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Old 03-13-2008, 06:26 PM
ncongm@gmail.com
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Default Should I get an iPhone or some other similar device? --

Hey all,
I'm seriously considering getting out of my current Verizon phone
contract and paying all the money I'm going to have to pay to make the
switch to something more robust.

Quick background --
I work for Big Corporate America where I'm essentially cut off from a
lot of things during the day while at work (thank god not Google
Groups.) I can't access my personal email (gmail, yahoo, road runner,
etc) and I'm blocked from a lot of websites. I need a device that
will allow me to at least check personal email (so I can cut down on
the amount of personal emails I get and make at work) and perhaps
access a few sites. [btw - when I've mentioned this before, people
go on tangental rants about how I shouldn't want to check personal
emails while at work, don't I work?, etc -- that's up to me and yes, I
do work -- very hard... but I've had enough of being cut off during
the day and being so restricted and until I can get another job that
liberates me I need a solution]

So I'm exploring options.

I'm thinking the best solution is to go with the iPhone, but I wanted
to get some feedback from users of either iPhones or other devices
(BlackBerry, Palm, etc) on what works, what doesn't work, what you can
do, what you can't do, features, things you don't like (usability),
things you like, etc.

Any feedback on devices is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

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Old 03-13-2008, 06:31 PM
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Default Re: Should I get an iPhone or some other similar device? --

<ncongm@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:c16bf0bd-4e2b-4012-b8ba-b402383d9311@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> Hey all,
> I'm seriously considering getting out of my current Verizon phone
> contract and paying all the money I'm going to have to pay to make the
> switch to something more robust.
>
> Quick background --
> I work for Big Corporate America where I'm essentially cut off from a
> lot of things during the day while at work (thank god not Google
> Groups.) I can't access my personal email (gmail, yahoo, road runner,
> etc) and I'm blocked from a lot of websites. I need a device that
> will allow me to at least check personal email (so I can cut down on
> the amount of personal emails I get and make at work) and perhaps
> access a few sites. [btw - when I've mentioned this before, people
> go on tangental rants about how I shouldn't want to check personal
> emails while at work, don't I work?, etc -- that's up to me and yes, I
> do work -- very hard... but I've had enough of being cut off during
> the day and being so restricted and until I can get another job that
> liberates me I need a solution]
>
> So I'm exploring options.
>
> I'm thinking the best solution is to go with the iPhone, but I wanted
> to get some feedback from users of either iPhones or other devices
> (BlackBerry, Palm, etc) on what works, what doesn't work, what you can
> do, what you can't do, features, things you don't like (usability),
> things you like, etc.
>
> Any feedback on devices is greatly appreciated.
> Thanks.



It's what works for you.
Go down and look at them all. What works for some, may not work for you.


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Old 03-13-2008, 06:37 PM
ncongm@gmail.com
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Default Re: Should I get an iPhone or some other similar device? --

On Mar 13, 2:31*pm, "Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithwea...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
> <nco...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:c16bf0bd-4e2b-4012-b8ba-b402383d9311@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hey all,
> > I'm seriously considering getting out of my current Verizon phone
> > contract and paying all the money I'm going to have to pay to make the
> > switch to something more robust.

>
> > Quick background --
> > I work for Big Corporate America where I'm essentially cut off from a
> > lot of things during the day while at work (thank god not Google
> > Groups.) *I can't access my personal email (gmail, yahoo, road runner,
> > etc) and I'm blocked from a lot of websites. *I need a device that
> > will allow me to at least check personal email (so I can cut down on
> > the amount of personal emails I get and make at work) and perhaps
> > access a few sites. *[btw - *when I've mentioned this before, people
> > go on tangental rants about how I shouldn't want to check personal
> > emails while at work, don't I work?, etc -- that's up to me and yes, I
> > do work -- very hard... but I've had enough of being cut off during
> > the day and being so restricted and until I can get another job that
> > liberates me I need a solution]

>
> > So I'm exploring options.

>
> > I'm thinking the best solution is to go with the iPhone, but I wanted
> > to get some feedback from users of either iPhones or other devices
> > (BlackBerry, Palm, etc) on what works, what doesn't work, what you can
> > do, what you can't do, features, things you don't like (usability),
> > things you like, etc.

>
> > Any feedback on devices is greatly appreciated.
> > Thanks.

>
> It's what works for you.
> Go down and look at them all. What works for some, may not work for you.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


I understand how to do the research and read the features. What I am
looking for is real-world feedback from people who use these devices.
Perhaps what works for one might be something I had not considered
before and therefore it was good to have heard what they had to say.

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Old 03-13-2008, 06:40 PM
Mayor of R'lyeh
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Default Re: Should I get an iPhone or some other similar device? --

On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:26:59 -0700 (PDT), "ncongm@gmail.com"
<ncongm@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hey all,
>I'm seriously considering getting out of my current Verizon phone
>contract and paying all the money I'm going to have to pay to make the
>switch to something more robust.
>
>Quick background --
>I work for Big Corporate America where I'm essentially cut off from a
>lot of things during the day while at work (thank god not Google
>Groups.) I can't access my personal email (gmail, yahoo, road runner,
>etc) and I'm blocked from a lot of websites. I need a device that
>will allow me to at least check personal email (so I can cut down on
>the amount of personal emails I get and make at work) and perhaps
>access a few sites. [btw - when I've mentioned this before, people
>go on tangental rants about how I shouldn't want to check personal
>emails while at work, don't I work?, etc -- that's up to me and yes, I
>do work -- very hard... but I've had enough of being cut off during
>the day and being so restricted and until I can get another job that
>liberates me I need a solution]
>
>So I'm exploring options.
>
>I'm thinking the best solution is to go with the iPhone, but I wanted
>to get some feedback from users of either iPhones or other devices
>(BlackBerry, Palm, etc) on what works, what doesn't work, what you can
>do, what you can't do, features, things you don't like (usability),
>things you like, etc.
>
>Any feedback on devices is greatly appreciated.
>Thanks.


You should get a computer for your home and read your personal email
there. I'm tired of having to work twice as hard to make up for lazy
leaches like you.



--

Why settle for the lesser evil?
Cthulhu for president 2008.

