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Unlimited voice AND data for only $99 come to a GSM network starting2/21/08
T-Mobile Offers Unlimited Plan, Too
Phone Scoop posted Today, 4:35 PM by Eric M. Zeman
Today T-Mobile also announced that it will offer subscribers an
unlimited plan for $99 per month. T-Mobile's offering is the only plan
announced today that includes both voice and messaging services at the
$99 price point. The new plan will be available beginning February
21.
Re: Unlimited voice AND data for only $99 come to a GSM network starting 2/21/08
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:33:55 -0800, Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote
in <0b4nr3pdai3d5s2fvunf20l9uhmb1taaid@4ax.com>:
>On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:37:38 -0800 (PST), 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>The GSM deal is better than Verizon's.
>
>But T-Mobile's service sucks big time!
Depends on where you are. There are many places where T-Mobile service
is good.
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"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive,
difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind
boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." --Gene Spafford
Re: Unlimited voice AND data for only $99 come to a GSM network starting 2/21/08
Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote in
news:0b4nr3pdai3d5s2fvunf20l9uhmb1taaid@4ax.com:
> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:37:38 -0800 (PST), 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>The GSM deal is better than Verizon's.
>
> But T-Mobile's service sucks big time!
On Verizon, you have to look carefully at the offer.......
It would be fun to test "unlimited data" on Verizon, again, though in
conjuction with the NY State Attorney General's office, just to see their
faces. We'll use AG Cuomo's Aircard....(c;
Re: Unlimited voice AND data for only $99 come to a GSM network starting 2/21/08
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:30:18 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote in
<Xns9A49E5D8F3B94noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>:
>Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote in
>news:0b4nr3pdai3d5s2fvunf20l9uhmb1taaid@4ax.com :
>
>> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:37:38 -0800 (PST), 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>The GSM deal is better than Verizon's.
>>
>> But T-Mobile's service sucks big time!
>
>On Verizon, you have to look carefully at the offer.......
>
>Unlimited voice....................................and data.
>
>It doesn't say unlimited DATA....See?
Actually it does -- what the Verizon website says for Nationwide
Premium:
UNLIMITED MESSAGING, VZ NAVIGATOR, MOBILE EMAIL, AND V CAST VPAK PLUS
UNLIMITED MEGABYTES FOR MOBILE WEB 2.0 AND GET IT NOW! ON SELECT
VERIZON WIRELESS PHONES.
>It would be fun to test "unlimited data" on Verizon, again, though in
>conjuction with the NY State Attorney General's office, just to see their
>faces. We'll use AG Cuomo's Aircard....(c;
--
Best regards,
John Navas <http:/navasgroup.com>
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive,
difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind
boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." --Gene Spafford
Re: Unlimited voice AND data for only $99 come to a GSM networkstarting 2/21/08
On Feb 19, 11:02*pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:30:18 +0000, Larry <no...@home.com> wrote in
> <Xns9A49E5D8F3B94noonehome...@208.49.80.253>:
>
> >Pegleg <Peg...@usnavyret.mil> wrote in
> >news:0b4nr3pdai3d5s2fvunf20l9uhmb1taaid@4ax.com :
>
> >> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:37:38 -0800 (PST), 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>>The GSM deal is better than Verizon's.
>
> >> But T-Mobile's service sucks big time!
>
> >On Verizon, you have to look carefully at the offer.......
>
> >Unlimited voice....................................and data.
>
> >It doesn't say unlimited DATA....See?
>
> Actually it does -- what the Verizon website says for Nationwide
> Premium:
>
> * *UNLIMITED MESSAGING, VZ NAVIGATOR, MOBILE EMAIL, AND V CAST VPAK PLUS
> * *UNLIMITED MEGABYTES FOR MOBILE WEB 2.0 AND GET IT NOW! ON SELECT
> * *VERIZON WIRELESS PHONES.
