Re: MobileMe | A new service for your iPhone and PC
On Jul 22, 8:47*am, Ron <roncliff...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:33:06 -0700 (PDT), 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >MobileMe
> >A new service for your iPhone, iPod touch, Mac, and PC
>
> >Look for MobileMe in your Microsoft Windows Control Panel on your PC.
>
> Never sawe the value in paying for another email service, when it has
> peported reliability issues.
>
> GMAIL is free, and email can now be pulled via a POP client, or their
> web client is excellent. Does a marvelous job of SPAM filtering too.
>
> Originally Apple also provided AntiVitus, then dropped that a few
> years back.
I agree. Gmail is very powerful, especially if you checkout its new
advanced features.
Re: MobileMe | A new service for your iPhone and PC
Ron wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:33:06 -0700 (PDT), 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> MobileMe
>> A new service for your iPhone, iPod touch, Mac, and PC
>>
>> Look for MobileMe in your Microsoft Windows Control Panel on your PC.
>
>
> Never sawe the value in paying for another email service, when it has
> peported reliability issues.
>
> GMAIL is free, and email can now be pulled via a POP client, or their
> web client is excellent. Does a marvelous job of SPAM filtering too.
>
> Originally Apple also provided AntiVitus, then dropped that a few
> years back.
>
Mobileme is not an email service. It's a push- service for coordinating
changes on all Apple devices at once, email, calendar, and address book.
It's actually a great idea, but currently a little expensive at $100/year.
Re: MobileMe | A new service for your iPhone and PC
"Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote in
news:4885ed19$0$20946$607ed4bc@cv.net:
> Mobileme is not an email service. It's a push- service for
> coordinating changes on all Apple devices at once, email, calendar,
> and address book. It's actually a great idea, but currently a little
> expensive at $100/year.
>
>
We "others" don't need a push client. Our computers are multitasking and
fully capable of checking all those services on their own without the
browser push crapware.....
Re: MobileMe | A new service for your iPhone and PC
On Jul 22, 10:22*am, "Carl" <croth...@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:
> Mobileme is not an email service. It's a push- service for coordinating
> changes on all Apple devices at once, email, calendar, and address book.
> It's actually a great idea, but currently a little expensive at $100/year..
Especially since free alternatives exist, e.g. google calendar sync.
I've never really understood the marketing froth about push services.
If I want to go look at my contacts list, I have to open the app to
look at it anyway. Same with calendar. Same with email; periodic
checking is fine for me.
Re: MobileMe | A new service for your iPhone and PC
zwsdotcom@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 22, 10:22 am, "Carl" <croth...@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:
>
>> Mobileme is not an email service. It's a push- service for
>> coordinating changes on all Apple devices at once, email, calendar,
>> and address book. It's actually a great idea, but currently a little
>> expensive at $100/year.
>
> Especially since free alternatives exist, e.g. google calendar sync.
> I've never really understood the marketing froth about push services.
> If I want to go look at my contacts list, I have to open the app to
> look at it anyway. Same with calendar. Same with email; periodic
> checking is fine for me.
>
Well, there are people who use multiple devices. Let's say a PDA, laptop and
desktop, perhaps a smartphone. And they want their changes updated on all of
them but don't want to sync each manually because that becomes a monumental
task to attend to everyday. Now perhaps they want to continue using a
standardized program such as MS Outlook and don't want to switch over to
Google calendar. People like that would appreciate a push service like
Mobileme.
Does google calendar actually appear on your devices or do you have to
access the internet everytime you want to check it? If the latter, that
would be a huge drawback to me anyway. If I want to check my appointments, I
don't want to first have to access the internet.
Re: MobileMe | A new service for your iPhone and PC
"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9AE3707E280BEnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> "Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote in
> news:4885ed19$0$20946$607ed4bc@cv.net:
>
>> Mobileme is not an email service. It's a push- service for
>> coordinating changes on all Apple devices at once, email, calendar,
>> and address book. It's actually a great idea, but currently a little
>> expensive at $100/year.