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Old 03-13-2008, 06:47 PM
ncongm@gmail.com
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Default Re: Should I get an iPhone or some other similar device? --

On Mar 13, 2:40*pm, Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.of.rl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:26:59 -0700 (PDT), "nco...@gmail.com"
>
>
>
>
>
> <nco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Hey all,
> >I'm seriously considering getting out of my current Verizon phone
> >contract and paying all the money I'm going to have to pay to make the
> >switch to something more robust.

>
> >Quick background --
> >I work for Big Corporate America where I'm essentially cut off from a
> >lot of things during the day while at work (thank god not Google
> >Groups.) *I can't access my personal email (gmail, yahoo, road runner,
> >etc) and I'm blocked from a lot of websites. *I need a device that
> >will allow me to at least check personal email (so I can cut down on
> >the amount of personal emails I get and make at work) and perhaps
> >access a few sites. *[btw - *when I've mentioned this before, people
> >go on tangental rants about how I shouldn't want to check personal
> >emails while at work, don't I work?, etc -- that's up to me and yes, I
> >do work -- very hard... but I've had enough of being cut off during
> >the day and being so restricted and until I can get another job that
> >liberates me I need a solution]

>
> >So I'm exploring options.

>
> >I'm thinking the best solution is to go with the iPhone, but I wanted
> >to get some feedback from users of either iPhones or other devices
> >(BlackBerry, Palm, etc) on what works, what doesn't work, what you can
> >do, what you can't do, features, things you don't like (usability),
> >things you like, etc.

>
> >Any feedback on devices is greatly appreciated.
> >Thanks.

>
> You should get a computer for your home and read your personal email
> there. I'm tired of having to work twice as hard to make up for lazy
> leaches like you.


HA! I was expecting some dumbass like you to troll this thread.

Unless you're a highly functioning manager, like me, in my department
and are overstepping your job function boundaries believe me -- you
will never make up for anything (I doubt you could anyway). Do you
actually think I don't have a computer at home?

<Mayor's ass is killfiled>

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Old 03-13-2008, 06:50 PM
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Default Re: Should I get an iPhone or some other similar device? --


<ncongm@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:c16bf0bd-4e2b-4012-b8ba-b402383d9311@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> Hey all,
> I'm seriously considering getting out of my current Verizon phone
> contract and paying all the money I'm going to have to pay to make the
> switch to something more robust.
>
> Quick background --
> I work for Big Corporate America where I'm essentially cut off from a
> lot of things during the day while at work (thank god not Google
> Groups.) I can't access my personal email (gmail, yahoo, road runner,
> etc) and I'm blocked from a lot of websites. I need a device that
> will allow me to at least check personal email (so I can cut down on
> the amount of personal emails I get and make at work) and perhaps
> access a few sites. [btw - when I've mentioned this before, people
> go on tangental rants about how I shouldn't want to check personal
> emails while at work, don't I work?, etc -- that's up to me and yes, I
> do work -- very hard... but I've had enough of being cut off during
> the day and being so restricted and until I can get another job that
> liberates me I need a solution]
>
> So I'm exploring options.
>
> I'm thinking the best solution is to go with the iPhone, but I wanted
> to get some feedback from users of either iPhones or other devices
> (BlackBerry, Palm, etc) on what works, what doesn't work, what you can
> do, what you can't do, features, things you don't like (usability),
> things you like, etc.
>
> Any feedback on devices is greatly appreciated.
> Thanks.


If you can't get on WiFi at work do not get an iPhone. EDGE is 100% unusable
for surfing. It takes over 3 minutes load EPSN.com. If you can get on a wifi
with it the browser is nice. The Blackberries tell you when you get an
email, the iPhone doesn't. You have to actually check, which is annoying. I
have both an BB8830 and an iPhone (won it for a doing a certain amount of
volume with an affiliatte network). Overall the BB gets the slight nod.


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Old 03-13-2008, 06:53 PM
Mayor of R'lyeh
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Default Re: Should I get an iPhone or some other similar device? --

On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:47:47 -0700 (PDT), "ncongm@gmail.com"
<ncongm@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mar 13, 2:40*pm, Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.of.rl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:26:59 -0700 (PDT), "nco...@gmail.com"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <nco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >Hey all,
>> >I'm seriously considering getting out of my current Verizon phone
>> >contract and paying all the money I'm going to have to pay to make the
>> >switch to something more robust.

>>
>> >Quick background --
>> >I work for Big Corporate America where I'm essentially cut off from a
>> >lot of things during the day while at work (thank god not Google
>> >Groups.) *I can't access my personal email (gmail, yahoo, road runner,
>> >etc) and I'm blocked from a lot of websites. *I need a device that
>> >will allow me to at least check personal email (so I can cut down on
>> >the amount of personal emails I get and make at work) and perhaps
>> >access a few sites. *[btw - *when I've mentioned this before, people
>> >go on tangental rants about how I shouldn't want to check personal
>> >emails while at work, don't I work?, etc -- that's up to me and yes, I
>> >do work -- very hard... but I've had enough of being cut off during
>> >the day and being so restricted and until I can get another job that
>> >liberates me I need a solution]

>>
>> >So I'm exploring options.

>>
>> >I'm thinking the best solution is to go with the iPhone, but I wanted
>> >to get some feedback from users of either iPhones or other devices
>> >(BlackBerry, Palm, etc) on what works, what doesn't work, what you can
>> >do, what you can't do, features, things you don't like (usability),
>> >things you like, etc.

>>
>> >Any feedback on devices is greatly appreciated.
>> >Thanks.

>>
>> You should get a computer for your home and read your personal email
>> there. I'm tired of having to work twice as hard to make up for lazy
>> leaches like you.

>
>HA! I was expecting some dumbass like you to troll this thread.


Translation: You don't want to hear the truth.

>
>Unless you're a highly functioning manager, like me,


Yeah, right. Playing on the computer all day and scheming to do it
even more makes you something but it isn't 'highly functioning'.

> in my department
>and are overstepping your job function boundaries believe me -- you
>will never make up for anything (I doubt you could anyway).


All of the work you don't do while you're playing has to be made up by
someone. And I know you don't have a job at my company. You'd have
been gone a long time ago with your work 'ethic'.

