Current Balance
$88.27
This balance expires on October 9, 2010
Plan Balance Details
Replenishment History
Balance Replenish Date
$10.00 6/11/2010
Last sellphone bill 6/11/2010 for $10. Plenty of balance left and
brought forward.
Next sellphone payment due on 10/09/10 at least $10, again, as there's
STILL plenty of balance on my Pageplus account....(c;] The balance
carries forward if I buy $10 more....
Is any smartphone toy with the little tiny browser worth THAT much more
than my sellphone costs? I think NOT!
tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> wrote in
newsp.vj6uuur0itl47o@acer250.gateway.2wire.net:
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 22:54:21 -0400, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>> ... Next sellphone payment due on 10/09/10 at least $10, again, ...
>
> Just your friendly reminder post :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp
tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> wrote in
newsp.vj6uuur0itl47o@acer250.gateway.2wire.net:
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 22:54:21 -0400, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>> ... Next sellphone payment due on 10/09/10 at least $10, again, ...
>
> Just your friendly reminder post :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp
Done!
$89.65
This balance expires on February 4, 2011
It's so easy to forget....(c;]
Balance brought forward....no funny business....
Some poor ******* is staring at his VZW bill trying to figure out where
he's gonna get $104.29 by Monday or they'll cut him off, again, this month.
Thanks for reminding me.....See you in February of next year!
On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 01:21:49 -0400, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> wrote in
> newsp.vj6uuur0itl47o@acer250.gateway.2wire.net:
>
>> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 22:54:21 -0400, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ... Next sellphone payment due on 10/09/10 at least $10, again, ...
>>
>> Just your friendly reminder post :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp
>
> Done!
>
> $89.65
> This balance expires on February 4, 2011
>
> It's so easy to forget....(c;]
So set yourself a tickler for February 1 :-) .
> Balance brought forward....no funny business....
>
> ...
>
> Thanks for reminding me.....See you in February of next year!
You're very welcome -- use it in good health!
> Page Plus....gotta love it!
Question: Old Sprint PCS Touchpoint TP-2200 "dual" handset
(options for analog only, Sprint PCS only, or auto-switch),
not currently in service, but still raising a Sprint signal --
any hope to enlist the services of Page Plus for that handset?
How to find out, for sure, *before* dropping the first Page Plus
service fee payment?
TIA; and cheers, -- tlvp
--
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP
On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 18:46:23 -0400, tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 01:21:49 -0400, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>> tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> newsp.vj6uuur0itl47o@acer250.gateway.2wire.net:
>>
>>> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 22:54:21 -0400, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ... Next sellphone payment due on 10/09/10 at least $10, again, ...
>>>
>>> Just your friendly reminder post :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp
>>
>> Done!
>>
>> $89.65
>> This balance expires on February 4, 2011
>>
>> It's so easy to forget....(c;]
>
> So set yourself a tickler for February 1 :-) .
>
>> Balance brought forward....no funny business....
>>
>> ...
>>
>> Thanks for reminding me.....See you in February of next year!
>
> You're very welcome -- use it in good health!
>
>> Page Plus....gotta love it!
>
> Question: Old Sprint PCS Touchpoint TP-2200 "dual" handset
> (options for analog only, Sprint PCS only, or auto-switch),
> not currently in service, but still raising a Sprint signal --
>
> any hope to enlist the services of Page Plus for that handset?
BTW: the digital Sprint PCS service is 1900 MHz; the analog is 800 MHz.
> How to find out, for sure, *before* dropping the first Page Plus
> service fee payment?
>
> TIA; and cheers, -- tlvp
tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> wrote in
newsp.vj8fs0bbitl47o@acer250.gateway.2wire.net:
> BTW: the digital Sprint PCS service is 1900 MHz; the analog is 800 MHz.
>
I don't think that will work. Most Verizon is on the old 850 Mhz band in
CDMA, no analog left. So, I don't recommend getting any Sprint phones
because lots of them are only the PCS bands that I've seen, to save
sprint money and prevent churning, of course.