>
> >It would be fun to test "unlimited data" on Verizon, again, though in
> >conjuction with the NY State Attorney General's office, just to see their
> >faces. *We'll use AG Cuomo's Aircard....(c;
>
> --
> Best regards,
> John Navas * * <http:/navasgroup.com>
>
> "Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive,
> difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind
> boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." --Gene Spafford
Wrong John, a discussion by analysists of yesterday's news mentioned
that Verizon's data is now tightly capped at one fo two levels. 50MB
or 5GB at two different price points. You do not get the 5GB at the
$99 price level!
T-Mo is a much bigger bang for the dollar than Verizon at $99!
Re: Unlimited voice AND data for only $99 come to a GSM network starting 2/21/08
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:58:43 -0800 (PST), 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com>
wrote in
<71b1cb15-643f-4314-b08a-a64c395d580c@b29g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>:
>On Feb 19, 11:02*pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>> Actually it does -- what the Verizon website says for
>> Nationwide Premium:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> * *UNLIMITED MESSAGING, VZ NAVIGATOR, MOBILE EMAIL, AND V CAST VPAK PLUS
>> * *UNLIMITED MEGABYTES FOR MOBILE WEB 2.0 AND GET IT NOW! ON SELECT
>> * *VERIZON WIRELESS PHONES.
>Wrong John, a discussion by analysists of yesterday's news mentioned
>that Verizon's data is now tightly capped at one fo two levels. 50MB
>or 5GB at two different price points.
That's Broadband Connect, not Nationwide Premium.
>ou do not get the 5GB at the
>$99 price level!
I never said you did -- Nationwide Connect is $140.
>T-Mo is a much bigger bang for the dollar than Verizon at $99!
Depends on what you want/need both in terms of service and in terms of
coverage.
--
Best regards,
John Navas <http:/navasgroup.com>
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive,
difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind
boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." --Gene Spafford
Re: Unlimited voice AND data for only $99 come to a GSM network starting2/21/08
4phun wrote:
> T-Mobile Offers Unlimited Plan, Too
> Phone Scoop posted Today, 4:35 PM by Eric M. Zeman
>
> Today T-Mobile also announced that it will offer subscribers an
> unlimited plan for $99 per month. T-Mobile's offering is the only plan
> announced today that includes both voice and messaging services at the
> $99 price point. The new plan will be available beginning February
> 21.
>
> from T-Mobile
>
> The GSM deal is better than Verizon's.
It's unlimited voice and messaging, not voice and data. You need to
understand the difference.
T-Mobile offers unlimited "voice and messaging" not data. Since they
don't have a data network in the U.S., they don't have to worry about
their network being overwhelmed.
Sprint is now the only carrier without an unlimited plan. If they really
want to trump the competition then they could offer a true unlimited
voice _and_ data plan. Unlikely since the reason AT&T and Verizon have
capped their data plans is because the 3G networks don't have sufficient
capacity for such plans. At $60/month for true unlimited data, a lot of
DSL users might be tempted to use 3G as their primary Internet connection.
Re: Unlimited voice AND data for only $99 come to a GSM network starting 2/21/08
In alt.cellular.attws SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
> At $60/month for true unlimited data, a lot of
> DSL users might be tempted to use 3G as their primary Internet connection.
Nah ... latency is too poor for many applications. The pipe is quite
asymetric as well.
--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
In the land of the dark the Ship of the Sun is driven by the Grateful Dead.
-- Egyptian Book of the Dead
Re: Unlimited voice AND data for only $99 come to a GSM network starting 2/21/08
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 06:56:03 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in <47bc3ed0$0$36411$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:
>4phun wrote:
>> T-Mobile Offers Unlimited Plan, Too
>> Phone Scoop posted Today, 4:35 PM by Eric M. Zeman
>>
>> Today T-Mobile also announced that it will offer subscribers an
>> unlimited plan for $99 per month. T-Mobile's offering is the only plan
>> announced today that includes both voice and messaging services at the
>> $99 price point. The new plan will be available beginning February
>> 21.
>>
>> from T-Mobile
>>
>> The GSM deal is better than Verizon's.
>
>It's unlimited voice and messaging, not voice and data. You need to
>understand the difference.
>
>T-Mobile offers unlimited "voice and messaging" not data. Since they
>don't have a data network in the U.S., they don't have to worry about
>their network being overwhelmed.
