"Kurt" <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in message
news:labolide-4D5561.17430027032008@news.giganews.com...
> In article <s_WGj.5304$qT6.917@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> "Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>
>> Iphone 3G 30.00 a month if AT&T gives the same price as all other 3G
>> phones.
>> Tilt "
>> "
>>
>> Same price per month. A few dollars you might "save" ?
>> Same price per month for the data. Half the price for the tilt is hardly
>> a
>> few bucks.
>
> So your monthly cell phone bill is $30?
>
> I think not.
>
> --
> To reply by email, remove the word "space"
In article <8qXGj.20486$xq2.11937@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net> ,
"Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "Kurt" <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in message
> news:labolide-4D5561.17430027032008@news.giganews.com...
> > In article <s_WGj.5304$qT6.917@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> > "Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Iphone 3G 30.00 a month if AT&T gives the same price as all other 3G
> >> phones.
> >> Tilt "
> >> "
> >>
> >> Same price per month. A few dollars you might "save" ?
> >> Same price per month for the data. Half the price for the tilt is hardly
> >> a
> >> few bucks.
> >
> > So your monthly cell phone bill is $30?
> >
> > I think not.
> >
> > --
> > To reply by email, remove the word "space"
>
>
> 3G Service Is.
The point was about what a total monthly bill would be, not just the net
data.
I have a Treo with Windows Mobile and I love it. It took me some time to
adjust from my old treo with Palm system but now I am glad I did. Palm is
still very available on the net for very cheap if not free software where
Win Mobile does cost a bit more is does not have as much available. I am a
computer geek so I want as much flexability as possible, you may not. Palm
will phase out in time but I think it will be a long time. Blackberry's are
great devices for email but are very limited on software. Besides you pay
extra for BB data services, not cheap either. All PDA phones will sync with
MS Outlook even if it is a palm device. Some even sync with Lotus but read
up on your model selection before purchase. Many providers do offer a 30
day exchange or refund so play with your new pda alot during that time to
see if it fits your needs. Hope this helped. Good Luck.
"Robert A. Fink, M. D." <lynxer@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:401mu3hj2qpmvm4i3b037ug3affdfb4unq@4ax.com...
> My wife's PDA (an ancient Palm m515) has finally gone to heaven and
> her RAZR v 3 phone is showing signs of senility. She is considering
> replacement with a "smart phone" of some type, and I might just go
> along as well (I use a RAZR and a Palm Tungsten C PDA which is still
> working OK).
>
> We have looked at several units and nothing appears to be "just
> right". Our impressions to date:
>
> 1. The Treo phones (using the Palm OS) are somewhat long in the tooth.
> The future for the Palm OS is also questionable. We like the Palm OS,
> but it seems to be "moving on".
>
> 2. The units running the Windows Mobile system, I am told, are slow
> and kludgy.
>
> 3. The Blackberry units are difficult to type on, and again, there is
> an OS problem. Are the operating systems interchangeable (for example,
> if we buy something other than a Palm-based unit, will we be able to
> synch all of our present Palm data onto the new unit)?
>
> 4. The Apple iPhone appears to be a nice piece of equipment, but it
> has several shortcomings, including having to work through iTunes,
> battery replacement problems, a "mediocre" phone (by report), not
> compatible with 3G service (I use ATT's Laptop Connect service); and
> it remains relatively pricey.
>
> Any thoughts from this Group?
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Bob
>
> Robert A. Fink, M. D., FACS, P. C.
> Neurological Surgery
> 2500 Milvia Street Suite 222
> Berkeley, CA 94704-2636 USA
> 510-849-2555
>
> "Ex Tristitia Virtus"
In article <fsh705$b6b$1@aioe.org>, elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com says...
> True- but the misconception flown by the anti-MS crowd is that these
> devices lock up hourly or so- that just isn't the case.
>
I don't know where that idea has come from other than deliberate
muddying the field. I reboot my JAM maybe once a week when I see the
memory indicator get low or whenever some application has a new version.