Why not drop by a local thrift shop or Goodwill thrift store, etc., and
buy a used Alltel 850/1900 CDMA tri-mode phone for $1 or so with a good
battery. The power supplies are everywhere, usually not with the phones
in a thrift shop as they get lost. I'm using an Alltel/Motorola ROKR Z6m
camera slidephone I brought from my old Alltel days. Alltel phones
aren't hobbled up like Verizon's exact same phones as Alltel never
tampered with the firmware shutting things off. My Z6m will print to any
Bluetooth printer, swap files over Bluetooth with my netbook or Linux
tablets and a lot of other things the Verizon model just won't do. My
standby is an Alltel V60i Motorola flipphone that does have analog on it,
but that won't do me any good in SC as we're all CDMA/EVDO here. I
understand out West where analog is still king in the wide-open-spaces on
small carriers Pageplus seems to have free roaming deals with, an analog
capable phone is a plus.
Look around. Ask around old friends. Lots of them have Verizon and
Alltel phones stuffed in a drawer with good batteries, drop in chargers,
several power supplies and mobile cables.....going to waste as they've
moved on to the smartphones and keeping up with the Joneses. They'll be
glad to get rid of them and they'll connect right up to Pageplus.
Well, I'm good. No sellphone bills until 2011!....hee hee.
On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 22:15:23 -0400, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> wrote in
> newsp.vj8fs0bbitl47o@acer250.gateway.2wire.net:
>
>> BTW: the digital Sprint PCS service is 1900 MHz; the analog is 800 MHz.
>>
>
> I don't think that will work. Most Verizon is on the old 850 Mhz band in
> CDMA, no analog left.
Ah, on 850, not 1900, for CDMA? There goes that thought :-{ .
> ... So, I don't recommend getting any Sprint phones
> because lots of them are only the PCS bands that I've seen, to save
> sprint money and prevent churning, of course.
Wasn't planning on *getting* this phone, I already *have* it,
from a university phone-recycle dumpster near me a year or two ago,
w/ nearly new battery and wallwart charger as well, @ $0.00 .
> Why not drop by a local thrift shop or Goodwill thrift store, etc., and
> buy a used Alltel 850/1900 CDMA tri-mode phone for $1 or so with a good
Alltel in CT may be a stretch ... but I'll see ... Thx 4 the tips.
Anyway, if I do find a likely candidate handset, how to confirm w/
Page Plus that it will work through their plan(s) without first
dropping the $10 for a starter without yet knowing for sure?
Cheers, -- tlvp
--
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP ...
> ... battery. The power supplies are everywhere, usually not with the phones
> in a thrift shop as they get lost. I'm using an Alltel/Motorola ROKR Z6m
> camera slidephone I brought from my old Alltel days. Alltel phones
> aren't hobbled up like Verizon's exact same phones as Alltel never
> tampered with the firmware shutting things off. My Z6m will print to any
> Bluetooth printer, swap files over Bluetooth with my netbook or Linux
> tablets and a lot of other things the Verizon model just won't do. My
> standby is an Alltel V60i Motorola flipphone that does have analog on it,
> but that won't do me any good in SC as we're all CDMA/EVDO here. I
> understand out West where analog is still king in the wide-open-spaces on
> small carriers Pageplus seems to have free roaming deals with, an analog
> capable phone is a plus.
>
> Look around. Ask around old friends. Lots of them have Verizon and
> Alltel phones stuffed in a drawer with good batteries, drop in chargers,
> several power supplies and mobile cables.....going to waste as they've
> moved on to the smartphones and keeping up with the Joneses. They'll be
> glad to get rid of them and they'll connect right up to Pageplus.
>
> Well, I'm good. No sellphone bills until 2011!....hee hee.
At 07 Oct 2010 18:46:23 -0400 tlvp wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 01:21:49 -0400, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
> > tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> wrote in
> > newsp.vj6uuur0itl47o@acer250.gateway.2wire.net:
> >
> >> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 22:54:21 -0400, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> ... Next sellphone payment due on 10/09/10 at least $10, again, ...
> >>
> >> Just your friendly reminder post :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp
> >
> > Done!
> >
> > $89.65
> > This balance expires on February 4, 2011
> >
> > It's so easy to forget....(c;]
>
> So set yourself a tickler for February 1 :-) .
>
> > Balance brought forward....no funny business....
> >
> > ...
> >
> > Thanks for reminding me.....See you in February of next year!
>
> You're very welcome -- use it in good health!
>
> > Page Plus....gotta love it!