T-Mobile most certainly does have a data network in the USA.
>Sprint is now the only carrier without an unlimited plan.
Sprint actually has an unlimited plan in trial.
>If they really
>want to trump the competition then they could offer a true unlimited
>voice _and_ data plan. Unlikely since the reason AT&T and Verizon have
>capped their data plans is because the 3G networks don't have sufficient
>capacity for such plans.
Total nonsense.
>At $60/month for true unlimited data, a lot of
>DSL users might be tempted to use 3G as their primary Internet connection.
Such abuse is the reason for capping.
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difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind
boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." --Gene Spafford
Re: Unlimited voice AND data for only $99 come to a GSM network starting2/21/08
4phun wrote:
> T-Mobile Offers Unlimited Plan, Too
> Phone Scoop posted Today, 4:35 PM by Eric M. Zeman
>
> Today T-Mobile also announced that it will offer subscribers an
> unlimited plan for $99 per month. T-Mobile's offering is the only plan
> announced today that includes both voice and messaging services at the
> $99 price point. The new plan will be available beginning February
> 21.
>
> from T-Mobile
>
> The GSM deal is better than Verizon's.
Analysts say Sprint will offer unlimited voice and messaging for between
$60 and $80 in the next few weeks. If Sprint went one further, and
offered unlimited voice and (relatively) unlimited 3G data for $100,
that would really shake things up. What does Sprint have to lose at this
point?
Re: Unlimited voice AND data for only $99 come to a GSM network starting 2/21/08
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:46:50 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in <47bc58c6$0$36374$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:
>4phun wrote:
>> T-Mobile Offers Unlimited Plan, Too
>> Phone Scoop posted Today, 4:35 PM by Eric M. Zeman
>>
>> Today T-Mobile also announced that it will offer subscribers an
>> unlimited plan for $99 per month. T-Mobile's offering is the only plan
>> announced today that includes both voice and messaging services at the
>> $99 price point. The new plan will be available beginning February
>> 21.
>>
>> from T-Mobile
>>
>> The GSM deal is better than Verizon's.
>
>Analysts say Sprint will offer unlimited voice and messaging for between
>$60 and $80 in the next few weeks.
Citation? Oh wait ... you almost never have any ... you mostly just
make stuff up.
>If Sprint went one further, and
>offered unlimited voice and (relatively) unlimited 3G data for $100,
>that would really shake things up. What does Sprint have to lose at this
>point?
It's ass. That would make no sense at all.
--
Best regards,
John Navas <http:/navasgroup.com>
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive,
difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind
boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." --Gene Spafford
Re: Unlimited voice AND data for only $99 come to a GSM network starting 2/21/08
John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> writes:
> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:46:50 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
> wrote in <47bc58c6$0$36374$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:
>
>>4phun wrote:
>>> T-Mobile Offers Unlimited Plan, Too
>>> Phone Scoop posted Today, 4:35 PM by Eric M. Zeman
>>>
>>> Today T-Mobile also announced that it will offer subscribers an
>>> unlimited plan for $99 per month. T-Mobile's offering is the only plan
>>> announced today that includes both voice and messaging services at the
>>> $99 price point. The new plan will be available beginning February
>>> 21.
>>>
>>> from T-Mobile
>>>
>>> The GSM deal is better than Verizon's.
>>
>>Analysts say Sprint will offer unlimited voice and messaging for between
>>$60 and $80 in the next few weeks.
>
> Citation? Oh wait ... you almost never have any ... you mostly just
> make stuff up.
John, only you would set a followup to alt.cellular.cingular on a post
that has to do with multiple carriers pricing. :-)
As for a cite, anyone who visited news.cnet.com today would've tripped
over the headline:
Actually I saw the "$60-80" from
"http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2008/02/20/ap4676170.html"
It's always amusing to see "he who must not be named" demanding
citations for widely disseminated news stories, while at the same time
never providing citations for any of the claims he makes up, and never
providing any factual basis for disputing any of the citations that
others make.
He's never provided a citation for extended GSM, despite repeated requests.