Other than that I can't even remember when I've had to reboot because of
a crash or lockup--it's been a year at least. Once I stopped testing
programs and got everything loaded that I wanted it's been more stable
than my XP tablet--actually a LOT more stable :-)
The JAM is getting up in age though. But I don't want the new models
with the keyboards--they're a *lot* thicker. I don't need a keyboard--I
use a program called Fitaly that replaces the soft qwerty keyboard with
one optimized for tapping with a stylus. I can easily do 30wpm with the
amount of use I do--some users on their forum who do a lot more texting
than I do report 70wpm.
The iPhone is going to have to add quite a few applications before I
venture that route. How many of these can iPhone do yet: powerful PIM
application (Agenda Fusion) with features galore; configuable multi-
alarm clock/stopwatch application; Word and Excel; PhatPad that allows
handdrawn notes and designs to be shared between PPC and PC; MP3
recorder; configuable database; virtual wallet (passwords etc) shared
with pc; RepliGo that can transfer a zoomable/readable image of *any* pc
document or screen; Pocket Streets with street level map of entire DFW
metroplex (with GPS if I wanted it); eReader to read novels (free and
purchased); removable memory card; file syncing to/from any folder on
the pc (activesync with mightysync addon). When it can do all of those I
might consider it. 'Course by then HTC and others will have duplicated
the touch interface...
--
Jud
Dallas TX USA
On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:26:50 -0600, Todd Allcock
<elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
>As far as your other question on the thread; transferring the Palm
>contacts/calendar to the new phone, does your Tungsten have bluetooth? You
>could simply transfer them to the new phone via BT, then sync from the Tilt
>to Outlook, and avoid the need for any type of Palm Desktop-to-Outlook
>utility.
I do not use Outlook as a mailer. I use Pegasus Mail, which is also a
POP3 client. Will that make a difference?
Best,
Bob
Robert A. Fink, M. D., FACS, P. C.
Neurological Surgery
2500 Milvia Street Suite 222
Berkeley, CA 94704-2636 USA
510-849-2555
Previously on alt.cellular.cingular, Robert A. Fink, M. D. said:
> >As far as your other question on the thread; transferring the Palm
> >contacts/calendar to the new phone, does your Tungsten have bluetooth? You
> >could simply transfer them to the new phone via BT, then sync from the Tilt
> >to Outlook, and avoid the need for any type of Palm Desktop-to-Outlook
> >utility.
>
> I do not use Outlook as a mailer. I use Pegasus Mail, which is also a
> POP3 client. Will that make a difference?
I believe the context was for PIM data, not email. The Tilt, being a
WinMob device, will natively sync the calendar, contacts, notes and
tasks to Outlook.
Several years ago, I switched to using Outlook for my desktop PIM from
the Palm Desktop because I needed the address book synchronization with
Word. I find it to be much more functional than the Palm Desktop, and
the only reason I even bother to install Palm Desktop on my systems is
so I can sync my Treo at all. I do not use Outlook for anything else,
and therefore have never set up its online features.
--
Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
The from userid is killfiled Send personal mail to gordol
Tips for the Innocent Bystander: 37. If mysterious strangers appear at
the birth or adoption of your child and make epic proclamations about
him/her, listen.
At 28 Mar 2008 15:49:15 -0700 Robert A. Fink, M. D. wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:26:50 -0600, Todd Allcock
> >As far as your other question on the thread; transferring the Palm
> >contacts/calendar to the new phone, does your Tungsten have bluetooth?
You
> >could simply transfer them to the new phone via BT, then sync from the
Tilt
> >to Outlook, and avoid the need for any type of Palm Desktop-to-Outlook
> >utility.
>
>
> I do not use Outlook as a mailer. I use Pegasus Mail, which is also a
> POP3 client. Will that make a difference?
Sort of- Windows Mobile phones only support PIM synchin it Outlook.
There's no Microsoft equivalent to "Palm Desktop."
You can certainly receive your POP e-mail with any e-mail program of your
choice, but backing up your calendar and contacts info on the PC requires
Outlook. As an alternative, you can use a free Exchange account at
mail2web.com, and use it's included OWA (Outlook Web Access) function,
which is essentially "Outlook in a browser window."