> Do you actually think I don't have a computer at home?


Maybe you should use it sometime then.

><Mayor's ass is killfiled>



Translation: The lazy coward can't stand to be told the truth.


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Old 03-13-2008, 06:58 PM
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"MuahMan" <muahman@cumcast.net> wrote in message
news:5LOdnc3YVN5X6kTanZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
> <ncongm@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:c16bf0bd-4e2b-4012-b8ba-b402383d9311@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> Hey all,
>> I'm seriously considering getting out of my current Verizon phone
>> contract and paying all the money I'm going to have to pay to make the
>> switch to something more robust.
>>
>> Quick background --
>> I work for Big Corporate America where I'm essentially cut off from a
>> lot of things during the day while at work (thank god not Google
>> Groups.) I can't access my personal email (gmail, yahoo, road runner,
>> etc) and I'm blocked from a lot of websites. I need a device that
>> will allow me to at least check personal email (so I can cut down on
>> the amount of personal emails I get and make at work) and perhaps
>> access a few sites. [btw - when I've mentioned this before, people
>> go on tangental rants about how I shouldn't want to check personal
>> emails while at work, don't I work?, etc -- that's up to me and yes, I
>> do work -- very hard... but I've had enough of being cut off during
>> the day and being so restricted and until I can get another job that
>> liberates me I need a solution]
>>
>> So I'm exploring options.
>>
>> I'm thinking the best solution is to go with the iPhone, but I wanted
>> to get some feedback from users of either iPhones or other devices
>> (BlackBerry, Palm, etc) on what works, what doesn't work, what you can
>> do, what you can't do, features, things you don't like (usability),
>> things you like, etc.
>>
>> Any feedback on devices is greatly appreciated.
>> Thanks.

>
> If you can't get on WiFi at work do not get an iPhone. EDGE is 100%
> unusable for surfing. It takes over 3 minutes load EPSN.com. If you can
> get on a wifi with it the browser is nice. The Blackberries tell you when
> you get an email, the iPhone doesn't. You have to actually check, which is
> annoying. I have both an BB8830 and an iPhone (won it for a doing a
> certain amount of volume with an affiliatte network). Overall the BB gets
> the slight nod.


Check out these graphs comparning the EDGE network and a EVDO network. Edge
=dialup

http://www.swivel.com/graphs/show/5122523


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Old 03-13-2008, 07:00 PM
ncongm@gmail.com
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Default Re: Should I get an iPhone or some other similar device? --

On Mar 13, 2:53*pm, Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.of.rl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:47:47 -0700 (PDT), "nco...@gmail.com"
>
>
>
>
>
> <nco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Mar 13, 2:40*pm, Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.of.rl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:26:59 -0700 (PDT), "nco...@gmail.com"

>
> >> <nco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >Hey all,
> >> >I'm seriously considering getting out of my current Verizon phone
> >> >contract and paying all the money I'm going to have to pay to make the
> >> >switch to something more robust.

>
> >> >Quick background --
> >> >I work for Big Corporate America where I'm essentially cut off from a
> >> >lot of things during the day while at work (thank god not Google
> >> >Groups.) *I can't access my personal email (gmail, yahoo, road runner,
> >> >etc) and I'm blocked from a lot of websites. *I need a device that
> >> >will allow me to at least check personal email (so I can cut down on
> >> >the amount of personal emails I get and make at work) and perhaps
> >> >access a few sites. *[btw - *when I've mentioned this before, people
> >> >go on tangental rants about how I shouldn't want to check personal
> >> >emails while at work, don't I work?, etc -- that's up to me and yes, I
> >> >do work -- very hard... but I've had enough of being cut off during
> >> >the day and being so restricted and until I can get another job that
> >> >liberates me I need a solution]

>
> >> >So I'm exploring options.

>
> >> >I'm thinking the best solution is to go with the iPhone, but I wanted
> >> >to get some feedback from users of either iPhones or other devices
> >> >(BlackBerry, Palm, etc) on what works, what doesn't work, what you can
> >> >do, what you can't do, features, things you don't like (usability),
> >> >things you like, etc.

>
> >> >Any feedback on devices is greatly appreciated.
> >> >Thanks.

>
> >> You should get a computer for your home and read your personal email
> >> there. I'm tired of having to work twice as hard to make up for lazy
> >> leaches like you.

>
> >HA! *I was expecting some dumbass like you to troll this thread.

>
> Translation: You don't want to hear the truth.
>
>
>
> >Unless you're a highly functioning manager, like me,

>
> Yeah, right. Playing on the computer all day and scheming to do it
> even more makes you something but it isn't 'highly functioning'.
>
> > in my department
> >and are overstepping your job function boundaries believe me -- you
> >will never make up for anything (I doubt you could anyway).

>
> All of the work you don't do while you're playing has to be made up by
> someone. And I know you don't have a job at my company. You'd have
> been gone a long time ago with your work 'ethic'.


Why do you think I don't do my work? I'm a top-rated performer every
year with nothing but accolades for what I produce. I get my work
done on time or ahead of deadlines without fail and go way more than
the extra mile. You've got a very twisted mentality.

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Old 03-13-2008, 07:00 PM
ncongm@gmail.com
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Default Re: Should I get an iPhone or some other similar device? --

On Mar 13, 2:50*pm, "MuahMan" <muah...@cumcast.net> wrote:
> <nco...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:c16bf0bd-4e2b-4012-b8ba-b402383d9311@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hey all,
> > I'm seriously considering getting out of my current Verizon phone
> > contract and paying all the money I'm going to have to pay to make the
> > switch to something more robust.

>
> > Quick background --
> > I work for Big Corporate America where I'm essentially cut off from a
> > lot of things during the day while at work (thank god not Google
> > Groups.) *I can't access my personal email (gmail, yahoo, road runner,
> > etc) and I'm blocked from a lot of websites. *I need a device that
> > will allow me to at least check personal email (so I can cut down on
> > the amount of personal emails I get and make at work) and perhaps
> > access a few sites. *[btw - *when I've mentioned this before, people
> > go on tangental rants about how I shouldn't want to check personal
> > emails while at work, don't I work?, etc -- that's up to me and yes, I
> > do work -- very hard... but I've had enough of being cut off during
> > the day and being so restricted and until I can get another job that
> > liberates me I need a solution]

>
> > So I'm exploring options.

