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Old 08-14-2008, 06:21 PM
4phun
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Default Test your iPhone at the TestmyiPhone.com network site

http://www.tuaw.com/2008/08/05/3g-ip...-2-0-1-update/

Apple claims the 3G is fast, but with all the problems with 3Gs
connecting all over the world, just how fast is it really? The folks
at Wired.com have decided to find out, and they need your help. They'd
like you to test your iPhone at the TestmyiPhone.com network speed
testing site, and then hit up their global ZeeMap to register your
speed.
http://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=98342

http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/0...ne-global.html
Instructions are over on their website, and they're testing both Edge
and 3G upload and download speeds, so you'll have to run three tests
total. You'll also have to sign up for a ZeeMap account.

The eventual payoff will be a relatively clear look at iPhone speeds
around the world. Wired says that they'll eventually average global
data, but there's a lot of things that could be done with data like
this -- heatmaps? Speed per carrier? Once they get a good set of
figures together, there's probably all kinds of things that can be
done.

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Old 08-15-2008, 02:29 AM
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4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:2f4636cc-073e-47d6-aa47-
f52b7bb4bbec@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

> http://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=98342


Address: 80 Aberdeen St
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1S
3G Download Speed 357
3G Upload Speed 185

Kurt's New iPhone
White Plains, New York 10601
3G Download Speed 338
3G Upload Speed 146
Carrier At&T

Whew! Breathtaking!

Remember that 4GB video file in my long post? Forget downloading it, ok?


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Old 08-15-2008, 03:14 AM
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On Aug 14, 9:29*pm, Larry <no...@home.com> wrote:
> 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote in news:2f4636cc-073e-47d6-aa47-
> f52b7bb4b...@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
>
> >http://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=98342

>
> Address: 80 Aberdeen St
> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1S
> 3G Download Speed 357
> 3G Upload Speed 185
>
> Kurt's New iPhone
> White Plains, New York 10601
> 3G Download Speed 338
> 3G Upload Speed 146
> Carrier At&T
>
> Whew! *Breathtaking!
>
> Remember that 4GB video file in my long post? *Forget downloading it, ok?


That is not 3g. That is EDGE.
Compare that to the typical iPhone that gets 4148 or more on wifi.


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Old 08-15-2008, 04:04 AM
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4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:31f5db31-44ec-4758-9cc4-
3f002d799f6a@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:

> That is not 3g. That is EDGE.
> Compare that to the typical iPhone that gets 4148 or more on wifi.
>
>
>


That's 3G. Edge is around 100-150Kbps....

If your wifi only goes 4148, it's probably because the buffer overflows and
halts the delivery to give the little phone time to unload it.

http://speedtest.knology.net/
How fast does it say it goes from here?


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Old 08-15-2008, 05:24 AM
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At 14 Aug 2008 19:14:52 -0700 4phun wrote:

> > >http://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=98342

> >
> > Address: 80 Aberdeen St
> > Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1S
> > 3G Download Speed 357
> > 3G Upload Speed 185
> >
> > Kurt's New iPhone
> > White Plains, New York 10601
> > 3G Download Speed 338
> > 3G Upload Speed 146
> > Carrier At&T
> >
> > Whew! *Breathtaking!
> >
> > Remember that 4GB video file in my long post? *Forget downloading it,

ok?
>
> That is not 3g. That is EDGE.



No, that's 3G- EDGE tops out at about 200k down, and 40k or so up.


> Compare that to the typical iPhone that gets 4148 or more on wifi.



I love it when people quote WiFi speed, since "WiFi" doesn't tell us what
kind of internet connection lies behind the WiFi router. I have a 1.5Mbit
DSL connection at home. I dare you to get "4148" kbits/sec on an internet
download with it! ;-)



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Old 08-15-2008, 05:54 AM
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Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:

> I love it when people quote WiFi speed, since "WiFi" doesn't tell us what
> kind of internet connection lies behind the WiFi router. I have a 1.5Mbit
> DSL connection at home. I dare you to get "4148" kbits/sec on an internet
> download with it! ;-)


true, but i've hit 8210 via wifi, but was directly on the NSFnet
backbone at the time

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Old 08-15-2008, 06:03 AM
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On Aug 14, 11:04*pm, Larry <no...@home.com> wrote:
> 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote in news:31f5db31-44ec-4758-9cc4-
> 3f002d799...@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>
> > That is not 3g. That is EDGE.
> > Compare that to the typical iPhone that gets 4148 or more on wifi.

>
> That's 3G. *Edge is around 100-150Kbps....
>
> If your wifi only goes 4148, it's probably because the buffer overflows and
> halts the delivery to give the little phone time to unload it. *
>
> http://speedtest.knology.net/
> How fast does it say it goes from here?