He's never provided a citation disputing the accuracy of the network
quality surveys, despite repeated requests.
He's never provided a citation disputing the USA Today story that Apple
approached Verizon with the iPhone prior to going to Cingular/AT&T,
despite repeated requests.
He complains that people treat him badly, but if he would change his
behavior he would be forgiven and perhaps he could make some useful
contributions.
> T-Mo is a much bigger bang for the dollar than Verizon at $99!
>
>
Alltel's better than both of them.
700 mins, Unlimited M2M/N-W with the toys $40
UNLIMITED smartphone data $10
Total w/o taxes $50
700 min regional phone plan above $40
UNLIMITED Tethered to computer via
Bluetooth or USB $25
Total to your computer w/o VZW BS $65/mo
Streaming and gaming to the N800 Linux tablet ad nauseum doesn't seem to
bother them at all.... Their Megabyte counter on my bill maxes out at
99,999 Megabytes every month and noone complains....(c;
Alltel's footprint is huge in comparison.
If you get lots of mins on a regional phone plan, you can ADD nationwide
minutes for travel on vacation outside your area. $10 buys 100 minutes
with a 611 call before you leave or anytime during your vacation. You
don't have to pay roaming charges outside your area, and you don't have to
pay for nationwide coverage you rarely use at double the price the other
carriers charge.
My total bill with all the tax loads and charges is about $74/mo for great
phone coverage from MD to FL along the coast, NC/SC complete and into the
surrounding states of GA/TN/VA before I need national
coverage.....including really unlimited internet to my Linux tablet.
Re: Unlimited voice AND data for only $99 come to a GSM network starting 2/21/08
Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote in
newsh9or3padu6evofoc07uviujc3i5setfgn@4ax.com:
> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:58:43 -0800 (PST), 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Wrong John, a discussion by analysists of yesterday's news mentioned
>>that Verizon's data is now tightly capped at one fo two levels. 50MB
>>or 5GB at two different price points. You do not get the 5GB at the
>>$99 price level!
>>
>>T-Mo is a much bigger bang for the dollar than Verizon at $99!
>
> Verizon's Data service continues to be WAY OVERPRICED! 50MB for
> $39.99...you have to be kidding!
>
Alltel - 1X to smartphones $10/mo extra
EVDO to tethered computers $25/mo extra
The bills all say MEGABYTES 99,999 when they come...too funny.
If you buy 1X for your smartphone, it still tethers over BT or USB to your
computer, but you only get 1X speed for $10 if you're cheap...(c; Still no
MB limits...just less MBs/day...
--
Best regards,
John Navas <http:/navasgroup.com>
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive,
difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind
boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." --Gene Spafford
Re: Unlimited voice AND data for only $99 come to a GSM network starting 2/21/08
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:33:13 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in <47bc71b5$0$36410$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:
>Todd H. wrote:
>
>> As for a cite, anyone who visited news.cnet.com today would've tripped
>> over the headline:
>>
>> http://www.news.com/Sprint-expected-...l?tag=nefd.top
>
>Actually I saw the "$60-80" from
>"http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2008/02/20/ap4676170.html"
>
>It's always amusing to see "he who must not be named" demanding
>citations for widely disseminated news stories, while at the same time
>never providing citations for any of the claims he makes up, and never
>providing any factual basis for disputing any of the citations that
>others make.
Total nonsense.
>He's never provided a citation for extended GSM, despite repeated requests.
Actually several of them.
>He's never provided a citation disputing the accuracy of the network
>quality surveys, despite repeated requests.
Actually several of them.
>He's never provided a citation disputing the USA Today story that Apple
>approached Verizon with the iPhone prior to going to Cingular/AT&T,
>despite repeated requests.
There's no need to refute spin solely from Verizon.
The other companies don't comment.
>He complains that people treat him badly, but if he would change his
>behavior he would be forgiven and perhaps he could make some useful
>contributions.
Total nonsense.