>
> > I'm thinking the best solution is to go with the iPhone, but I wanted
> > to get some feedback from users of either iPhones or other devices
> > (BlackBerry, Palm, etc) on what works, what doesn't work, what you can
> > do, what you can't do, features, things you don't like (usability),
> > things you like, etc.

>
> > Any feedback on devices is greatly appreciated.
> > Thanks.

>
> If you can't get on WiFi at work do not get an iPhone. EDGE is 100% unusable
> for surfing. It takes over 3 minutes load EPSN.com. If you can get on a wifi
> with it the browser is nice. The Blackberries tell you when you get an
> email, the iPhone doesn't. You have to actually check, which is annoying. I
> have both an BB8830 and an iPhone (won it for a doing a certain amount of
> volume with an affiliatte network). Overall the BB gets the slight nod.- Hide quoted text -


Great feedback. Great to know. Thanks!

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Old 03-13-2008, 07:17 PM
Mayor of R'lyeh
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Default Re: Should I get an iPhone or some other similar device? --

On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:00:22 -0700 (PDT), "ncongm@gmail.com"
<ncongm@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mar 13, 2:53*pm, Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.of.rl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:47:47 -0700 (PDT), "nco...@gmail.com"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <nco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Mar 13, 2:40*pm, Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.of.rl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:26:59 -0700 (PDT), "nco...@gmail.com"

>>
>> >> <nco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >Hey all,
>> >> >I'm seriously considering getting out of my current Verizon phone
>> >> >contract and paying all the money I'm going to have to pay to make the
>> >> >switch to something more robust.

>>
>> >> >Quick background --
>> >> >I work for Big Corporate America where I'm essentially cut off from a
>> >> >lot of things during the day while at work (thank god not Google
>> >> >Groups.) *I can't access my personal email (gmail, yahoo, road runner,
>> >> >etc) and I'm blocked from a lot of websites. *I need a device that
>> >> >will allow me to at least check personal email (so I can cut down on
>> >> >the amount of personal emails I get and make at work) and perhaps
>> >> >access a few sites. *[btw - *when I've mentioned this before, people
>> >> >go on tangental rants about how I shouldn't want to check personal
>> >> >emails while at work, don't I work?, etc -- that's up to me and yes, I
>> >> >do work -- very hard... but I've had enough of being cut off during
>> >> >the day and being so restricted and until I can get another job that
>> >> >liberates me I need a solution]

>>
>> >> >So I'm exploring options.

>>
>> >> >I'm thinking the best solution is to go with the iPhone, but I wanted
>> >> >to get some feedback from users of either iPhones or other devices
>> >> >(BlackBerry, Palm, etc) on what works, what doesn't work, what you can
>> >> >do, what you can't do, features, things you don't like (usability),
>> >> >things you like, etc.

>>
>> >> >Any feedback on devices is greatly appreciated.
>> >> >Thanks.

>>
>> >> You should get a computer for your home and read your personal email
>> >> there. I'm tired of having to work twice as hard to make up for lazy
>> >> leaches like you.

>>
>> >HA! *I was expecting some dumbass like you to troll this thread.

>>
>> Translation: You don't want to hear the truth.
>>
>>
>>
>> >Unless you're a highly functioning manager, like me,

>>
>> Yeah, right. Playing on the computer all day and scheming to do it
>> even more makes you something but it isn't 'highly functioning'.
>>
>> > in my department
>> >and are overstepping your job function boundaries believe me -- you
>> >will never make up for anything (I doubt you could anyway).

>>
>> All of the work you don't do while you're playing has to be made up by
>> someone. And I know you don't have a job at my company. You'd have
>> been gone a long time ago with your work 'ethic'.

>
>Why do you think I don't do my work?


Because you bragged about not doing your work. Could that be it?

> I'm a top-rated performer every
>year with nothing but accolades for what I produce.


This is Usenet. We're all top rated managers, CEOs and
multi-millionaires who spend our time hobnobbing with the rich and
famous when we're not posting.
The truth is that you're most likely some boring guy with some boring
run of the mill job. Every place I've ever worked the guys like you
who played on the Internet were the ones no one counted on to get
anything done. Everyone else in their department did all the work no
matter what the offenders rank. If you really are a 'top rated'
manager its because your people are carrying the load you should be
shouldering and you're taking the credit.

> I get my work
>done on time or ahead of deadlines without fail and go way more than
>the extra mile. You've got a very twisted mentality.


No, I've got experience with lazy leaches like you represent yourself
to be.
And your killfile seems to be broken.



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Why settle for the lesser evil?
Cthulhu for president 2008.

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MuahMan wrote:

> Check out these graphs comparning the EDGE network and a EVDO network.
> Edge =dialup


both are primitive and on the way out.

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"nospamatall" <nospamatall@iol.ie> wrote in message
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> MuahMan wrote:
>
>> Check out these graphs comparning the EDGE network and a EVDO network.
>> Edge =dialup

>
> both are primitive and on the way out.



He wasn't asking which device to get in 3-5 years. So your advice is go
with super slow Edge? Dialup speeds are really what you suggest?


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On 2008-03-13 09:00:44 -1000, "ncongm@gmail.com" <ncongm@gmail.com> said:

> On Mar 13, 2:50*pm, "MuahMan" <muah...@cumcast.net> wrote:
>> <nco...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:c16bf0bd-4e2b-4012-b8ba-b402383d9311@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hey all,
>>> I'm seriously considering getting out of my current Verizon phone
>>> contract and paying all the money I'm going to have to pay to make the
>>> switch to something more robust.

>>
>>> Quick background --
>>> I work for Big Corporate America where I'm essentially cut off from a
>>> lot of things during the day while at work (thank god not Google
>>> Groups.) *I can't access my personal email (gmail, yahoo, road runner,

>
>>> etc) and I'm blocked from a lot of websites. *I need a device that
>>> will allow me to at least check personal email (so I can cut down on
>>> the amount of personal emails I get and make at work) and perhaps
>>> access a few sites. *[btw - *when I've mentioned this before, people

>
>>> go on tangental rants about how I shouldn't want to check personal
>>> emails while at work, don't I work?, etc -- that's up to me and yes, I
>>> do work -- very hard... but I've had enough of being cut off during
>>> the day and being so restricted and until I can get another job that
>>> liberates me I need a solution]

>>
>>> So I'm exploring options.