>
> Question: Old Sprint PCS Touchpoint TP-2200 "dual" handset
> (options for analog only, Sprint PCS only, or auto-switch),
> not currently in service, but still raising a Sprint signal --
>
> any hope to enlist the services of Page Plus for that handset?
>
> How to find out, for sure, *before* dropping the first Page Plus
> service fee payment?
Page Plus includes a few free minutes with new activations for testing
the service.
Sprint handsets tend to be problematic, however, because they can't be
programmed OTA by Page Plus (Verizon,) not can they download a verizon PRL,
usually, which might force the phone to roam where it shouldn't. Unless
you can program it manually via the keypad, you're probably SOL.
tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> wrote in
newsp.vj8kvxhtitl47o@acer250.gateway.2wire.net:
> Alltel in CT may be a stretch ... but I'll see ... Thx 4 the tips.
> Anyway, if I do find a likely candidate handset, how to confirm w/
> Page Plus that it will work through their plan(s) without first
> dropping the $10 for a starter without yet knowing for sure?
>
>
Pull battery and record mile-long MEID on paper so you can give it to
them.
Turn the phone on and let it log onto its native CDMA carrier, then:
Call (800) 550-2436 from any DIFFERENT phone so it can be programmed over
the air.
Tell the nice lady you have a CDMA phone and want to buy Pageplus service
if the phone works on PP.
She will ask for your ECN (MEID) and you carefully read it to her.
She enters the MEID so the system can find the phone you're NOT using to
call her. The system finds the phone, she presses a few buttons after
you give her all your information to setup a new account and the phone
goes into reload (or she tells you to dial #22890/#22891 on some phones).
The current system loads PP data into the phone without reprogramming the
current firmware and she tells you when it's ready for use....in about 2
minutes, usually.
You call out on your new PP phone to verify it works (just dial PP
support at #737, not 611. If you dial 611, you get Verizon Wireless,
useless.
While you have her online, having verified the phone on its new PP number
works fine, tell her you'd like to port your old number over to that new
phone/account from whatever it's on, now. She ports the number and that
might take some time to grind through the system. You call your old
number to verify when it rings the PP phone a couple hours later......
Your calls go from $70/month to 4c/min with NO FUNNY BUSINESS. Every
month, you notice this charge on your PP online account webpage:
0 0 02:37 AM EST Sep. 25, 2010 82.83 82.33 Audits
(Daily Access Fee, Quick Access)
which I copied right off mine just now.,,,,,, The princely sum of 50
cents deducted from your prepaid balance, which NEVER goes away IF you
simply buy a minimum of $10/100 mins every 4 months, but can just enter a
bigger amount's PIN number from callingmart.com at 7% current discount,
if you like. $80 card for $74.40 = 2000 minutes of service = 3.72c/min
actual cost, but you'll notice all calls are charged at 4c/min ($80 card
rate you only paid $74.40 for from Callingmart.com account.) It takes me
forever to use up $80 on Pageplus....which is wonderful!
If you screw up and don't let the call complete, it shows up like this:
0 08:45 AM EST Sep. 30, 2010 81.41 81.41 Abbreviated
Dialing
(I deleted the number I dialed, of course, which also shows up on the
call log.) Notice I was NOT charged.
A regular call out has the number plus this:
6 12:57 PM EST Sep. 29, 2010 81.65 81.41 Successful
O/G calls
(all on one line)
When someone calls you, you get their caller ID number plus this:
7 04:58 PM EST Sep. 26, 2010 82.29 82.01 Successful
I/C calls
If someone calls you and you do not answer, you get the caller ID plus:
0 01:40 PM EST Sep. 23, 2010 83.75 83.75 Calling
Party Abandon
Again....NO CHARGES, NO FUNNY BUSINESS, no matter how long they let it
ring. I do not have voicemail active, so I don't have to pay to call it
and listen to messages. If they want me, they'll call back soon. I'm
retired!
When you call an 800 number, you see the 800 number plus this:
11 03:48 PM EST Aug. 26, 2010 89.63 89.19 Successful
O/G calls
You are charged for airtime on 800 numbers, same as any other number
except calling PP on #737 to put in a new pin or #CCARE to talk to the
nice ladies in Ohio. Those calls are free, as expected.