--
Best regards,
John Navas <http:/navasgroup.com>
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive,
difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind
boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." --Gene Spafford
Re: Unlimited voice AND data for only $99 come to a GSM network starting 2/21/08
John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> writes:
> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:19:47 -0600, t@toddh.net (Todd H.) wrote in
> <84d4qrfq2k@news.giganews.com>:
>
>>As for a cite, anyone who visited news.cnet.com today would've tripped
>>over the headline:
>
> Thanks for the insult.
It wasn't meant as an insult, but rather criticism of criticism.
Why be a pain in the ass over a cite when a) you rarely give them
yourself, and b) one for this was exceedingly easy to find?"
Re: Unlimited voice AND data for only $99 come to a GSM network starting 2/21/08
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:01:34 -0600, t@toddh.net (Todd H.) wrote in
<84skznv1lt@news.giganews.com>:
>John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> writes:
>
>> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:19:47 -0600, t@toddh.net (Todd H.) wrote in
>> <84d4qrfq2k@news.giganews.com>:
>>
>>>As for a cite, anyone who visited news.cnet.com today would've tripped
>>>over the headline:
>>
>> Thanks for the insult.
>
>It wasn't meant as an insult, but rather criticism of criticism.
It looked like an insult to me, and still does. I've been to several
news sites today, and didn't see anything on this until now. If I had,
then I would not have asked.
>Why be a pain in the ass over a cite when a) you rarely give them
>yourself,
In fact I probably post more links than anyone else here. I just don't
post them over and over.
and b) one for this was exceedingly easy to find?"
I'm not interested in a potential wild goose chase, having been sent on
too many of those already.
--
Best regards,
John Navas <http:/navasgroup.com>
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive,
difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind
boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." --Gene Spafford
Re: Unlimited voice AND data for only $99 come to a GSM network starting2/21/08
Todd H. wrote:
> John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> writes:
>
>> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:19:47 -0600, t@toddh.net (Todd H.) wrote in
>> <84d4qrfq2k@news.giganews.com>:
>>
>>> As for a cite, anyone who visited news.cnet.com today would've tripped
>>> over the headline:
>> Thanks for the insult.
>
> It wasn't meant as an insult, but rather criticism of criticism.
>
> Why be a pain in the ass over a cite when a) you rarely give them
> yourself, and b) one for this was exceedingly easy to find?"
For such a widely publicized and current news item I didn't see the need
to include a link, but "he who must not be named" isn't happy unless he
has something to complain about. Yet he rarely includes any citations on
anything he posts because when you make up stuff out of thin air it's
tough to find any citations to back you up.
Re: Unlimited voice AND data for only $99 come to a GSM network starting2/21/08
Todd H. wrote:
> John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> writes:
>
>> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:19:47 -0600, t@toddh.net (Todd H.) wrote in
>> <84d4qrfq2k@news.giganews.com>:
>>
>>> As for a cite, anyone who visited news.cnet.com today would've tripped
>>> over the headline:
>> Thanks for the insult.
>
> It wasn't meant as an insult, but rather criticism of criticism.
> Why be a pain in the ass over a cite when a) you rarely give them
> yourself, and b) one for this was exceedingly easy to find?"
For such a widely publicized and current news item I didn't see the need
to include a link, but "he who must not be named" isn't happy unless he
has something to complain about. Yet he rarely includes any citations on
anything he posts because when you make up stuff out of thin air it's
tough to find any citations to back you up.
BTW, watch out for the latest crap from "he who must not be named,"
which is changing the newsgroups to where follow-up posts are directed
to include alt.cellular.cingular, a newsgroup for which there is no
corresponding carrier, while removing newsgroups that are actually
relevant. Pathetic and sad.
Re: Unlimited voice AND data for only $99 come to a GSM network starting 2/21/08
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:33:13 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in <47bc71b5$0$36410$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:
>Todd H. wrote:
>
>> As for a cite, anyone who visited news.cnet.com today would've tripped
>> over the headline:
>>
>> http://www.news.com/Sprint-expected-...l?tag=nefd.top
>
>Actually I saw the "$60-80" from
>"http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2008/02/20/ap4676170.html"
These stories are nothing more than analyst *speculation* -- nobody
knows what Sprint will do, maybe not yet even Sprint -- only time will
tell.