>>
>>> I'm thinking the best solution is to go with the iPhone, but I wanted
>>> to get some feedback from users of either iPhones or other devices
>>> (BlackBerry, Palm, etc) on what works, what doesn't work, what you can
>>> do, what you can't do, features, things you don't like (usability),
>>> things you like, etc.

>>
>>> Any feedback on devices is greatly appreciated.
>>> Thanks.

>>
>> If you can't get on WiFi at work do not get an iPhone. EDGE is 100% unusab

> le
>> for surfing. It takes over 3 minutes load EPSN.com. If you can get on a wi

> fi
>> with it the browser is nice. The Blackberries tell you when you get an
>> email, the iPhone doesn't. You have to actually check, which is annoying.

> I
>> have both an BB8830 and an iPhone (won it for a doing a certain amount of
>> volume with an affiliatte network). Overall the BB gets the slight nod.- H

> ide quoted text -
>
> Great feedback. Great to know. Thanks!


While the initial complaint is indeed true - that EDGE is indeed slower
than EDVO - it takes a bit more to pull up ESPN.com than, say,
macrumors.com on a cell phone. Additionally, he's leaving out that on
the iPhone, with a REAL browser, you get the real webpage (minus flash
and java), not the WAP version, also known as the wannabe internet for
those mobile devices that can't hack it.

I'll stop ranting against the non-Mac people here. In June, iPhone
firmware 2.0 will be released. That release will have enterprise
support for iPhone, so the Crackberry will most certainly seen less and
less in the workspace. I bought my iPhone on the first day, and have
never looked back. I'm not allowed to use it on my company's network,
and the building in which I work has extra shielding against emanations
(thank you, US Army grrrr), so any cellphone is pretty much useless
about 3-5 feet inboard of the exterior windows/walls.

I have used a Treo before and believe me, you will LOVE the typing on
the iPhone, once you get accustomed to the keyboard layout. Thank God
for no tiny chiclet styled "keys". It's not that I have large fingers,
but it's much easier to type on my iPhone than on my former Treo, which
was dumped for the iPhone. Yes, there are more apps for the Treo and
Crackberry, but that will change in June, once developers can start
distributing their iPhone apps.

I say wait until at least late June to do an honest comparison between
the iPhone and the pretenders. You can tell by my comments that I am
heavily biased towards the iPhone, but that's because, at least for me,
there is NO other phone that can compare. You must do your own
research, but wait until at least late June, so that the iPhone will
have a comparable enterprise-level software suite and the beginning of
new apps.


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"nospamatall" <nospamatall@iol.ie> wrote in message
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> MuahMan wrote:
>
>> Check out these graphs comparning the EDGE network and a EVDO network.
>> Edge =dialup

>
> both are primitive and on the way out.




Might be primitive but not on the way out.
You think AT&T would just let all the iPhone users out of a contract ?


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"HawaiiMacAddict" wrote in message
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> On 2008-03-13 09:00:44 -1000, "ncongm@gmail.com" <ncongm@gmail.com> said:


> While the initial complaint is indeed true - that EDGE is indeed slower
> than EDVO - it takes a bit more to pull up ESPN.com than, say,
> macrumors.com on a cell phone. Additionally, he's leaving out that on the
> iPhone, with a REAL browser, you get the real webpage (minus flash and
> java), not the WAP version, also known as the wannabe internet for those
> mobile devices that can't hack it.


And yet, despite the "REAL browser," many websites have created "iPhone
formatted webpages." Which, of course, makes perfect sense, because mobile
formatted webpages (like WAP, XHTML, etc.) have multiple purpose- one, of
course, is for the less-featured browsers of "wannabe" phones, but
stripped-down sites also help deal with the small displays (even the
iPhone's beautiful display is a tenth of the size of a laptop monitor- just
because it CAN display a "real" page doesn't make it comfortable to read!
Also, mobile pages load quickly even with the less-than-broadband speeds
many phones work at. ESPN's WAP page loads much quicker than their real
page!

I use a good many WAP/mobile webpages on my home PC (at least the ones that
let me and don't use my User Agent to redirect me to the "real" site.
Accuweather's PDA page (before they ruined it!) used to pop up a nice simple
5-day forcast without animated GIFs, popups and adverts of the full
Accuweather site.


> I'll stop ranting against the non-Mac people here. In June, iPhone
> firmware 2.0 will be released. That release will have enterprise support
> for iPhone, so the Crackberry will most certainly seen less and less in
> the workspace.


Doubtful. The iPhone will support Exchange, not BES. Too many corporations
are hung up on the perceived advantages of BES to switch. Windows Mobile
introduced EAS (Exchange over Activesync- the Exchange support the iPhone
will use) several years ago and it hasn't convinced the enterprise to give
up BES.

What iPhone enterprise support WILL do, is let the corporate higher-ups use
their personal iPhones for Exchange without giving the IT guys heart attacks
about "security." The rank-and-file will still be Crackberried.




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nospamatall wrote:
> MuahMan wrote:
>
>> Check out these graphs comparning the EDGE network and a EVDO network.
>> Edge =dialup

>
> both are primitive and on the way out.


Compared to what comparable and available technology?

Don't suggest nation wide fantasy WiFi like Oxford did or undeployed
LTE.

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Old 03-14-2008, 02:38 AM
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"ncongm@gmail.com" <ncongm@gmail.com> wrote in news:c16bf0bd-4e2b-4012-
b8ba-b402383d9311@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

> Any feedback on devices is greatly appreciated.
> Thanks.
>
>


I'm gonna catch hell, but it rolls off pretty quick.....

Iphone is a WebTV device. It will do emails, browse webpages, but
requires hacking, voiding any warranty and the required ATT ToS to do
so. Caveat Emptor.