>>
>>
>
> We "others" don't need a push client. Our computers are multitasking and
> fully capable of checking all those services on their own without the
> browser push crapware.....
Re: MobileMe | A new service for your iPhone and PC
"Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote in message
news:48860234$0$20939$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>> Mobileme is not an email service. It's a push- service for
>>> coordinating changes on all Apple devices at once, email, calendar,
>>> and address book. It's actually a great idea, but currently a little
>>> expensive at $100/year.
>>
>> Especially since free alternatives exist, e.g. google calendar sync.
>> I've never really understood the marketing froth about push services.
>> If I want to go look at my contacts list, I have to open the app to
>> look at it anyway. Same with calendar. Same with email; periodic
>> checking is fine for me.
>
> Well, there are people who use multiple devices. Let's say a PDA, laptop
> and desktop, perhaps a smartphone. And they want their changes updated on
> all of them but don't want to sync each manually because that becomes a
> monumental task to attend to everyday. Now perhaps they want to continue
> using a standardized program such as MS Outlook and don't want to switch
> over to Google calendar. People like that would appreciate a push service
> like Mobileme.
I think zws is reffering to the "push" aspect rather than the sync aspect.
For MOST people, scheduled "pulling" is good enough. With respect to
synching calendar, contacts, and tasks, my mobile devices, desktop and
laptop PCs sync Outlook Contacts and Calendar info with a Funambol SyncML
server every few hours. Most of my e-mail accounts sync hourly (or two) on
my mobile (on a 2G network like T-Mobile's or with the original iPhone, data
and voice can not occur simultaneously- too much pulling and pushing
increases the odds that a voice call can't get through because the phone is
busy with data and the call rolls right to voice mail.
I use one push e-mail account, but that's mostly used for my Visual
Voicemail. I'd rather have a voicemail from a missed call immediately
rather than 5, 15, or 60 minutes later. ;-)
> Does google calendar actually appear on your devices or do you have to
> access the internet everytime you want to check it? If the latter, that
> would be a huge drawback to me anyway. If I want to check my appointments,
> I don't want to first have to access the internet.
There are plenty of Outlook sync plug-ins for Google Clendar and Contacts
that work with desktops and mobiles. Goosync and Oggsync come to mind- they
periodically connect and sync the device/PC to the Google cloud info.
Another good example of a "poor man's Exchange server" like the Funambol
software I use. Both also have the advantage of being more platform
agnostic than Exchange. Exchange is great, but what if you want to sync
that info with your Nokia Symbian device, or your plain old Motorola Razr?
That's where Exchange alternatives like Google Calendar/Contacts, Plaxo, or
Funambol start to shine.
Re: MobileMe | A new service for your iPhone and PC
Todd Allcock wrote:
> "Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote in message
> news:48860234$0$20939$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>>> Mobileme is not an email service. It's a push- service for
>>>> coordinating changes on all Apple devices at once, email, calendar,
>>>> and address book. It's actually a great idea, but currently a
>>>> little expensive at $100/year.
>>>
>>> Especially since free alternatives exist, e.g. google calendar sync.
>>> I've never really understood the marketing froth about push
>>> services. If I want to go look at my contacts list, I have to open
>>> the app to look at it anyway. Same with calendar. Same with email;
>>> periodic checking is fine for me.
>>
>> Well, there are people who use multiple devices. Let's say a PDA,
>> laptop and desktop, perhaps a smartphone. And they want their
>> changes updated on all of them but don't want to sync each manually
>> because that becomes a monumental task to attend to everyday. Now
>> perhaps they want to continue using a standardized program such as
>> MS Outlook and don't want to switch over to Google calendar. People
>> like that would appreciate a push service like Mobileme.
>
> I think zws is reffering to the "push" aspect rather than the sync
> aspect. For MOST people, scheduled "pulling" is good enough. With
> respect to synching calendar, contacts, and tasks, my mobile devices,
> desktop and laptop PCs sync Outlook Contacts and Calendar info with a
> Funambol SyncML server every few hours. Most of my e-mail accounts
> sync hourly (or two) on my mobile (on a 2G network like T-Mobile's or
> with the original iPhone, data and voice can not occur
> simultaneously- too much pulling and pushing increases the odds that
> a voice call can't get through because the phone is busy with data
> and the call rolls right to voice mail.
