Re: Virgin Mobile to Begin Offering $40 Unlimited Prepaid 3G BroadbandService Tomorrow

On 8/26/2010 6:38 AM, Todd Allcock wrote:

> There's no white on the T-Mo map.

Correct, but the legend for the map does show white for no-coverage, not
light gray.

> "Partner coverage" (newspeak for
> "roaming") is dark grey, no coverage is light grey- the color on your map.

T-Mobile must be very concerned after their abysmal 2Q2010 results.
While Verizon and AT&T are adding prepaid customers up the wazoo,
T-Mobile lost 199,000. T-Mobile has a very attractive prepaid offering
in terms of cost, so their not leaving because of price.

Probably a combination of declining coverage and the new MVNO plans that
offer data services are what's affecting T-Mobile. T-Mobile just began
offering data on prepaid two weeks ago (99¢/hour for unlimited). Not a
bad deal, especially if you can tether.

Virgin, Tracfone (StraightTalk), Boost, and PagePlus, have been offering
data for a lot longer. Verizon InPulse has 99¢/day Mobile Web which is
very limited but does offer Facebook and some e-mail services.

In article <4c7c26b4$0$1600$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, SMS
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> Probably a combination of declining coverage and the new MVNO plans that
> offer data services are what's affecting T-Mobile. T-Mobile just began
> offering data on prepaid two weeks ago (99¢/hour for unlimited). Not a
> bad deal, especially if you can tether.

they started offering that a while ago, but it's a horrible deal unless
you only need 1 hour on occasion. if you happen to need to do something
as simple as checking email a few times a day, it adds up very quickly.

On 8/30/2010 2:58 PM, nospam wrote:

> they started offering that a while ago, but it's a horrible deal unless
> you only need 1 hour on occasion. if you happen to need to do something
> as simple as checking email a few times a day, it adds up very quickly.

I'm thinking more of needing access only a few times a month while
traveling and away from WiFi. For regular usage you're right, it's a bad
deal. Alas, the places I have no WiFi access are likely the same places
that I would have no T-Mobile network!

On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:45:41 -0700, in
<4c7c26b4$0$1600$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, SMS
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

>T-Mobile must be very concerned after their abysmal 2Q2010 results.
>While Verizon and AT&T are adding prepaid customers up the wazoo,
>T-Mobile lost 199,000. T-Mobile has a very attractive prepaid offering
>in terms of cost, so their not leaving because of price.
>
>Probably a combination of declining coverage ...

Yet another supposition/made-up issue. If it were true, it would be in
the news. It's not. All you're finding in forums are the same kind of
complaints all carriers get from coverage changes over the years.

When T-Mobile or any other carrier opens new coverage in Timbucktoo,
then (not surprisingly) roaming coverage in Timbucktoo is discontinued,
and while that may well a boon (more and better coverage) for most
people, there will inevitably be some people in particular spots that
got better coverage from the roaming partner. (They do have a valid
gripe, and can seek termination without penalty.) This is a normal kind
of service change that's actually the opposite of "declining coverage".

--
John

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SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:4c7c2cf3$0$1599
$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:

> On 8/30/2010 2:58 PM, nospam wrote:
>
>> they started offering that a while ago, but it's a horrible deal
unless
>> you only need 1 hour on occasion. if you happen to need to do
something
>> as simple as checking email a few times a day, it adds up very
quickly.
>
> I'm thinking more of needing access only a few times a month while
> traveling and away from WiFi. For regular usage you're right, it's a
bad
> deal. Alas, the places I have no WiFi access are likely the same places
> that I would have no T-Mobile network!
>

Pageplus has changed its $1.20/MB to 60c/MB after you use up the 20MB on
their $44.95 unlimited talk n text monthly plan. 20MB should be plenty
for the occasional email user like you. It's on Verizon, nationwide, so
will have far more reach away from the big cities than T-Mo can deliver.

1200 talk n 1200 text with MMS pictures for $29.95 before Callingmart
discount has also gotten 60c/MB but that's over 50MB, because of the
picture messaging it offers. If you don't transfer the 24 gigapixels
pictures from the supercameras, 50MB should also be plenty for even less
money. If 20 hours a month is enough sellphone time, it's a great deal
for Verizon coverage.

On 8/30/2010 4:38 PM, Larry wrote:

<snip>

> 1200 talk n 1200 text with MMS pictures for $29.95 before Callingmart
> discount has also gotten 60c/MB but that's over 50MB, because of the
> picture messaging it offers. If you don't transfer the 24 gigapixels
> pictures from the supercameras, 50MB should also be plenty for even less
> money. If 20 hours a month is enough sellphone time, it's a great deal
> for Verizon coverage.

If I understand PagePlus's plans correctly, the messaging does not come
out of the 50MB or 20MB. Also they changed the $45 plan to now include
multi-media messaging (it used to be only text).

SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:4c7c5c48$0$1658
$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:

> On 8/30/2010 4:38 PM, Larry wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> 1200 talk n 1200 text with MMS pictures for $29.95 before Callingmart
>> discount has also gotten 60c/MB but that's over 50MB, because of the
>> picture messaging it offers. If you don't transfer the 24 gigapixels
>> pictures from the supercameras, 50MB should also be plenty for even
less
>> money. If 20 hours a month is enough sellphone time, it's a great
deal
>> for Verizon coverage.
>
> If I understand PagePlus's plans correctly, the messaging does not come
> out of the 50MB or 20MB. Also they changed the $45 plan to now include
> multi-media messaging (it used to be only text).
>

If they did, they didn't change the webpage to reflect the changes.....

They changed it when the price of unlimited went up. I was, from what
the text said about picture messaging, under the impression the pictures
came OUT of the 50 MB of data.