A much more sensable approach for your problem would be to keep your
current cellphone carrier you don't seem angry with and get one of his
Bluetooth phones that supports DUN (dial up networking) for a small
extra charge, not a full-blown aircard contract at $60+. Make SURE your
carrier permits "tethering" a computer to the phone on their system. If
you are a Verizon customer, you're pretty screwed already with their
stupid limited data service of 5GB/mo for $50 + 50 cents per MEGABYTE,
not gigabyte, over that....a real ripoff similar to SMS.

Ok, you have a tetherable phone. Do you already have a laptop you carry
around with you? If so, you need only a USB cable or Bluetooth dongle
that plugs into the USB port on the laptop to tether the laptop to the
phone for data. Your laptop is ALWAYS better than any handheld toy
gadget for typing, reading, using as a computer, not a video game and
MP3 player. The tethered device is NOT controlled by some SELLphone
carrier hell bent on keeping any app that actually uses the bandwidth
they are selling over as tiny a bit of data as they can get away
with....email and simple webpage browsing. What nonsense. THEY control
everything on a Sellphone so they can sell you more and nickel and dime
you to death every month's billing cycle. Your laptop is out of their
reach and remains as unincumbered as it has always been. The IT
department in your company might, however, have locked up the company
laptop to prevent you from tethering it. Ask them what the policy is.
They USUALLY don't bite, even when growling how stupid everyone else in
the company is. Pocket some Meaty Bones before going to IT is not a bad
idea....

If you don't want to know about Nokia's tablet, stop reading here....

If you MUST have near-pocket portability, or sit daydreaming of the
chick factor of such a device, I have made the right decision for myself
by buying the really cool Nokia N800 internet tablet, which will
bluetooth connect to the phone for on-the-go internet service the phone
provides wirelessly to it, or will connect to ANY wifi internet service
that allows it to connect:
http://www.nseries.com/n800
http://www.nseries.com/n810
are the company webpages with neat flash sales toys.

There is a marked difference between the Iphone and these devices. The
Iphone is tightly controlled by Apple, and to a lesser extent because of
a honey deal with Apple ATT Wireless, formerly called Cingular. This
device hooks to a 2G EDGE system that is only slightly faster than your
old dialup modem....slower than dirt. Being free to connect the N800 to
ANY system you desire, not just ATT or T-mobile (if hacked), you are
free to negotiate the best data deal with the fastest carrier who permit
unlimited, unencumbered internet service at the best price. In the
Southeast, that is Alltel, $25/mo for high speed EVDO internet at 800-
1200 kbps, depending upon the system load and where you are. Alltel
provides great service, here, not limited, as is ATT, to just cities and
on interstate corridors. Alltel doesn't care what I run on their system
and hasn't complained of my heavy usage streaming
video/audio/downloading software/etc., as long as I pay my bill...the
way it should be. $25/mo is EXTRA, not my cellphone bill, which is $39
for 800 minutes with free N/W, M2M, long distance, etc. The point is
YOU are free to chose who YOU want to be your data carrier, not Apple
Corp. and its "partners" ATT.

The tablet runs a version of Debian Linux called Maemo for tablets,
designed and fully supported by Nokia, the largest wireless company in
the world. Nokia is totally committed to open source Linux development
and the N810 is the 3rd generation tablet to prove it. My 2nd
generation tablet is FREE to upgrade to the OS2008 version of Maemo
Linux by simply running a simple Windows program that reflashes the
tablet and NEVER leaves you with a useless brick! Even if you do
something really nasty and crash the whole operating system on the
device, you are a couple of clicks and 8 minutes away from restoring it
and starting over as if the tablet just came out of the box....it's
really simple.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT LINUX OR BE A HACKER TO USE THIS
DEVICE!

Nokia handed out hundreds of tablets to the Linux geniuses, created
maemo.org web domain to give them a place to operate from and provide
the common user owners a central repository of software that installs by
a simple click on a GREEN ARROW on the software's download page,
directly from the tablet. It's much simpler to install Linux software
to the N800/N810 than it is to your Windows XP or Vista because of an
application manager that is part of the Maemo operating system. The
silly thing even updates ALL the software at once from a central server
at the click of one button on application manager. It's VERY simple to
operate and update and use.

Browse to http://www.maemo.org/ and have a look around. Enter:
N800
or N810
into Youtube.com and there are lots of nice videos showing newbies how
to install and use the tablet for your viewing pleasure. There is also
an open forum where very experienced tablet hackers provide excellent
support to users for free:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/
The website belongs to a very dedicated tablet hacker and has become a
central forum for tablet owners and developers to help each other and
share ideas. Feel free to join the forums and ask these guys the most
pointed questions about its use and utility in your environment.

Your company IT guys are all Linux lovers. Owning the tablet will
endear you to them and will make them, also, a great source of help and
encouragement. Don't worry about becoming a Linux expert until you just
can't stand it any more. YOU are in full control of the tablet. There
are real Linux tools to take you to that day. When you're ready, you
can have full root access to the device without begging some corporation
to let you do what you want......or not, up to YOU, not "them". I bet
your IT guys have them, already. They are not "new", just out. The
N800 is over a year old, its bugs very maturely fixed. It never crashes
and its apps are LINUX, not Microsoft, so when an app crashes, it
doesn't bring down the house with it like Win apps do.

At Maemo.org, look in the DOWNLOAD section at the current list of user
software available for the tablet. The OS2007 has over 200 apps for
free from these Linux geniuses across the planet. There are other apps
not listed from other sources, too!

The email app from Nokia is a compact, full-featured email client, but
there are other email programs the hackers wrote that have other
features they didn't find in the standard client. YOU choose, not
"them".