Again...NO SURPRISES, NO FUNNY BUSINESS, NO CHARGES NOONE CAN
IDENTIFY.... (c;]
After overcharging up my account because there was a 10% Callingmart
special at Christmas 2009, Here's my total phone replenishment ($20) for
2010. It's almost like stealing service!
With the $70 + $18 monthly "fees and charges" X 12 months = $1056 (for
Verizon with smartphone data) minus ($127.49 - 89.65) = 37.84 from June
to Oct phone service X 3 periods = $113.52/YEAR for PP phone
service....so $1056 - 113.52 = $942.48 SAVED!
That $942 let's me buy a Cricket unlimited AIRCARD for my mobile router
and netbook for 12 x $40 = $480/year. $942-$480 STILL saves me $462/year
with FULL INTERNET SERVICE to whatever I want to plug the Cricket aircard
into....not some stupid hobbled up little smartphone that doesn't play
Livestation TV or any other streaming media I want, when and where I want
it. Cricket aircard has NO additional charges and NO contract nonsense.
The A600 USB aircard was free.
$462 is STILL pretty serious money even AFTER the internet toys have
mobile service all over town....(c;]
In article <Xns9E0AE2C30CEADnoonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, noone@home.com
says...
>
> tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> wrote in
> newsp.vj8fs0bbitl47o@acer250.gateway.2wire.net:
>
> > BTW: the digital Sprint PCS service is 1900 MHz; the analog is 800 MHz.
> >
>
> I don't think that will work. Most Verizon is on the old 850 Mhz band in
> CDMA, no analog left. So, I don't recommend getting any Sprint phones
> because lots of them are only the PCS bands that I've seen, to save
> sprint money and prevent churning, of course.
Larry, as usual, every time you open your mouth about Sprint, you expose
your ignorance.
Sprint has never has anything besides 1900 MHz digital coverage on their
network. By the time they got into the game, most if not all of the
800/850 MHz spectrum was licensed by other carriers.
I don't even think the old (and tiny) Sprint Spectrum GSM network had
analog coverage or 850 MHz coverage.
Well, I'm good. No sellphone bills until 2011!....hee hee.
At 07 Oct 2010 23:50:15 -0700 Steve Sobol wrote:
> In article <op.vj8fs0bbitl47o@acer250.gateway.2wire.net>,
> tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com says...
>
>
> >
> > BTW: the digital Sprint PCS service is 1900 MHz; the analog is 800 MHz.
>
>
> Even if Sprint HAD native analog service, it probably wouldn't be 800
> MHz because they came to the game too late to snatch up the 800 MHz
> spectrum.
>
> But Sprint PCS has never had analog. Analog roaming at one time, yes.
> But not native analog.
>
> Also, the PCS kinda implies 1900 MHz.
Keep in mind when Sprint first launched, the 800MHz carriers were still
analog-only, so the earliest Sprint phones with any roaming capability
would be analog-only on 800MHz, and digital on 1900. The "tri-mode" 800
analog/800 digital/1900 digital phones came later, after the 800MHz
carriers began converting to digital.
I recently found (and subsequently tossed) the analog adapter module for
my ancient Voicestream (now T-Mobile) Nokia 5190. It snapped on in-
between the phone and battery and allowed the 1900 GSM-only phone to roam
on 800 analog.
> Keep in mind when Sprint first launched, the 800MHz carriers were still
> analog-only, so the earliest Sprint phones with any roaming capability
> would be analog-only on 800MHz, and digital on 1900. The "tri-mode" 800
> analog/800 digital/1900 digital phones came later, after the 800MHz
> carriers began converting to digital.
Remember Sprint's advertisements, "The Largest All-Digital Network." And
it was true. The fact that AT&T Wireless's, Cingular's, and Verizon's
digital networks were much larger than Sprint's didn't matter because
each of them also still had analog and hence were not "All-Digital."
> I recently found (and subsequently tossed) the analog adapter module for
> my ancient Voicestream (now T-Mobile) Nokia 5190. It snapped on in-
> between the phone and battery and allowed the 1900 GSM-only phone to roam
> on 800 analog.
I remember seeing those, but you're the first person I ever knew to have
one!
Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in news:MPG.27185f743fda34e3989a57
@news.justthe.net:
> Larry, as usual, every time you open your mouth about Sprint, you expose
> your ignorance.
