - he uses Alltel.
He just hangs out here to be a pain in the ass.
And bitch and be negative as much as possible.
(Then there are always the conspiracies and anti-Semitism)
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