In message <Xns9A6ECAADC481Enoonehomecom@208.49.80.253> Larry
<noone@home.com> wrote:
>Jeffrey Kaplan <nomail@gordol.org> wrote in
>news:38hnu35947sduruluv73j376qbp8igq5si@gordol.or g:
>
>> That statement makes me chuckle. What good is a bazilion features and
>> programs, if the thing constantly falls over due to stability issues?
>> Stability is Function Number 1.
>>
>>
>
>No use at all. I don't understand how Micro$oft stays in business.
Fairly simple: It just works. If you're seeing even monthly crashes on
XP or Vista, you need to fix your hardware, fix your drivers (including
file system filters -- AV software, I'm looking at you)
In article <5tsqu3h1ne3ndgui56uuh765h1hji051kj@4ax.com>,
"Robert A. Fink, M. D." <lynxer@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:26:50 -0600, Todd Allcock
> <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
>
> >As far as your other question on the thread; transferring the Palm
> >contacts/calendar to the new phone, does your Tungsten have bluetooth? You
> >could simply transfer them to the new phone via BT, then sync from the Tilt
> >to Outlook, and avoid the need for any type of Palm Desktop-to-Outlook
> >utility.
>
>
> I do not use Outlook as a mailer. I use Pegasus Mail, which is also a
> POP3 client. Will that make a difference?
>
I have 3 POP email accounts on my iPhone.
> > I do not use Outlook as a mailer. I use Pegasus Mail, which is also a
> > POP3 client. Will that make a difference?
> >
> I have 3 POP email accounts on my iPhone.
This is also probably a good time to suggest to the good Doctor that he
consider IMAP instead of POP for e-mail, regardless of what smartphone he
eventually chooses.
IMAP is much easier to deal with when using multiple devices withthe same e-
mail account(s), since changes made on one device (deletions, marking e-
mail as read, etc.) are reflected on all devices, eliminating the need the
deal with the same e-mail twice.
In article <fss31c$nbe$1@aioe.org>,
Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
> At 31 Mar 2008 10:52:24 -0700 Kurt wrote:
>
> > > I do not use Outlook as a mailer. I use Pegasus Mail, which is also a
> > > POP3 client. Will that make a difference?
> > >
> > I have 3 POP email accounts on my iPhone.
>
>
> This is also probably a good time to suggest to the good Doctor that he
> consider IMAP instead of POP for e-mail, regardless of what smartphone he
> eventually chooses.
>
> IMAP is much easier to deal with when using multiple devices withthe same e-
> mail account(s), since changes made on one device (deletions, marking e-
> mail as read, etc.) are reflected on all devices, eliminating the need the
> deal with the same e-mail twice.
But iPhone is too easy. Maybe other phones... Some email services also
still do not support IMAP.
> > IMAP is much easier to deal with when using multiple devices withthe
same e-
> > mail account(s), since changes made on one device (deletions, marking e-
> > mail as read, etc.) are reflected on all devices, eliminating the need
the
> > deal with the same e-mail twice.
>
> But iPhone is too easy. Maybe other phones...
What does that mean? If you delete a POP e-mail on your iPhone are you
saying the deletion magically propagates to your desktop? A POP e-mail
read on the iPhone is marked read on the desktop? With IMAP, sure (just
like with any other device with IMAP support)- with POP? Nope.
POP is hampered by design- it's from a day when people had one computer and
phones were bolted to walls. You pull the e-mail from the server and can
either leave a copy behind or not. That generally means dealing with the
same e-mails (at least) twice, since mobile devices are usually set to
leave a copy behind so your desktop can access all your e-mail. So, any e-
mails read or deleted on the mobile, are still waiting for you on your
desktop.
With IMAP, if you delete a bunch of e-mails on your phone, they WON'T be
waiting on your desktop to be read (and deleted) again. E-mails read on
the mobile will already be marked read on the desktop. If you use a
variety of desktops, laptops, and mobiles with the same e-mail accounts,
IMAP makes life a lot easier.
> Some email services also
> still do not support IMAP.