Larry I ran the test on AT&T EDGE and I got 316. I can send you the
screen shot which proves it. Another nice feaure built into the
iPhone!



Speed tests very widely based on the location of the computer you are
connecting to.Check speedtest.net for a nice global testing system.





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Old 08-15-2008, 05:31 PM
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4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in
news:a7275cf4-8087-454b-8085-8d434a627e1a@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

> On Aug 14, 11:04*pm, Larry <no...@home.com> wrote:
>> 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote in news:31f5db31-44ec-4758-9cc4-
>> 3f002d799...@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > That is not 3g. That is EDGE.
>> > Compare that to the typical iPhone that gets 4148 or more on wifi.

>>
>> That's 3G. *Edge is around 100-150Kbps....
>>
>> If your wifi only goes 4148, it's probably because the buffer
>> overflows a

> nd
>> halts the delivery to give the little phone time to unload it. *
>>
>> http://speedtest.knology.net/
>> How fast does it say it goes from here?

>
> Larry I ran the test on AT&T EDGE and I got 316. I can send you the
> screen shot which proves it. Another nice feaure built into the
> iPhone!
>
>
>
> Speed tests very widely based on the location of the computer you are
> connecting to.Check speedtest.net for a nice global testing system.
>
>
>
>
>


Vic? Hello? Since when does your FruitFone run FLASH speed tests?

Tell us all how to install FLASH so it can run the Knology test!

You wouldn't lie to us, would you?

These sites you quote run Ookla's Flash tester:
http://www.ookla.com/

Now, you tell the class how you run a Flash-based speed test from EITHER
site on a non-Flash-playing Apple FruitFone....We're all ears!


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Old 08-15-2008, 05:35 PM
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Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in
news:g830f3$pns$1@aioe.org:

>> That is not 3g. That is EDGE.

>
>
> No, that's 3G- EDGE tops out at about 200k down, and 40k or so up.
>
>
>> Compare that to the typical iPhone that gets 4148 or more on wifi.

>
>
> I love it when people quote WiFi speed, since "WiFi" doesn't tell us
> what kind of internet connection lies behind the WiFi router. I have
> a 1.5Mbit DSL connection at home. I dare you to get "4148" kbits/sec
> on an internet download with it! ;-)
>
>
>
>


What's even MORE interesting is Vic can run Knology and Speedtest.net's
Ookla speedtest engine which is a FLASH PLAYER APPLICATION!

Not only does he get speeds EDGE isn't capable of running....a miracle in
itself, but reads it off a device THAT HAS NO FLASH PLAYER SUPPORT....a
TRUE MIRACLE!

I believe we may have caused our head fanboi to LIE to us, trashing his
reputation and credibility somethin' awful!

I baited the hook, but I never expected to catch a whole stringer full on
the first cast!


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Old 08-15-2008, 06:32 PM
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"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9AFB825DEC06Bnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:a7275cf4-8087-454b-8085-8d434a627e1a@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
>
>> On Aug 14, 11:04 pm, Larry <no...@home.com> wrote:
>>> 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote in news:31f5db31-44ec-4758-9cc4-
>>> 3f002d799...@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>> > That is not 3g. That is EDGE.
>>> > Compare that to the typical iPhone that gets 4148 or more on wifi.
>>>
>>> That's 3G. Edge is around 100-150Kbps....
>>>
>>> If your wifi only goes 4148, it's probably because the buffer
>>> overflows a

>> nd
>>> halts the delivery to give the little phone time to unload it.
>>>
>>> http://speedtest.knology.net/
>>> How fast does it say it goes from here?

>>
>> Larry I ran the test on AT&T EDGE and I got 316. I can send you the
>> screen shot which proves it. Another nice feaure built into the
>> iPhone!
>>
>>
>>
>> Speed tests very widely based on the location of the computer you are
>> connecting to.Check speedtest.net for a nice global testing system.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

>
> Vic? Hello? Since when does your FruitFone run FLASH speed tests?
>
> Tell us all how to install FLASH so it can run the Knology test!
>
> You wouldn't lie to us, would you?
>
> These sites you quote run Ookla's Flash tester:
> http://www.ookla.com/
>
> Now, you tell the class how you run a Flash-based speed test from EITHER
> site on a non-Flash-playing Apple FruitFone....We're all ears!
>



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Old 08-15-2008, 07:00 PM
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"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9AFB825DEC06Bnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
>>> > That is not 3g. That is EDGE.
>>> http://speedtest.knology.net/
>>> How fast does it say it goes from here?