>
But, unlike you, I took the time to explain, in detail, how this person
could get hooked to PP, telling them not to try a Sprint phone, and, in
detail, what to expect as a PP customer.....unlike your usual terse, and
sometimes quite acid, little 10 liners.
Notice all the other posters who went to great detail about THEIR pageplus
service.....(crickets chirping)....
At 08 Oct 2010 07:02:08 -0700 SMS wrote:
> On 10/8/2010 5:06 AM, Todd Allcock wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > Keep in mind when Sprint first launched, the 800MHz carriers were
still
> > analog-only, so the earliest Sprint phones with any roaming capability
> > would be analog-only on 800MHz, and digital on 1900. The "tri-mode"
800
> > analog/800 digital/1900 digital phones came later, after the 800MHz
> > carriers began converting to digital.
>
> Remember Sprint's advertisements, "The Largest All-Digital Network."
And it was true. The fact that AT&T Wireless's, Cingular's, and Verizon's
digital networks were much larger than Sprint's didn't matter because
each of them also still had analog and hence were not "All-Digital."
>
> > I recently found (and subsequently tossed) the analog adapter module
for
> > my ancient Voicestream (now T-Mobile) Nokia 5190. It snapped on in-
> > between the phone and battery and allowed the 1900 GSM-only phone to
roam
> > on 800 analog.
>
> I remember seeing those, but you're the first person I ever knew to
have one!
I never actually used it. It came with a used 5190 I bought on eBay, and
the seller never even mentioned it in the listing. The 5190 was
purchased specifically to use with a Cellsocket to replace a home phone
line in my last house. I plugged the analog module in for grins but by
then T-Mobile no longer supported analog roaming.
>
>That $942 let's me buy a Cricket unlimited AIRCARD for my mobile router
>and netbook for 12 x $40 = $480/year. $942-$480 STILL saves me $462/year
>with FULL INTERNET SERVICE to whatever I want to plug the Cricket aircard
>into....not some stupid hobbled up little smartphone that doesn't play
>Livestation TV or any other streaming media I want, when and where I want
>it. Cricket aircard has NO additional charges and NO contract nonsense.
>The A600 USB aircard was free.
>
>$462 is STILL pretty serious money even AFTER the internet toys have
>mobile service all over town....(c;]
>
>It just makes better sense.....
Good idea above Larry..... exactly what I intend to
do...... you use CardlePoint mobile router yes?
On 10/8/2010 9:44 AM, me@privacy.net wrote:
> Larry<noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>> That $942 let's me buy a Cricket unlimited AIRCARD for my mobile router
>
> Just found out no Cricket service for me here
>
> I will have to use Virgin Mobile Unlimited broadband
> service I guess
That's a great deal if you have good native Sprint coverage in your area.
In article <Xns9E0B7CB25215Enoonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, noone@home.com
says...
> But, unlike you, I took the time to explain, in detail, how this person
> could get hooked to PP, telling them not to try a Sprint phone, and, in
> detail, what to expect as a PP customer.....unlike your usual terse, and
> sometimes quite acid, little 10 liners.
OK, that's fair.
>
> Notice all the other posters who went to great detail about THEIR pageplus
> service.....(crickets chirping)....
Well, see, here's the point. I said nothing about PagePlus because I've
never used them, and know nothing about them.
Now, I'm not saying you contribute nothing. I'm saying that when you
post about stuff that you are not familiar with, it's generally
speculation, and completely inaccurate. That's obnoxious, and when you
post completely inaccurate stuff, I'm *going to call you on it.*
On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 01:37:06 -0400, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> wrote in
> newsp.vj8kvxhtitl47o@acer250.gateway.2wire.net:
>
>> Alltel in CT may be a stretch ... but I'll see ... Thx 4 the tips.
>> Anyway, if I do find a likely candidate handset, how to confirm w/
>> Page Plus that it will work through their plan(s) without first
>> dropping the $10 for a starter without yet knowing for sure?
>
> Pull battery and record mile-long MEID on paper so you can give it to
> them.
>
> Turn the phone on and let it log onto its native CDMA carrier, then:
>
> Call (800) 550-2436 from any DIFFERENT phone so it can be programmed over
> the air.
Cute mnemonic -- 2436 = AGEN(t) :-) .