True. A perfectly good reason to change e-mail providers, IMO. ;-)
In article <fssks4$iot$1@aioe.org>,
Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
> At 31 Mar 2008 19:25:52 -0700 Kurt wrote:
>
> > > IMAP is much easier to deal with when using multiple devices withthe
> same e-
> > > mail account(s), since changes made on one device (deletions, marking e-
> > > mail as read, etc.) are reflected on all devices, eliminating the need
> the
> > > deal with the same e-mail twice.
> >
> > But iPhone is too easy. Maybe other phones...
>
> What does that mean? If you delete a POP e-mail on your iPhone are you
> saying the deletion magically propagates to your desktop? A POP e-mail
> read on the iPhone is marked read on the desktop? With IMAP, sure (just
> like with any other device with IMAP support)- with POP? Nope.
> With IMAP, if you delete a bunch of e-mails on your phone, they WON'T be
> waiting on your desktop to be read (and deleted) again. E-mails read on
> the mobile will already be marked read on the desktop. If you use a
> variety of desktops, laptops, and mobiles with the same e-mail accounts,
> IMAP makes life a lot easier.
>
Not a big amount, but I will agree thjat for some people, this makes
more sense. I need to have most of my emails archived on my main
machine, so this is not an issue. I also have many email accounts. Most
don't go traveling with me.
>What does that mean? If you delete a POP e-mail on your iPhone are you
>saying the deletion magically propagates to your desktop? A POP e-mail
>read on the iPhone is marked read on the desktop? With IMAP, sure (just
>like with any other device with IMAP support)- with POP? Nope.
When I read a piece of POP3 mail, I either save it to a folder or
delete it from the server. Therefore, it is deleted and will not show
up on the phone if I have read it on the computer, or vice versa.
Correct?
Best,
Bob
Robert A. Fink, M. D., FACS, P. C.
Neurological Surgery
2500 Milvia Street Suite 222
Berkeley, CA 94704-2636 USA
510-849-2555
"Robert A. Fink, M. D." <lynxer@comcast.net> wrote in message
news5t5v39bckqs4cklrbqau62qu8vof8opi9@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 00:17:35 -0600, Todd Allcock
> <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
>
>>What does that mean? If you delete a POP e-mail on your iPhone are you
>>saying the deletion magically propagates to your desktop? A POP e-mail
>>read on the iPhone is marked read on the desktop? With IMAP, sure (just
>>like with any other device with IMAP support)- with POP? Nope.
>
> When I read a piece of POP3 mail, I either save it to a folder or
> delete it from the server. Therefore, it is deleted and will not show
> up on the phone if I have read it on the computer, or vice versa.
>
> Correct?
>
>
> Best,
>
> Bob
>
> Robert A. Fink, M. D., FACS, P. C.
> Neurological Surgery
> 2500 Milvia Street Suite 222
> Berkeley, CA 94704-2636 USA
> 510-849-2555
>
> "Ex Tristitia Virtus"
Depends on which device checks the email first, and if that device is set to
tell your pop3 server to delete the message off the server when checking
that pop3 server.
I've set mine to not delete from my phone. But delete from the home system.
At 01 Apr 2008 19:55:43 -0700 Robert A. Fink, M. D. wrote:
> When I read a piece of POP3 mail, I either save it to a folder or
> delete it from the server. Therefore, it is deleted and will not show
> up on the phone if I have read it on the computer, or vice versa.
>
> Correct?
This explains it better than I ever could: http://www.imap.org/imap.vs.pop.brief.html, but essentially each device
keeps track of what POP mail it's downloaded but no device knows what the
others have done.
(Having said that, however, some "POP" services, like GMail or AOL, don't
follow the POP protocol and therefore don't play by the rules- they just
act like POP services to allow access by POP e-mail clients.)
"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in message
news:fsvbfk$5hq$1@aioe.org...
> At 01 Apr 2008 19:55:43 -0700 Robert A. Fink, M. D. wrote:
>
>> When I read a piece of POP3 mail, I either save it to a folder or
>> delete it from the server. Therefore, it is deleted and will not show
>> up on the phone if I have read it on the computer, or vice versa.