The tablet has many ways of inputting text, not just finger-width large
buttons of the iPhone's capacitive finger screen. (Iphone does not have
an accurate, finely pitched, touchscreen. That's the reason it has no
stylus. There's no need. The N800 uses a virtual stylus keyboard with
its PDA-style stylus that resembles, onscreen, the keyboard of your PC,
complete with a 10-key numeric keypad that triple shifts to get every
one of the 256 ASCII character set, not just letters and numbers. If
you touch a text entry box with the stylus, N800 pops up the stylus
keyboard UNDER the app, not in place of it, so you can see it filling
the box. If you touch the box with your finger, N800 pops up a FULL
SCREEN finger keyboard with pads larger than iPhone for easy finger
entry. I don't like fingers because they always leave some kind of
residue from the fingers behind you have to clean off. The stylus is
much more precise, to the width of its tiny pointed end, and leaves no
marks....especially during lunch! The tablet also supports taking the
stylus and simply "writing" in your own handwriting right into the box
or line or word processor as if you were making a note. The tablet's OS
will convert your written text, in your own handwriting, into typed
characters, all of them. There is a learning utility in its control
panel you use just once to show the tablet your handwriting so it
doesn't have to guess what that squiggly line with the little tale is no
human has ever written before. Writing on it, once it learns, is easy
and quite natural. Some smartasses just posted a "sticky notes"
program, ported from desktop Linux, that actually lets you leave a hand
written sticky note. There are several stylus drawing programs for the
tablet. I use them to make schematics of electronic circuits I'm either
designing or fixing. I use Abiword (www.abisource.com). There is a
specially-formatted version for the Nokia tablets of this full-featured
word processor you can also download for free for your desktop
(linux/Windows or OSX on the Mac). A whole suite of office apps for
Linux has been ported to the little tablets, already. These are mature,
stable and very complex programs that the Linux community has been
working on for years. You'll see Gnumeric on maemo.org, a massive,
full-featured spreadsheet program so vast I don't know what half its
mathematical functions actually do. I'm not mathematician. Gnumeric
was designed by mathematicians for Linux for many years. It's tablet
port merely makes better use of the small screen. Gnumeric is also
available for your PC, if you like. There are several database
programs, SSH client and server programs to connect securely to your
corporate SSH system, and other office-type softwares available. Most
webpages use the Apache Linux webpage server. It's even been ported to
the tablet. You can have a web server in your pocket, once you get
interested in being one.

Communications.....

The tablet was purchased here, initially as the first pocketable device
that supported Skype, the really neat internet phone system....that
would logon to free wifi servers in airports, restaurants, hotels that
require a WEB BROWSER to logon to their free wifi hotspots. I'm an avid
Skype user and supporter since its inception way back. Skype is a
fantastic communications device for audio, video, file sharing, texting,
conferencing, broadcasting that has 256-bit encryption even the NSA
isn't going to hack to listen to you tell your girlfriend what terrible
fetish you are going to involve her with, tonight....making her squirm
in anticipation. Skype is free, unless you want to interconnect it to
the world's telephone system. Read about it www.skype.com. Skype Pro
talks to 20 countries for $3/mo and all the others for a small
fee/minute...FAR LESS THAN SELLPHONE ripoff charges. To date, the
tablet's small webcam isn't supported by Skype, my only beef with it.

The webcam IS supported by other web comm apps such as Google Talk,
Yahoo, and the other freebies. You press a little button on the left
end of the N800 and the webcam pops out against your finger. It rotates
270 degrees so you can point it away from the tablet, automatically
flipping the image so its upright, so you can show your friends what
"she" looks like on the stage of your favorite strip joint. It's NOT A
GOOD STILL CAMERA, but your sellphone already has a good camera. The
tablet cams ARE good WEBCAMS the phones will never support because they
use bandwidth and the sellphone company doesn't like it. A hacker wrote
"Peekaboo" for the tablets. Peekaboo is a full web server for the
little camera. You pop out the cam and close the automatically-booting
video comm app to Googletalk. Boot Peekaboo and it connects to the cam
noting your IP. To see what the cam sees, with full audio, you only
need to boot a browser anywhere on the planet and browse to the Peekaboo
website it creates on your IP when you boot it:
http://(your IP address)/
Of course, you'll need the simple tutorial, right?
http://peekaboo.garage.maemo.org/tutorial.html
No....don't think about it....Your girlfriend will KILL YOU!...(C;
Watch the video on this webpage and it will show you how really EASY and
SIMPLE it is to install any user apps on the tablets....He installs and
operates Peekaboo for you.

STORAGE - REMOVABLE AND UNENCUMBERED

The N800 supports TWO SDHC common memory cards, one "internal" inside
the battery cover (YES, UNLIKE IPHONE YOU CAN CHANGE THE COMMONLY
AVAILABLE NOKIA CELLPHONE BATTERY THAT POWERS THE TABLET BY JUST POPPING
IT OUT!), and one "external" memory card inside a little plastic door
under the handle, which also serves as a tilt stand so you can watch the
latest movies. I've just upgraded my storage on my N800 to 32GB using
two A-Data 16GB SDHC Class 6 Turbo memory cards from Newegg.com for $59
ea.! STANDARD memory is SO cheap! 32GB is a massive storage on a Linux
computer where the program files are TINY!, compared to OSX or Windows.
The big apps are 2-4MB. The small apps are 20K! Linux apps are TINY!
But, alas, they soon fill up with music and movies and satellite mosaic
photos for Maemo Mapper or Navicore talking GPS navigation software....
(sigh).

DISPLAY - a comparison......

Iphone -
Display 16M colors
Size 320 x 480 pixels, 3.5 inches

N8xx tablets -
http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT9561669149.html
"Along with an ARM1136 core clocked at 320MHz, the OMAP2420 integrates a
220MHz TMS320C55x DSP (digital signal processor) and an Imagination
Technologies PowerVR MBX graphics coprocessor. The SoC also integrates a
veritable panoply of on-chip peripheral interfaces."
THE FEATURES ON THIS WEBPAGE ARE WAY OUT OF DATE. 32GB MEMORY WORKS, if
you can afford it.

The tablet has a full-featured DSP and Imagination Technologies PowerVR
MBX 3D graphics coprocessor. The display is a REAL 800 pixels wide, not
half a webpage, the whole webpage! The video played from a DivX movie
looks just like HDTV, even after compressing it to save storage memory
space with the really neat Media Converter the Linux hackers wrote for
it....yet another free app:
https://garage.maemo.org/projects/mediaconverter/
Media Converter is for Linux/Windows/Mac and is great even if you never
buy the tablet. A full length Divx movie in MP4 format that will play
on most sellphones is only 380KB and is beautiful!
800 pixels wide means you need not ZOOM in and out to look at webpages.
You get to see the FULL WIDTH. A button puts the tablet in full-screen
mode.