> Tell the nice lady you have a CDMA phone and want to buy Pageplus service
> if the phone works on PP.
>
> She will ask for your ECN (MEID) and you carefully read it to her.
"ECN" ... Is that also referred to as "ESN"? The Sprint PCS dual that I'll
probably be unable to use has an 11-digit "ESN"; a Verizon-branded LG I have
(that I can't use 'cuz it has neither charger nor battery :-{ ) uses a
14-character (alphanumeric) "MEID".
> She enters the MEID so the system can find the phone you're NOT using to
> call her. The system finds the phone, she presses a few buttons after
> you give her all your information to setup a new account and the phone
> goes into reload (or she tells you to dial #22890/#22891 on some phones).
> The current system loads PP data into the phone without reprogramming the
> current firmware and she tells you when it's ready for use....in about 2
> minutes, usually.
>
> You call out on your new PP phone to verify it works (just dial PP
> support at #737, not 611. If you dial 611, you get Verizon Wireless,
> useless.
Another cute mnemonic -- 737 = PDQ :-) .
> While you have her online, having verified the phone on its new PP number
> works fine, tell her you'd like to port your old number over to that new
Heh ... in my case there's no old number to port. They'll just *assign*
a new number? in my current area?
> phone/account from whatever it's on, now. She ports the number and that
> might take some time to grind through the system. You call your old
> number to verify when it rings the PP phone a couple hours later......
>
> Your calls go from $70/month to 4c/min with NO FUNNY BUSINESS. Every
> month, you notice this charge on your PP online account webpage:
>
> 0 0 02:37 AM EST Sep. 25, 2010 82.83 82.33 Audits
> (Daily Access Fee, Quick Access)
>
> which I copied right off mine just now.,,,,,, The princely sum of 50
> cents deducted from your prepaid balance, which NEVER goes away IF you
> simply buy a minimum of $10/100 mins every 4 months, but can just enter a
> bigger amount's PIN number from callingmart.com at 7% current discount,
> if you like. $80 card for $74.40 = 2000 minutes of service = 3.72c/min
> actual cost, but you'll notice all calls are charged at 4c/min ($80 card
> rate you only paid $74.40 for from Callingmart.com account.) It takes me
> forever to use up $80 on Pageplus....which is wonderful!
>
> If you screw up and don't let the call complete, it shows up like this:
> 0 08:45 AM EST Sep. 30, 2010 81.41 81.41 Abbreviated
> Dialing
> (I deleted the number I dialed, of course, which also shows up on the
> call log.) Notice I was NOT charged.
>
> A regular call out has the number plus this:
> 6 12:57 PM EST Sep. 29, 2010 81.65 81.41 Successful
> O/G calls
> (all on one line)
>
> When someone calls you, you get their caller ID number plus this:
> 7 04:58 PM EST Sep. 26, 2010 82.29 82.01 Successful
> I/C calls
>
> If someone calls you and you do not answer, you get the caller ID plus:
> 0 01:40 PM EST Sep. 23, 2010 83.75 83.75 Calling
> Party Abandon
> Again....NO CHARGES, NO FUNNY BUSINESS, no matter how long they let it
> ring. I do not have voicemail active, so I don't have to pay to call it
> and listen to messages. If they want me, they'll call back soon. I'm
> retired!
>
> When you call an 800 number, you see the 800 number plus this:
> 11 03:48 PM EST Aug. 26, 2010 89.63 89.19 Successful
> O/G calls
> You are charged for airtime on 800 numbers, same as any other number
> except calling PP on #737 to put in a new pin or #CCARE to talk to the
> nice ladies in Ohio. Those calls are free, as expected.
>
> Again...NO SURPRISES, NO FUNNY BUSINESS, NO CHARGES NOONE CAN
> IDENTIFY.... (c;]
>
>
>
> After overcharging up my account because there was a 10% Callingmart
> special at Christmas 2009, Here's my total phone replenishment ($20) for
> 2010. It's almost like stealing service!
>
> REPLENISH DATE AMOUNT ADDED ENDING BALANCE
> Oct. 07, 2010 $10 $89.65
>
> Jun. 11, 2010 $10 $127.49
>
>
> iPhone my ***....(c;]
>
> With the $70 + $18 monthly "fees and charges" X 12 months = $1056 (for
> Verizon with smartphone data) minus ($127.49 - 89.65) = 37.84 from June
> to Oct phone service X 3 periods = $113.52/YEAR for PP phone
> service....so $1056 - 113.52 = $942.48 SAVED!