>>
>> Correct?
>
>
> This explains it better than I ever could:
> http://www.imap.org/imap.vs.pop.brief.html, but essentially each device
> keeps track of what POP mail it's downloaded but no device knows what the
> others have done.
>
> (Having said that, however, some "POP" services, like GMail or AOL, don't
> follow the POP protocol and therefore don't play by the rules- they just
> act like POP services to allow access by POP e-mail clients.)
>
>
If you have outlook checking your pop mail and have the setting to leave it
on the server it wont get deleted. Have it checked with it to remove it from
the server and it will. That's why I said it depends on how it's setup in
software and which one checks it 1st.
Todd Allcock wrote:
>
> (Having said that, however, some "POP" services, like GMail or AOL,
> don't follow the POP protocol and therefore don't play by the rules-
> they just act like POP services to allow access by POP e-mail
> clients.)
As an FYI Gmail does IMAP now. I use it to poll and converge all of my POP3
accounts, placing them into proper categories.
Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in news:fsvbfk$5hq$1
@aioe.org:
> At 01 Apr 2008 19:55:43 -0700 Robert A. Fink, M. D. wrote:
>
>> When I read a piece of POP3 mail, I either save it to a folder or
>> delete it from the server. Therefore, it is deleted and will not
show
>> up on the phone if I have read it on the computer, or vice versa.
>>
>> Correct?
>
>
> This explains it better than I ever could:
> http://www.imap.org/imap.vs.pop.brief.html, but essentially each
device
> keeps track of what POP mail it's downloaded but no device knows what
the
> others have done.
>
> (Having said that, however, some "POP" services, like GMail or AOL,
don't
> follow the POP protocol and therefore don't play by the rules- they
just
> act like POP services to allow access by POP e-mail clients.)
>
>
>
None of this would be an issue if you boys had a working SSH remote
desktop.
I only use one email client, the one in my office on real broadband. I
access it from this tablet, like I'm doing sending this message, from
anywhere on the planet over remote desktop, either from my N800 Linux
tablet or my laptop.
All storage is done safely on my UPS-backed office system so I only have
one database of traffic to contend with....no syncing, no trying to
figure out where the message went, no losing it over the sellphone
system. When I store it, it's stored right where it should be, in the
office RAID array where it's easy to find.
When you send a file/photo/video to someone, it goes out of the office
system at cable speed, not out of the portable slow as a turtle. If
someone sends me a big file, it takes no space from the portable device
memory to store, and doesn't suck up battery time waiting and waiting
for the slow sellphone downloads to kill the battery. It simply works
better....and the email system at the office downloads every hour so I
have no wait time at all. It's there when I call, large files, huge
pictures and all.
I finally got the interfacing between rdesktop on the Linux tablet and
Remote Desktop on the WinXP-SP2 box working so I can move files between
them over the same link, which is really cool....albeit slow if the link
is sellular, not wifi. The tablet's memory cards now show up in Windows
Explorer when I'm connected over rdesktop just as if it were a USB hard
drive plugged into the hub.
Remote Desktop is the way to fly. Iphone users will even believe you
have WinXP running on the Linux tablet when it's connected....(c; The
look on their faces seeing Google Earth on the tablet is PRICELESS...
There's a feature iPhone could use.....remote desktop!
> None of this would be an issue if you boys had a working SSH remote
> desktop.
This boy does. But why in God's name would I fire up a cumbersome remote
terminal access program just to check e-mail? My phone's e-mail client
grabs e-mail periodically so it's already downloaded and waiting for me
when I want to check it. I guarantee that regardless of how fast you can
make a remote connection, I'll have access faster, since it's ready there.
> I only use one email client, the one in my office on real broadband. I
> access it from this tablet, like I'm doing sending this message, from
> anywhere on the planet over remote desktop, either from my N800 Linux
> tablet or my laptop.
>
> All storage is done safely on my UPS-backed office system so I only have
> one database of traffic to contend with....no syncing, no trying to
> figure out where the message went, no losing it over the sellphone
> system. When I store it, it's stored right where it should be, in the
> office RAID array where it's easy to find.