>>
>> Larry I ran the test on AT&T EDGE and I got 316. I can send you the
>> screen shot which proves it. Another nice feaure built into the
>> iPhone!
>>
>> Speed tests very widely based on the location of the computer you are
>> connecting to.Check speedtest.net for a nice global testing system.

>
> Vic? Hello? Since when does your FruitFone run FLASH speed tests?
>
> Tell us all how to install FLASH so it can run the Knology test!
>
> You wouldn't lie to us, would you?


They ran on my WinMo phone, (which, with an old download from the Macromedia
days, handles Flash up to ver. 7) at least the download portions of the
tests- I got some kind of Javascript error on Knology after awhile while it
"prepared" the upload test. Speednet.net ran slower than than a
quadriplegic sloth, and also hung before starting the upload test.

I suspect we mobile users should stick to the mobile speed test at
http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed !

> These sites you quote run Ookla's Flash tester:
> http://www.ookla.com/
>
> Now, you tell the class how you run a Flash-based speed test from EITHER
> site on a non-Flash-playing Apple FruitFone....We're all ears!


As am I. Is there a non-flash version I can bookmark?





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Old 08-16-2008, 01:19 AM
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"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in news:g84g95$n9r$1
@aioe.org:

> As am I. Is there a non-flash version I can bookmark?
>
>
>


Not on Knology. Put speedtest into Google and get thousands of sites.
On both the home PC and N800 on my home wifi, I get around 6-7Kbps down,
but the cap is only 384Kbps up. The low upload cap makes my rdesktop do
full-screen graphics quite slow and I've been unable to get Knology to
bring it up to above that level. It's fine, just inconvenient. Their
cable internet is so reliable and Usenetserver.com is the newsgroup
provider. I'm very satisfied with the little company, here. I'm 8ms
from Usenetserver's massive farm in downtown Atlanta. Knology has a
direct fiber link that's very lightly loaded:
The Usenet path looks like:
1 ge2-1.core2.usenetserver.com (208.49.83.45) 0.281 ms 0.257 ms
0.229 ms
2 10ge5-1.core1.usenetserver.com (208.49.83.237) 0.452 ms 0.329 ms
0.333 ms
3 knology-uns (208.49.83.226) 0.224 ms 0.329 ms 0.215 ms
4 so.0-0-0.cr-Char.SC.US.knology.net (24.214.0.34) 37.640 ms 8.388
ms 8.403 ms
5 gi.12-2.ar-Char.SC.knology.net (24.96.110.58) 8.301 ms 8.281 ms
8.203 ms
6 char-he-down1.knology.net (24.214.0.177) 8.902 ms 8.545 ms 8.659
ms
Who could complain....(c; Noone pitches a fit that I download 24/7,
either.

On Alltel over Bluetooth DUN, the EVDO shows up as a ppp connection on
the tablet at around 1Mbps after hours and about 700Kbps during the
business day. At $25/mo for unlimited service, it's a helluva great
ride.

That ride, of course, will end when the bastards at Verizon suck up
Alltel. My enquiries at FCC over Verizon claiming they are NOT foreign
owned over 25%, a blatant lie with Vodaphone owning 45% of the company,
and the SC market 800 Mhz will be all Verizon with no competition here
if FCC allows it. Three FCC employees have called to investigate my
allegations, so far, which I find simply amazing.





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Old 08-16-2008, 05:18 AM
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On Aug 15, 12:35*pm, Larry <no...@home.com> wrote:
> Todd Allcock <eleccon...@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote innews:g830f3$pns$1@aioe.org:
>
>
>
> >> That is not 3g. That is EDGE.

>
> > No, that's 3G- EDGE tops out at about 200k down, and 40k or so up.

>
> >> Compare that to the typical iPhone that gets 4148 or more on wifi.

>
> > I love it when people quote WiFi speed, since "WiFi" doesn't tell us
> > what kind of internet connection lies behind the WiFi router. *I have
> > a 1.5Mbit DSL connection at home. *I dare you to get "4148" kbits/sec
> > on an internet download with it! *;-)

>
> What's even MORE interesting is Vic can run Knology and Speedtest.net's
> Ookla speedtest engine which is a FLASH PLAYER APPLICATION!
>
> Not only does he get speeds EDGE isn't capable of running....a miracle in
> itself, but reads it off a device THAT HAS NO FLASH PLAYER SUPPORT....a
> TRUE MIRACLE!
>
> I believe we may have caused our head fanboi to LIE to us, trashing his
> reputation and credibility somethin' awful!
>
> I baited the hook, but I never expected to catch a whole stringer full on
> the first cast!


I ran speedtest.net on my PC Larry. The test I spoke of was the other
one on my cell phone. You didn't get catch crap but your imagination.
Open a window for Larry. He just made anotehr stinker.