>
> That $942 let's me buy a Cricket unlimited AIRCARD for my mobile router
> and netbook for 12 x $40 = $480/year. $942-$480 STILL saves me $462/year
> with FULL INTERNET SERVICE to whatever I want to plug the Cricket aircard
> into....not some stupid hobbled up little smartphone that doesn't play
> Livestation TV or any other streaming media I want, when and where I want
> it. Cricket aircard has NO additional charges and NO contract nonsense.
> The A600 USB aircard was free.
Whose cellular data network services is Cricket reselling, if I may ask?
And is that GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTA/HSPA data or CDMA/WCDMA data?
> $462 is STILL pretty serious money even AFTER the internet toys have
> mobile service all over town....(c;]
>
> It just makes better sense.....
Thanks, Larry, many many thanks; astonishingly complete detail in an era
when most folks leave more than half what needs saying unsaid :-) .
With luck there'll be no more I need to ask, but if not, I'll know
where to turn.
Cheers, -- tlvp
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On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 02:52:07 -0400, Steve Sobol <sjsobol@justthe.net> wrote:
> In article <Xns9E0AE2C30CEADnoonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, noone@home.com
> says...
>>
>> tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> newsp.vj8fs0bbitl47o@acer250.gateway.2wire.net:
>>
>> > BTW: the digital Sprint PCS service is 1900 MHz; the analog is 800 MHz.
>> >
>>
>> I don't think that will work. Most Verizon is on the old 850 Mhz band in
>> CDMA, no analog left. So, I don't recommend getting any Sprint phones
>> because lots of them are only the PCS bands that I've seen, to save
>> sprint money and prevent churning, of course.
>
>
> Larry, as usual, every time you open your mouth about Sprint, you expose
> your ignorance.
Steve, don't harpoon Larry here, harpoon me, but be aware ...
> Sprint has never has anything besides 1900 MHz digital coverage on their
> network. By the time they got into the game, most if not all of the
> 800/850 MHz spectrum was licensed by other carriers.
.... you're just confirming what I described: a Sprint PCS cellular handset,
with a "dual" logo on the faceplate, described as capable of using the
1.9 GHz Sprint PCS CDMA network as well as roaming on other carriers' 800
MHz analog networks. What "ignorance" can Larry expose when *I* write that?
> I don't even think the old (and tiny) Sprint Spectrum GSM network had
> analog coverage or 850 MHz coverage.
No one claimed any analog or 850 MHz coverage for Sprint, nor GSM.
But the handset I described has analog 800 MHz roaming capability.
So quit bullying Larry for claims neither he nor I made, OK? Thanks.
And remember: the handset I was describing is Sprint's old TouchPoint
TP2200, vintage A.D. 2000, a 10-year-old dual-mode/dual-band antique.
Cheers, -- tlvp
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On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 08:06:34 -0400, Todd Allcock <elecconnec@anoospaml.com> wrote:
>
> I recently found (and subsequently tossed) the analog adapter module for
> my ancient Voicestream (now T-Mobile) Nokia 5190. It snapped on in-
> between the phone and battery and allowed the 1900 GSM-only phone to roam
> on 800 analog.
Unbelievable! My very first US-bought cellular handset -- and third cellular
handset at all -- was exactly a Voicestream Nokia 5190. First handset was a
Moto TimePort P7389, a 3-band unit, bought unlocked and unsubsidized in Belgium
for use, back home, on OmniPoint, or so I thought -- except that OmniPoint
wouldn't sell me a SIM on the grounds that it was an "unsupported" handset.
So why a third handset? And what was the second? And wha'hopp'm to the first?
The day Voicestream (VS) took over from OmniPoint, VS was overjoyed to sell
me a SIM for that P7389. A year later, returning from Europe with a second
P7389, I tried to get VS to sell me a SIM for that as well, but they refused,
indicating that I'd be better off to start my new line of service with a free
Nokia 5190 with free SIM, and just swap the free SIM into the new P7389.
-- Couldn't they just send along the SIM and keep the 5190?