> I use one push e-mail account, but that's mostly used for my Visual
> Voicemail. I'd rather have a voicemail from a missed call immediately
> rather than 5, 15, or 60 minutes later. ;-)
>
>> Does google calendar actually appear on your devices or do you have
>> to access the internet everytime you want to check it? If the
>> latter, that would be a huge drawback to me anyway. If I want to
>> check my appointments, I don't want to first have to access the
>> internet.
>
> There are plenty of Outlook sync plug-ins for Google Clendar and
> Contacts that work with desktops and mobiles. Goosync and Oggsync
> come to mind- they periodically connect and sync the device/PC to the
> Google cloud info. Another good example of a "poor man's Exchange
> server" like the Funambol software I use. Both also have the
> advantage of being more platform agnostic than Exchange. Exchange is
> great, but what if you want to sync that info with your Nokia Symbian
> device, or your plain old Motorola Razr? That's where Exchange
> alternatives like Google Calendar/Contacts, Plaxo, or Funambol start
> to shine.
As usual, thanks for all the useful, and well-informed, information.
Re: MobileMe | A new service for your iPhone and PC
"Scott Seidman" <namdiesttocs@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9AE3885E3B749scottseidmanmindspri@130.133. 1.4...
> Ron <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote in
> news:1jlb84114fj2rm4d3fs8c8pevlti2to1b3@4ax.com:
>
>> GMAIL is free, and email can now be pulled via a POP client, or their
>> web client is excellent. Does a marvelous job of SPAM filtering too.
>>
>
> Nothing in a gmail account can be considered confidential.
>
> --
> Scott
> Reverse name to reply
Re: MobileMe | A new service for your iPhone and PC
On Jul 22, 12:57*pm, "Todd Allcock" <eleccon...@AmericaOnLine.com>
wrote:
> > Well, there are people who use multiple devices. Let's say a PDA, laptop
> > and desktop, perhaps a smartphone. And they want their changes updated on
> > all of them but don't want to sync each manually because that becomes a
>
> I think zws is reffering to the "push" aspect rather than the sync aspect..
> For MOST people, scheduled "pulling" is good enough. *With respect to
Exactly what I meant. Typically I only have one device actually with
me - two at most (cellphone and laptop). A half-hour, or even an hour
or two of lag between when I input it on one device and when it
appears on others is no big deal to me - there's no possibility of
confusion because I'm not physically near the out-of-sync devices.
> and voice can not occur simultaneously- too much pulling and pushing
> increases the odds that a voice call can't get through because the phone is
> busy with data and the call rolls right to voice mail.
I thought a voice call would automatically kill an EDGE/GPRS session
and take priority.
Re: MobileMe | A new service for your iPhone and PC
On Jul 22, 1:24*pm, Scott Seidman <namdiestt...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > GMAIL is free, and email can now be pulled via a POP client, or their
> > web client is excellent. Does a marvelous job of SPAM filtering too.
>
> Nothing in a gmail account can be considered confidential.
Nothing sent in plaintext can be considered confidential, because the
backbone is tapped; if you have privacy concerns, use strong
encryption.
If you have anything that's really important enough to protect from
"them", you also need to control the type of hardware and software
your intended recipient will use to read the decrypted ciphertext
(TEMPEST, etc). There has even been some very good work done in
reconstructing screen contents by photographing the backscatter off a
wall behind the monitor.
Re: MobileMe | A new service for your iPhone and PC
In message <g6529n01l2t@news1.newsguy.com> "John B. Coarsey, PE"
<jcoarsey<nospam>@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
>news:Xns9AE3707E280BEnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253.. .
>> We "others" don't need a push client. Our computers are multitasking and
>> fully capable of checking all those services on their own without the
>> browser push crapware.....
>
>as is the iphone
And yet despite being capable of doing so, it is artificially prohibited
from this relatively simple task.
