Re: Wow Apple and Google Force Verzion to Change Network Policy

4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:73a926cd-89da-4045-aef9-
d7960a2827e5@e4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

> LOL the iPhone got Verizon's attention as users continue to defect to
> AT&T.

Actually, Sprint, Alltel, AT&T and T-Mobile got their attention. They were
the last carrier to announce such a program. The iPhone had nothing to do
with the decision. Google is more likely the culprit.

Stop being such a fanboi.

>
> Verzon is forced to change policy on phones to allow any technically
> capable phone on the Verizon network. No more are customers locked
> into those horrible red/black Verizon phone screens when turning on
> their new non Verizon phones.

Don't bet on it. The customer may be allowed to bring any phone, but
Verizon is probably going to reflash the phone with their firmware.

"vic.healey" <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in
news:9a970447-c1ac-48ed-908e-5a2313f0e3f1@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:

> Lets see CozmicDebris, you replied without reading the attached NY
> TIMES article which clearly mentioned the iPhone was Verizons
> motivation to act now.

I read the article, but unlike you (apparently), I used a little bit of
accumulated knowledge to read through the inaccuracies. And I'm sorry if
you believe that the NY Times has never been inaccurate in their reporting.

This program will not stop the sale of iPhones and there is no way
technologically that Verizon will be able to put iPhones on their network.
iPhone customers are locked to AT&T for two years.

The iPhone, contrary to the popular Apple opinion, was not the motivator.

>
> I agree the gPhone will also have a big impact but that will be at
> gutting Verizon's existing business model if tgPhones are free to
> users based on ad based revenue. Amazon also has a neat new eBook
> device that uses Sprint. It is free to consumers to use to even browse
> the world wide web from anywhere on the Sprint network at no charge
> from Sprint.

At no charge from Sprint, but at an increased price from Amazon. And $400
for an ebook reader is rather pricey.

>
> FREE is GOOD. GREED is BAD.

And yet it is not free.

>

In article <KHj3j.4$e%6.0@fe117.usenetserver.com>, Todd Allcock
<elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:

> The Amazon device doesn't browse the web- it allows you to download
> purchased/subscription content over the cellular networks. AFAIK, the only
> "free" content offered is Wikipedia. Even the 100+ blogs you can access
> from a Kindle require a subscription, IIRC.

It does browse the web. It has a web browser. If you use the web
browser you can read all blogs for free. Even the ones they charge for
by subscription to download. And the 3G connection is free. At first
glance I thought as you did about the device but delving into it, it
looks like the device has some potential.

--
Charles

At 28 Nov 2007 21:07:18 -0500 Charles wrote:

> It does browse the web. It has a web browser. If you use the web
> browser you can read all blogs for free. Even the ones they charge for
> by subscription to download. And the 3G connection is free. At first
> glance I thought as you did about the device but delving into it, it
> looks like the device has some potential.


Thanks for the correction. The web site is pretty vague- it mentions the
"experimental" web browsing, but says something cryptic about fees to
access "some" webpages...

"If there is a fee to visit the page, accept the charge for Web access
using the select wheel..."

Almost like the free browsing is some kind of beta thing.