-- Yes, they could, but they'd have to charge me for it, while
including it for free with the free handset it'd be free.
Why should I argue?
So much for how I happen to *have* a Nokia 5190.
Now, my regret -- that you actually *tossed* that Nokia analog adapter module :-{ .
I'd never been able to get my hands on one through VS, but had always wanted to.
By the time VS became T-Mobile (T-Mo), though, they were no longer on offer.
Of course, by today there may no longer be an T-Mo roaming agreements active
with any analog carriers in the rural hinterlands where analog still survives.
But still, to have such an adapter and just *toss* it ... I'd have taken it :-) .
(Sigh!)
Cheers, -- tlvp
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On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 01:18:00 -0400, Todd Allcock <elecconnec@anoospaml.com> wrote:
> At 07 Oct 2010 18:46:23 -0400 tlvp wrote:
>>Question: Old Sprint PCS Touchpoint TP-2200 "dual" handset
>> (options for analog only, Sprint PCS only, or auto-switch),
>> not currently in service, but still raising a Sprint signal --
>>
>> any hope to enlist the services of Page Plus for that handset?
>>
>> How to find out, for sure, *before* dropping the first Page Plus
>> service fee payment?
>
>
> Page Plus includes a few free minutes with new activations for testing
> the service.
Aha! Thanks for that tid-bit, Todd, one of the few (self-evident?) items
that Larry omitted.
> Sprint handsets tend to be problematic, however, because they can't be
> programmed OTA by Page Plus (Verizon,) not can they download a verizon PRL,
> usually, which might force the phone to roam where it shouldn't. Unless
> you can program it manually via the keypad, you're probably SOL.
What with your remarks, on the one hand, and the frequency disparity
(1900 for the TP-2200, vs. 800/850 for the VZW CDMA network), on the other,
I guess I should swap that TP-2200 for an equivalent-or-better VZW handset first.
Cheers, -- tlvp
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>> I will have to use Virgin Mobile Unlimited broadband
>> service I guess
>
>That's a great deal if you have good native Sprint coverage in your area.
On 10/8/10 12:12 PM, Larry wrote:
> SMS<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:4caf246a$0$1582
> $742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
>
>> I remember seeing those, but you're the first person I ever knew to have
>> one!
>>
>
> Some guys on this newsgroup are real old.....(c;]
Larry was on the other end of the line when Alexander Graham Bell made
that first call... :>)
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"tlvp" <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> wrote in message
newsp.vj944wf7itl47o@acer250.gateway.2wire.net.. .
> On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 08:06:34 -0400, Todd Allcock
> <elecconnec@anoospaml.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I recently found (and subsequently tossed) the analog adapter module for
>> my ancient Voicestream (now T-Mobile) Nokia 5190. It snapped on in-
>> between the phone and battery and allowed the 1900 GSM-only phone to roam
>> on 800 analog.
>
> Now, my regret -- that you actually *tossed* that Nokia analog adapter
> module :-{ .
> I'd never been able to get my hands on one through VS, but had always
> wanted to.
> By the time VS became T-Mobile (T-Mo), though, they were no longer on
> offer.
> Of course, by today there may no longer be an T-Mo roaming agreements
> active
> with any analog carriers in the rural hinterlands where analog still
> survives.
> But still, to have such an adapter and just *toss* it ... I'd have taken
> it :-) .
> (Sigh!)
Sorry! By the time VS became T-Mo, all of the analog roaming agreements
were long dead. I suppose I could've used it for ARM (The "American Roaming
Network" that allows you to make outgoing calls only with any unactivated
CDMA or analog cellphone) but as an ex-Cingular dealer, I already had far
too many dead analog phones laying around, many of which were smaller and
less hassle than the adapter, which made the 5190 roughly twice its original
size. I actually tried programming the adapter with its own phone number-
at the time I was using Beyond Wireless as my "backup" carrier- Beyond was
an AT&T TDMA reseller, and they'd activate analog-only devices if you lied
and told them they were TDMA phones. I kept my very first cellphone- an
analog Nokia clone of the old Motorola "brick" handheld, activated with
Beyond all the way up to the day AT&T shut down analog service.
Why I love Pageplus.... 
p.vj6uuur0itl47o@acer250.gateway.2wire.net:
By the time VS became T-Mo, all of the analog roaming agreements
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