Re: MobileMe | A new service for your iPhone and PC
In message
<daa05f16-0318-4a12-ae89-9df687e8db57@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> zwsdotcom@gmail.com wrote:
>On Jul 22, 12:57*pm, "Todd Allcock" <eleccon...@AmericaOnLine.com>
>wrote:
>
>> and voice can not occur simultaneously- too much pulling and pushing
>> increases the odds that a voice call can't get through because the phone is
>> busy with data and the call rolls right to voice mail.
>
>I thought a voice call would automatically kill an EDGE/GPRS session
>and take priority.
From what I understand, a voice call will kill an idle EDGE/GPRS
session, but if the session is actually transferring data at the very
moment a voice call comes in, that takes priority over the incoming
call.
That being said, it's a moot point with 3G as 3G can handle both at once
anyway.
Re: MobileMe | A new service for your iPhone and PC
"DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
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> In message <g6529n01l2t@news1.newsguy.com> "John B. Coarsey, PE"
> <jcoarsey<nospam>@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
>>news:Xns9AE3707E280BEnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253. ..
>>> We "others" don't need a push client. Our computers are multitasking
>>> and
>>> fully capable of checking all those services on their own without the
>>> browser push crapware.....
>>
>>as is the iphone
>
> And yet despite being capable of doing so, it is artificially prohibited
> from this relatively simple task.
> On Jul 22, 1:24*pm, Scott Seidman <namdiestt...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> > GMAIL is free, and email can now be pulled via a POP client, or their
>> > web client is excellent. Does a marvelous job of SPAM filtering too.
>>
>> Nothing in a gmail account can be considered confidential.
>
> Nothing sent in plaintext can be considered confidential, because the
> backbone is tapped; if you have privacy concerns, use strong
> encryption.
>
> If you have anything that's really important enough to protect from
> "them", you also need to control the type of hardware and software
> your intended recipient will use to read the decrypted ciphertext
> (TEMPEST, etc). There has even been some very good work done in
> reconstructing screen contents by photographing the backscatter off a
> wall behind the monitor.
>
>
Laugh if you must, but many an intellectual property case has been decided
upon the determination of just when an idea has been disclosed. Our IP
attorneys always advise us NOT to use platforms like gmail for anything
important, because they don't want to be put in that situation in a court
room. "Reasonable Expectation" of confidentiality comes into play.
> > and voice can not occur simultaneously- too much pulling and pushing
> > increases the odds that a voice call can't get through because the
phone is
> > busy with data and the call rolls right to voice mail.
>
> I thought a voice call would automatically kill an EDGE/GPRS session
> and take priority.
Sort of- it'll knock out an data session if data packets aren't actively
being transferred at the moment, but during a packet transfer the phone is
receiving data rathering than "hearing" the incoming call. The more often
you're transferring data, like pulling e-mail, the more likely you'll miss
a call. My phone polls four IMAP accounts, so I cut the frequency down
from 15 minutes to every hour, because I was getting too many missed calls.
Re: MobileMe | A new service for your iPhone and PC
Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in
news:g67fjp$asb$1@aioe.org:
> At 22 Jul 2008 16:45:53 -0700 zwsdotcom@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> > and voice can not occur simultaneously- too much pulling and
>> > pushing increases the odds that a voice call can't get through
>> > because the
> phone is
>> > busy with data and the call rolls right to voice mail.
>>
>> I thought a voice call would automatically kill an EDGE/GPRS session
>> and take priority.
>
>
> Sort of- it'll knock out an data session if data packets aren't
> actively being transferred at the moment, but during a packet transfer
> the phone is receiving data rathering than "hearing" the incoming
> call. The more often you're transferring data, like pulling e-mail,
> the more likely you'll miss a call. My phone polls four IMAP
> accounts, so I cut the frequency down from 15 minutes to every hour,
> because I was getting too many missed calls.
>
>
>
Wow...That's awful. The ROKR Z6m on EVDO never misses a call when
transferring data. I can be watching Russian TV on the Linux tablet and
the phone rings. When I answer the phone, the data stops until I'm done.