Or you could just use IMAP, which handles it all for you.
> There's a feature iPhone could use.....remote desktop!
> As an FYI Gmail does IMAP now. I use it to poll and converge all of my
POP3
> accounts, placing them into proper categories.
Yeah, I Changed my GMail setup from POP to IMAP on my phone a few months ago.
Retrieval with POP was a little faster, but the ability to manipulate the
folders is an advantage that makes IMAP worth the slight speed hit.
Many e-mail providers support both POP and IMAP retrieval, and since IMAP
is far more suitable for multi-device access to e-mail, there are very few
reasons to stick with POP unless, perhaps, you're still on dialup, and
POP's quicker retrieval speed is an issue.
> I only use one email client, the one in my office on real broadband. I
> access it from this tablet, like I'm doing sending this message, from
> anywhere on the planet over remote desktop, either from my N800 Linux
> tablet or my laptop.
>
> All storage is done safely on my UPS-backed office system so I only have
> one database of traffic to contend with....no syncing, no trying to
> figure out where the message went, no losing it over the sellphone
Learn to spell, it's "cellphone", not "sellphone". If you don't like
what they're selling, don't buy it.
> When you send a file/photo/video to someone, it goes out of the office
> system at cable speed, not out of the portable slow as a turtle. If
Where is the file/photo/video that you're sending? If it's on your
local device, it will go out at whatever speed YOU are currently using.
If that's your CELLphone connected item, then it will go at your
CELLphone's speed, not your office broadband speed.
> someone sends me a big file, it takes no space from the portable device
> memory to store, and doesn't suck up battery time waiting and waiting
> for the slow sellphone downloads to kill the battery. It simply works
Wrong again. If you are viewing it on your CELLphone device, it will
take as long as your CELLphone network takes to pass the info on to
you. You're using your office system as a server. It's not the
server's speed that dictates how long it takes to retrieve and view
something, it's the speed of the client, which is whatever you're using
at the moment.
--
Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
The from userid is killfiled Send personal mail to gordol
"Oh, for the record if they kill me, this was not a good idea on my
part." (Marcus Cole, B5 "Exogenesis")
"Robert A. Fink, M. D." <lynxer@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:s838v350dahv6ikue7idkue6vgjo2mqram@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 21:03:03 -0700, "Kevin Weaver"
> <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>I've set mine to not delete from my phone. But delete from the home
>>system.
>
>
> Does the iPhone allow for such "selective" deletion? Pegasus Mail (on
> my desktop and laptops) allows for such.
>
> Best,
>
> Bob
>
> Robert A. Fink, M. D., FACS, P. C.
> Neurological Surgery
> 2500 Milvia Street Suite 222
> Berkeley, CA 94704-2636 USA
> 510-849-2555
>
> "Ex Tristitia Virtus"
Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in
news:ft0ajo$gre$1@aioe.org:
> This boy does. But why in God's name would I fire up a cumbersome
> remote terminal access program just to check e-mail? My phone's
> e-mail client grabs e-mail periodically so it's already downloaded and
> waiting for me when I want to check it. I guarantee that regardless
> of how fast you can make a remote connection, I'll have access faster,
> since it's ready there.
>
>
Ok by me. But, my emails have some pretty big attachments. Where do you
put them? How do you get them from the phone to the computer, download
them again off the server? That time must also be included.
The remote terminal is far from "cumbersome" on wifi, and not really bad on
EVDO. rdesktop is optimized to minimize bandwidth usage. it only updates
what needs updating. It's not a video shot of the screen, but you knew
that. The only drawback is the 500-800ms latency of the Sellphone data
links, but I'll live with that until the Wimax rollout.
Jeffrey Kaplan <nomail@gordol.org> wrote in
news:8vh7v39ib0g36v9h6optemvrkhh7o28ggi@gordol.org :
> Learn to spell, it's "cellphone", not "sellphone". If you don't like
> what they're selling, don't buy it.
>
>
Nope...it's STILL a SELLphone....a box office device to rent you stuff in
your pocket....just like your new digital TV box office device is....