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Old 08-17-2008, 03:01 AM
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On 2008-08-16, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> That ride, of course, will end when the bastards at Verizon suck up
> Alltel. My enquiries at FCC over Verizon claiming they are NOT foreign
> owned over 25%, a blatant lie with Vodaphone owning 45% of the company,
> and the SC market 800 Mhz will be all Verizon with no competition here
> if FCC allows it. Three FCC employees have called to investigate my
> allegations, so far, which I find simply amazing.


Good luck with the foreign ownership thing, I'm pretty sure a WTO
agreement (I think in 1997) superceded many of the ownership
restrictions for the telecommunications market, and that includes
the radio licenses. Note that T-Mobile USA is 100% foreign owned; if
you want to find out how they are doing you have to read Deutsche
Telecom's financial reports. I think Telefonica, of Spain, owns
100% of a wireless carrier in Puerto Rico as well.

As for 800 MHz, my utter guess is that Verizon will sell off one
of the allocations voluntarily in any case. Since the purchase of
Alltel is a cash deal (Vodafone wants to remain a 45% owner) at
a time when it sucks to be borrowing money I suspect Verizon will
attempt to minimize the debt by unloading themselves of all the
redundant assets they possibly can. Unfortunately the most likely
buyer of 800 MHz spectrum is AT&T, and I'll bet you won't like them
any better than Verizon.

Dennis Ferguson

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Old 08-17-2008, 03:24 AM
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At 17 Aug 2008 02:01:10 +0000 Dennis Ferguson wrote:

> As for 800 MHz, my utter guess is that Verizon will sell off one
> of the allocations voluntarily in any case. Since the purchase of
> Alltel is a cash deal (Vodafone wants to remain a 45% owner) at
> a time when it sucks to be borrowing money I suspect Verizon will
> attempt to minimize the debt by unloading themselves of all the
> redundant assets they possibly can. Unfortunately the most likely
> buyer of 800 MHz spectrum is AT&T, and I'll bet you won't like them
> any better than Verizon.



I doubt Verizon will unload the redundant spectrum- playing "keep away"
with it is probably worth more than what they can sell it for, unless they
could arrange a spectrum swap with AT&T for areas where AT&T holds both 800
licenses like Florida.




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Old 08-18-2008, 08:17 PM
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On 2008-08-17, Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
> At 17 Aug 2008 02:01:10 +0000 Dennis Ferguson wrote:
>
>> As for 800 MHz, my utter guess is that Verizon will sell off one
>> of the allocations voluntarily in any case. Since the purchase of
>> Alltel is a cash deal (Vodafone wants to remain a 45% owner) at
>> a time when it sucks to be borrowing money I suspect Verizon will
>> attempt to minimize the debt by unloading themselves of all the
>> redundant assets they possibly can. Unfortunately the most likely
>> buyer of 800 MHz spectrum is AT&T, and I'll bet you won't like them
>> any better than Verizon.

>
> I doubt Verizon will unload the redundant spectrum- playing "keep away"
> with it is probably worth more than what they can sell it for, unless they
> could arrange a spectrum swap with AT&T for areas where AT&T holds both 800
> licenses like Florida.


I think I'd take that bet since they've already volunteered to sell off
overlapping assets in parts of 17 states, including South Carolina.
See, e.g.

http://www.rcrnews.com/article/20080723/FREE/110152015

It isn't exactly clear just what it is they're offering to sell
(and I notice the offer doesn't include the parts of Florida where
Alltel's cellular network overlaps with Verizon's PCS network), but
I think an all-cash deal tends to make them focus on what is really
worth paying for in a way that a stock deal (a la Cingular-AT&T)
does not.

Dennis Ferguson

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Old 08-18-2008, 08:21 PM
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"Dennis Ferguson" <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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>> I doubt Verizon will unload the redundant spectrum- playing "keep away"
>> with it is probably worth more than what they can sell it for, unless
>> they
>> could arrange a spectrum swap with AT&T for areas where AT&T holds both
>> 800
>> licenses like Florida.

>
> I think I'd take that bet since they've already volunteered to sell off
> overlapping assets in parts of 17 states, including South Carolina.
> See, e.g.
>
> http://www.rcrnews.com/article/20080723/FREE/110152015
>
> It isn't exactly clear just what it is they're offering to sell
> (and I notice the offer doesn't include the parts of Florida where
> Alltel's cellular network overlaps with Verizon's PCS network), but
> I think an all-cash deal tends to make them focus on what is really
> worth paying for in a way that a stock deal (a la Cingular-AT&T)
> does not.


I'd never bet against you, Dennis. That's an "all cash" deal that would
involve me giving "all" my "cash" to you! ;-)




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