If the server hasn't dumped me, which most do, the data even resumes after
I hang up. The BT DUN stays connected and making a call doesn't recall for
another IP, like a full disconnect does.
Of course, when connected on BT DUN, the phone's other features are all
inaccessible....MP3/Camera/etc.
Re: MobileMe | A new service for your iPhone and PC
At 23 Jul 2008 16:37:16 +0000 Larry wrote:
> > Sort of- it'll knock out an data session if data packets aren't
> > actively being transferred at the moment, but during a packet transfer
> > the phone is receiving data rathering than "hearing" the incoming
> > call. The more often you're transferring data, like pulling e-mail,
> > the more likely you'll miss a call. My phone polls four IMAP
> > accounts, so I cut the frequency down from 15 minutes to every hour,
> > because I was getting too many missed calls.
> Wow...That's awful. The ROKR Z6m on EVDO never misses a call when
> transferring data.
Keep in mind we're talking about 2G GSM data, Not 3G.
If you had been a big CDMA data user in the 2G "1X" days, you'd have had
the same problem.
> I can be watching Russian TV on the Linux tablet and
> the phone rings. When I answer the phone, the data stops until I'm done.
On GSM, 3G data and voice are simultaneous- data DOESN'T stop when a call
comes in.
> Of course, when connected on BT DUN, the phone's other features are all
> inaccessible....MP3/Camera/etc.
Really? Sounds like you need a multitasking phone! ;-)
Re: MobileMe | A new service for your iPhone and PC
Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in news:g67s1t$4p6$1
@aioe.org:
>> Of course, when connected on BT DUN, the phone's other features are all
>> inaccessible....MP3/Camera/etc.
>
>
> Really? Sounds like you need a multitasking phone! ;-)
>
>
Nah...doesn't matter. Sellphones are just MODEMS, right?
Re: MobileMe | A new service for your iPhone and PC
At 23 Jul 2008 19:03:24 +0000 Larry wrote:
> > Really? Sounds like you need a multitasking phone! ;-)
>
>
> Nah...doesn't matter. Sellphones are just MODEMS, right?
To you, yes. To me they're very small laptops with modems in them! ;-)
In DC this week- took a White House tour at 7:30 this AM, and the tour
forbids cameras, phones, etc.- even personal grooming items! So I treked
out of thehotel at 7AM with my family and WITHOUT my WinMo phone.
I was lost without the damn thing for two lousy hours! I didn't know the
time (I stopped wearing a watch five years ago because cellphones display
the time!) I couldn't lookup the closest restaurants to grab breakfast
after the tour, and had to actually stop and ask a local where the nearest
Metro station was. Jeez, it was like living in the dark ages (the early
90's) again! I haven't felt this out of touch since my trip to Cancun in
January (where connectivity exists, but I refuse to pay $15/MB for it!) ;-)
Re: MobileMe | A new service for your iPhone and PC
In message <g675vg02hrf@news3.newsguy.com> "John B. Coarsey, PE"
<jcoarsey<nospam>@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>"DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
>news:1bpd84ttdk89ke5clmm0vgl5jlk81d3csr@4ax.com.. .
>> In message <g6529n01l2t@news1.newsguy.com> "John B. Coarsey, PE"
>> <jcoarsey<nospam>@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
>>>news:Xns9AE3707E280BEnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253 ...
>>>> We "others" don't need a push client. Our computers are multitasking
>>>> and
>>>> fully capable of checking all those services on their own without the
>>>> browser push crapware.....
>>>
>>>as is the iphone
>>
>> And yet despite being capable of doing so, it is artificially prohibited
>> from this relatively simple task.
>
>Please elaborate.
Well, as I've been informed by no less then four application vendors who
are creating Sync tools of various types, they simply cannot synchronize
in the background.
This isn't a problem if you're using the local application's interface,
but if you're planning on keeping your Contacts list up to date, you
need to his the Sync app once in a while.
I'd sign up for the developer program if I could, but I don't have the
niche hardware required, so unfortunately I haven't actually read the
contracts myself.