Why does my little updated description upset you so?
I don't like what they're selling and I don't buy what I don't like. I buy
basic phone service and internet data. I don't buy
games/ringtones/Selltop/Axcess apps or glitz. I wish the damned thing was
butt ugly so the black market wouldn't target it as a stealable gadget
every time you turn your back on it.
I told them I'd buy MobiTV (Axcess TV, 25 channels on Alltel) IF they'd fix
the software so it had a FULL SCREEN landscape mode....not that shitty
little fingernail-sized picture they're selling now for $12/mo. I think it
has some value that interests me...if I could SEE the picture. But they
don't, so I don't....
Wanna buy something on your Sellphone??.....(c;
Maybe what you need is some company-controlled web forum where never a
discouraging word is uttered.....eh?
"Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:vWUIj.11639$qS5.9143@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com:
>> Does the iPhone allow for such "selective" deletion? Pegasus Mail
(on
>> my desktop and laptops) allows for such.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Bob
>
Dr Bob,
Just for reference, Pegasus responds very well to Remote Desktop
operation. I use it here to my Nokia N800 Linux tablet over Remote
desktop, even over the sellphone link, every day.
You can leave Pegasus running continuously, logon to remote desktop to
your laptop, tablet, your office PC with your IP/username/password and
have full control of Pegasus from the remote location. Works great, no
syncing, no sellphone funny business, no multiple storage confusion.
If a large file comes in, say some media or document or presentation,
Remote Desktop can be setup so the remote device, whatever it is, can
act like an external hard drive, straight from Windows Explorer on the
home desktop, for example. Simply click and drag the object to the
remote devices storage of your choice and remote desktop will copy it
there for your use....without destroying the master copy safely stored
on your main PC.
Iphone doesn't have remote desktop, but your laptop or office desktop
already does.
If you must carry it, I recommend the Nokia N800 $230 with a free
rdesktop from maemo.org's download section. Tons of very useful
software, all free. Real word processing with an external bluetooth
keyboard made to type on, real spreadsheets, several databases and other
useful tools already for use on it.
Got special medical software on the main PC? Remote desktop can operate
it from anyplace on the net. Ask your local IT or hacker to help you
set it up on your existing units. Once configured, the only thing it
won't do is run video/audio to the remote. For that, you download the
media and play it on the remote locally.
Most users have no idea it's already included on their Windows, MAC
desktops and laptops. There's no need to rent an external service to
use it.
If you can call up those Xrays of Mr Jones on your home PC, you can view
them from your laptop or internet tablet via remote desktop. Wouldn't
that be handier for your application?
In article <s838v350dahv6ikue7idkue6vgjo2mqram@4ax.com>,
"Robert A. Fink, M. D." <lynxer@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 21:03:03 -0700, "Kevin Weaver"
> <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >I've set mine to not delete from my phone. But delete from the home system.
>
>
> Does the iPhone allow for such "selective" deletion? Pegasus Mail (on
> my desktop and laptops) allows for such.
>
iPhone has setting to allow you to delete from server or not.
> Ok by me. But, my emails have some pretty big attachments. Where do you
> put them?
I set the e-mail client on my phone not to automatically download
attachments over 100kb (then I choose whether to download them if needed.)
> How do you get them from the phone to the computer, download
> them again off the server? That time must also be included.
IMAP is server based- since my PC has broadband, it looks at the IMAP
server continually, and downloads and archives whatever makes it through
the spam filters.
> The remote terminal is far from "cumbersome" on wifi, and not really bad
on
> EVDO. rdesktop is optimized to minimize bandwidth usage. it only
updates
> what needs updating. It's not a video shot of the screen, but you knew
> that. The only drawback is the 500-800ms latency of the Sellphone data
> links, but I'll live with that until the Wimax rollout.
Whatever works for you, I guess. Remote desktop to keep on top of your e-
mail seems like using a jackhammer to drive a finishing nail, but that's
just me...
> > Learn to spell, it's "cellphone", not "sellphone". If you don't like
> > what they're selling, don't buy it.
> Why does my little updated description upset you so?
Because it's childish.
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