--
Best regards,
John Navas <http:/navasgroup.com>
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive,
difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind
boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." --Gene Spafford
Re: Unlimited voice AND data for only $99 come to a GSM network starting 2/21/08
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:56:44 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in <47bc935a$0$36379$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:
>Todd H. wrote:
>> John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> writes:
>>
>>> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:19:47 -0600, t@toddh.net (Todd H.) wrote in
>>> <84d4qrfq2k@news.giganews.com>:
>>>
>>>> As for a cite, anyone who visited news.cnet.com today would've tripped
>>>> over the headline:
>>> Thanks for the insult.
>>
>> It wasn't meant as an insult, but rather criticism of criticism.
>>
>> Why be a pain in the ass over a cite when a) you rarely give them
>> yourself, and b) one for this was exceedingly easy to find?"
>
>For such a widely publicized and current news item I didn't see the need
>to include a link, but "he who must not be named" isn't happy unless he
>has something to complain about. Yet he rarely includes any citations on
>anything he posts because when you make up stuff out of thin air it's
>tough to find any citations to back you up.
That would be you, Steven, as your own admission (lame excuse) makes
clear.
--
Best regards,
John Navas <http:/navasgroup.com>
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive,
difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind
boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." --Gene Spafford
Re: Unlimited voice AND data for only $99 come to a GSM network starting 2/21/08
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:25:50 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in <47bc9a2b$0$36401$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:
>BTW, watch out for the latest crap from "he who must not be named,"
>which is changing the newsgroups to where follow-up posts are directed
>to include alt.cellular.cingular, a newsgroup for which there is no
>corresponding carrier, while removing newsgroups that are actually
>relevant. Pathetic and sad.
Just taking a page out of your book, Steven.
You can dish it out, but you can't take it.
--
Best regards,
John Navas <http:/navasgroup.com>
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive,
difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind
boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." --Gene Spafford
Re: Unlimited voice AND data for only $99 come to a GSM network starting 2/21/08
I left Verizon three years ago for T-Mobile & I've saved hundreds. T-Mobile
gives me great service. More bang for the buck.
"Pegleg" <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:37:38 -0800 (PST), 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>The GSM deal is better than Verizon's.
>
> But T-Mobile's service sucks big time!
Re: Unlimited voice AND data for only $99 come to a GSM network starting 2/21/08
At 20 Feb 2008 06:56:03 -0800 SMS wrote:
> T-Mobile offers unlimited "voice and messaging" not data. Since they
> don't have a data network in the U.S., they don't have to worry about
> their network being overwhelmed.
They have a 2G data network.
> Sprint is now the only carrier without an unlimited plan. If they reall
>y want to trump the competition then they could offer a true unlimited
> voice _and_ data plan. Unlikely since the reason AT&T and Verizon
> have capped their data plans is because the 3G networks don't have
> sufficient capacity for such plans. At $60/month for true unlimited data,
> a lot of DSL users might be tempted to use 3G as their primary Internet
connection.
Sprint beat everyone to it. They offered unlimited voice and data in a few
"beta" markets late last year for $99, IIRC. It included "Power Vision"
data only (on-phone data- no tethering.) I suspect they'll just expand
that plan everywhere to compete.
Re: Unlimited voice AND data for only $99 come to a GSM network starting 2/21/08
At 19 Feb 2008 18:33:55 -0800 Pegleg wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:37:38 -0800 (PST), 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >The GSM deal is better than Verizon's.
>
> But T-Mobile's service sucks big time!
The 26 million of us using it (at about 60% of Verizon's pricing!) seem
satisfied! ;-)
Re: Unlimited voice AND data for only $99 come to a GSM network starting 2/21/08
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On 2008-02-21, Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
>> T-Mobile offers unlimited "voice and messaging" not data. Since they
>> don't have a data network in the U.S., they don't have to worry about
>> their network being overwhelmed.
>
>
> They have a 2G data network.
Exactly. In other words, they don't have a data network.
(I don't consider GPRS to be up to par when ATTWS is already EDGE-ified
over most of its network and is moving to HDSPA, and when Verizon and
Sprint offer DSL speeds.)
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