Well, as you may tell, I did my homework and am thrilled with the
results. I also don't like corporations telling me what I can and can't
do, at their whim...whether Apple or some SELLphone company. That
sucks.

Go to:
http://youtube.com/results?search_qu...0&search_type=
and the other tablet addicts will show you more. Watch about Maemo
Mapper and the tiny GPS receiver for it. I also have the Nokia folding
Bluetooth keyboard to write those emails WITHOUT the two fingered or
thumb typing, which always sucks over 10 characters....(c;

Oh, all this is MUCH CHEAPER than Iphone, too!:
http://www.buy.com/retail/usersearchresults.asp?
querytype=home&qu=Nokia+N800&qxt=home&display=col& dclksa=1
$232

Oh, no! They got something NEW! Sandisk Video Memory Card Recorder!
AND THEY GOT A DEAL WITH THE TABLET!!.....argggh....





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Alan Baker
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In article <5LOdnc3YVN5X6kTanZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"MuahMan" <muahman@cumcast.net> wrote:

> You have to actually check, which is annoying. I
> have both an BB8830 and an iPhone (won it for a doing a certain amount of
> volume with an affiliatte network).


Huh...

A trust fund baby does work for affiliate networks?

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

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HawaiiMacAddict wrote in news:47d9b12a$0$17324$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:

> Additionally, he's leaving out that on
> the iPhone, with a REAL browser, you get the real webpage (minus flash
>


Real web browsers have Flash and can play Youtube videos without a special
conversion website....(c;


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Old 03-14-2008, 04:27 AM
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On Mar 13, 11:07*pm, Larry <no...@home.com> wrote:
> HawaiiMacAddict wrote innews:47d9b12a$0$17324$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>
> > Additionally, he's leaving out that on
> > the iPhone, with a REAL browser, you get the real webpage (minus flash

>
> Real web browsers have Flash and can play Youtube videos without a special
> conversion website....(c


REAL WEB BROWSERS AND FLASH ARE INSECURE

There is a huge downside to flash!

Web sites can place secret flash cookies on your device for tracking
you. These are almost impossible to delete as they are not normal
cookies but a secret feature of flash. Banks love flash for this
reason. Now you tell me who is the smart one Apple or the sheep who
demand a browser with Macromedia's flash code?

Do a web search for the involved directions for deleting and blocking
flash cookies. That is not a fun process and most will not be able to
do it. Hello, I bet most Verizon and Sprint users were unaware of the
existance of web sites using flash tracking options on their devices
including their PC.

AT&T iPhone users do not have that worry.


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ncongm@gmail.com wrote:
> Hey all,
> I'm seriously considering getting out of my current Verizon phone
> contract and paying all the money I'm going to have to pay to make the
> switch to something more robust.
>
> Quick background --
> I work for Big Corporate America where I'm essentially cut off from a
> lot of things during the day while at work (thank god not Google
> Groups.) I can't access my personal email (gmail, yahoo, road runner,
> etc) and I'm blocked from a lot of websites. I need a device that
> will allow me to at least check personal email (so I can cut down on
> the amount of personal emails I get and make at work) and perhaps
> access a few sites. [btw - when I've mentioned this before, people
> go on tangental rants about how I shouldn't want to check personal
> emails while at work, don't I work?, etc -- that's up to me and yes, I
> do work -- very hard... but I've had enough of being cut off during
> the day and being so restricted and until I can get another job that
> liberates me I need a solution]
>
> So I'm exploring options.
>
> I'm thinking the best solution is to go with the iPhone, but I wanted
> to get some feedback from users of either iPhones or other devices
> (BlackBerry, Palm, etc) on what works, what doesn't work, what you can
> do, what you can't do, features, things you don't like (usability),
> things you like, etc.
>
> Any feedback on devices is greatly appreciated.
> Thanks.


The iPhone would be fine for what you describe, and a joy to use to boot.
I've owned one since July. Sorry about some of the idiots who have already
replied. This place (a.c.a) seems to have more than its share, at least when
the subject of the iPhone comes up. They obsess over a device they proclaim
to not care about. Very strange.

Don't believe the comments that EDGE is unusable too: I use it every single
day and have no complaints with it. Plus, you asked if it was OK for email
and perhaps a few Website. Of course it is. Sure, WiFi is faster, but that
by no means makes EDGE "100% unusable" <chuckle>.

In any case this is not the place to get an objective opinion. If you
haven't already, go down to an Apple store and try one for yourself.

Finally, there is another option. You can buy an iPhone and unlock it. This
can be done in less than 2 minutes with an app called ZiPhone. Anyone can do
it now. It will also let you access the hundreds, if not thousands, of
downloads for the iPhone--and I mean real third-party apps, not Web apps.
Some of these apps are truly amazing, and unlike anything available for
other platforms (iPhysics, for example). At the very least this will let you
try out the iPhone without committing to a contract with at&t.

Also visit everythingicafe.com to see how iPhone users feel about the
device. Surely you will find people in the same situation as you, though
keep in mind some are also diehard Apple supporters who like anything made
by Apple.



--
Mike



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Old 03-14-2008, 05:43 AM
MuahMan
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"Alan Baker" <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote in message
news:alangbaker-8F1C48.19532413032008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]...
> In article <5LOdnc3YVN5X6kTanZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "MuahMan" <muahman@cumcast.net> wrote:
>
>> You have to actually check, which is annoying. I
>> have both an BB8830 and an iPhone (won it for a doing a certain amount of
>> volume with an affiliatte network).

>
> Huh...
>
> A trust fund baby does work for affiliate networks?
>
> --
> Alan Baker
> Vancouver, British Columbia
> "If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
> to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
> sit in the bottom of that cupboard."


Yeah, do 15k a month with Azoogle. You get a free iPhone. I wake up at noon
and hit send, then go to the beach.


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Old 03-14-2008, 05:45 AM
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AT&T iPhone users do not have that worry.


They don't have that worry not for the lack of flash but rather because you
get tired of waiting 3-5 minutes for the page to load and go do something
else. EDGE is fucking terrible. That you mactards try to make it sound good
is hysterical.


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