Re: MobileMe | A new service for your iPhone and PC
"DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
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> In message <g675vg02hrf@news3.newsguy.com> "John B. Coarsey, PE"
> <jcoarsey<nospam>@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
>>news:1bpd84ttdk89ke5clmm0vgl5jlk81d3csr@4ax.com. ..
>>> In message <g6529n01l2t@news1.newsguy.com> "John B. Coarsey, PE"
>>> <jcoarsey<nospam>@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:Xns9AE3707E280BEnoonehomecom@208.49.80.25 3...
>>>>> We "others" don't need a push client. Our computers are multitasking
>>>>> and
>>>>> fully capable of checking all those services on their own without the
>>>>> browser push crapware.....
>>>>
>>>>as is the iphone
>>>
>>> And yet despite being capable of doing so, it is artificially prohibited
>>> from this relatively simple task.
>>
>>Please elaborate.
>
> Well, as I've been informed by no less then four application vendors who
> are creating Sync tools of various types, they simply cannot synchronize
> in the background.
>
> This isn't a problem if you're using the local application's interface,
> but if you're planning on keeping your Contacts list up to date, you
> need to his the Sync app once in a while.
>
> I'd sign up for the developer program if I could, but I don't have the
> niche hardware required, so unfortunately I haven't actually read the
> contracts myself.
Re: MobileMe | A new service for your iPhone and PC
On Jul 23, 8:22*am, Scott Seidman <namdiestt...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >> Nothing in a gmail account can be considered confidential.
>
> > Nothing sent in plaintext can be considered confidential, because the
> > backbone is tapped; if you have privacy concerns, use strong
>
> Laugh if you must, but many an intellectual property case has been decided
> upon the determination of just when an idea has been disclosed. *Our IP
> attorneys always advise us NOT to use platforms like gmail for anything
I have quite a few inventions for my present employer currently
winding through the USPTO (due to the 18-month lagtime only one as yet
appears in the pub-app search). It worries me somewhat that the
outside attorneys our IP dept uses to prepare the filings often cc's
their gmail accounts with emails containing drawings, etc... but on
the other hand, I get my bonus when the application is filed, not when
(or if) the USPTO approves it, so......
But I think "reasonable expectation of privacy" could be argued very
successfully for gmail. It is password-protected and can run over SSL.
Re: MobileMe | A new service for your iPhone and PC
zwsdotcom@gmail.com wrote in
news:f53e2bb4-7eb2-44a3-87bd-70b71b526820@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
> On Jul 23, 8:22*am, Scott Seidman <namdiestt...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> >> Nothing in a gmail account can be considered confidential.
>>
>> > Nothing sent in plaintext can be considered confidential, because
>> > the backbone is tapped; if you have privacy concerns, use strong
>>
>> Laugh if you must, but many an intellectual property case has been
>> decide
> d
>> upon the determination of just when an idea has been disclosed. *Our
>> IP attorneys always advise us NOT to use platforms like gmail for
>> anything
>
> I have quite a few inventions for my present employer currently
> winding through the USPTO (due to the 18-month lagtime only one as yet
> appears in the pub-app search). It worries me somewhat that the
> outside attorneys our IP dept uses to prepare the filings often cc's
> their gmail accounts with emails containing drawings, etc... but on
> the other hand, I get my bonus when the application is filed, not when
> (or if) the USPTO approves it, so......
>
> But I think "reasonable expectation of privacy" could be argued very
> successfully for gmail. It is password-protected and can run over SSL.
>
>
By definition, google scans for keywords for ad purposes.
Re: MobileMe | A new service for your iPhone and PC
At 24 Jul 2008 13:50:24 +0000 Scott Seidman wrote:
> > But I think "reasonable expectation of privacy" could be argued very
> > successfully for gmail. It is password-protected and can run over SSL.
> >
> >
>
> By definition, google scans for keywords for ad purposes.
True, but I opted in for that, and ONLY that, by signing up for GMail- a
mindless bot searching for adsense keywords isn't the same as a pair of
human eyeballs intelligently parsing the contents of my e-mail.
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