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Old 03-06-2008, 07:05 PM
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"Today Apple announced that they have licensed ActiveSync from Microsoft to
enable full Exchange intregration with the iPhone. The first thing you think
of with ActiveSync is Push Email (that's when email is sent to your iPhone
as soon as it is recieved, as opposed to one a schedule like every 15
minutes). ActiveSync includes that as well as:

* Wireless calendar syncing
* Wireless contact syncing
* Remote wipe of the device if it is lost

This goes way beyond simple email, folks. This only works when you're
connected to an Exchange backend though, so don't be afraid that someone can
randomly wipe all the data from your iPhone.

ActiveSync will be included in the iPhone 2.0 software, available sometime
in late June."

http://www.tuaw.com/2008/03/06/apple...or-the-iphone/


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Old 03-06-2008, 07:11 PM
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Tinman wrote:

> * Remote wipe of the device if it is lost
>
> This only works when you're
> connected to an Exchange backend though, so don't be afraid that someone can
> randomly wipe all the data from your iPhone.



....and the first exploit will be...

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Old 03-06-2008, 07:30 PM
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"Tinman" <ask@for.it> wrote in message
news:63b10aF26u84jU1@mid.individual.net...
> "Today Apple announced that they have licensed ActiveSync from Microsoft
> to enable full Exchange intregration with the iPhone. The first thing you
> think of with ActiveSync is Push Email (that's when email is sent to your
> iPhone as soon as it is recieved, as opposed to one a schedule like every
> 15 minutes). ActiveSync includes that as well as:
>
> * Wireless calendar syncing
> * Wireless contact syncing
> * Remote wipe of the device if it is lost
>
> This goes way beyond simple email, folks. This only works when you're
> connected to an Exchange backend though, so don't be afraid that someone
> can randomly wipe all the data from your iPhone.
>
> ActiveSync will be included in the iPhone 2.0 software, available sometime
> in late June."
>
> http://www.tuaw.com/2008/03/06/apple...or-the-iphone/


Cool. NOW it's an enterprise-class device.




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Old 03-06-2008, 08:41 PM
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Default Re: Apple licenses ActiveSync for the iPhone

On Mar 6, 3:11 pm, News <N...@Group.name> wrote:
> Tinman wrote:
> > * Remote wipe of the device if it is lost

>
> > This only works when you're
> > connected to an Exchange backend though, so don't be afraid that someone can
> > randomly wipe all the data from your iPhone.

>
> ...and the first exploit will be...


What part of "This only works when you're connected to an Exchange
backend though, so don't be afraid that someone can randomly wipe all
the data from your iPhone." did you not understand?

It must be the Waffle House coffee that you guys drink that prevents
you from understanding simple statements about the iPhone.

iPhone users get their coffee at Starbucks.


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Old 03-06-2008, 08:55 PM
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4phun wrote:
> On Mar 6, 3:11 pm, News <N...@Group.name> wrote:
>
>>Tinman wrote:
>>
>>> * Remote wipe of the device if it is lost

>>
>>>This only works when you're
>>>connected to an Exchange backend though, so don't be afraid that someone can
>>>randomly wipe all the data from your iPhone.

>>
>>...and the first exploit will be...

>
>
> What part of "This only works when you're connected to an Exchange
> backend though, so don't be afraid that someone can randomly wipe all
> the data from your iPhone." did you not understand?



....and the first exploit will be...

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Old 03-06-2008, 10:59 PM
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Default Re: Apple licenses ActiveSync for the iPhone

On Mar 6, 3:30*pm, "Todd Allcock" <eleccon...@AmericaOnLine.com>
wrote:
> "Tinman" <a...@for.it> wrote in message
>
> news:63b10aF26u84jU1@mid.individual.net...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Today Apple announced that they have licensed ActiveSync from Microsoft
> > to enable full Exchange intregration with the iPhone. The first thing you
> > think of with ActiveSync is Push Email (that's when email is sent to your
> > iPhone as soon as it is recieved, as opposed to one a schedule like every
> > 15 minutes). ActiveSync includes that as well as:

>
> > * ** Wireless calendar syncing
> > * ** Wireless contact syncing
> > * ** Remote wipe of the device if it is lost

>
> > This goes way beyond simple email, folks. This only works when you're
> > connected to an Exchange backend though, so don't be afraid that someone
> > can randomly wipe all the data from your iPhone.

>
> > ActiveSync will be included in the iPhone 2.0 software, available sometime
> > in late June."

>
> >http://www.tuaw.com/2008/03/06/apple...or-the-iphone/

>
> Cool. *NOW it's an enterprise-class device.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Do you work at a large company that runs Exchange or a Cisco VPN? Have
a secure WiFi network running 802.1x? Do you wish that your iPhone
would play nice? Well, with today's announcements the iPhone will soon
be a good enterprise citizen, but what if you can't wait until June?
You can apply for the iPhone Enterprise Beta and help Apple iron out
the kinks in the new software, and be the first kid on your block with
ActiveSync on your iPhone.

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Old 03-07-2008, 04:55 PM
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Tinman wrote:
> "Today Apple announced that they have licensed ActiveSync from Microsoft to
> enable full Exchange intregration with the iPhone. The first thing you think
> of with ActiveSync is Push Email (that's when email is sent to your iPhone
> as soon as it is recieved, as opposed to one a schedule like every 15
> minutes). ActiveSync includes that as well as:
>
> * Wireless calendar syncing
> * Wireless contact syncing
> * Remote wipe of the device if it is lost
>
> This goes way beyond simple email, folks. This only works when you're
> connected to an Exchange backend though, so don't be afraid that someone can
> randomly wipe all the data from your iPhone.
>
> ActiveSync will be included in the iPhone 2.0 software, available sometime
> in late June."


Will the 2.0 software add voice dialing as well? A hands-free law takes
effect in California on July 1st 2008.

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Old 03-07-2008, 06:27 PM
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SMS wrote:
>
> Will the 2.0 software add voice dialing as well? A hands-free law
> takes effect in California on July 1st 2008.


Probably. But I already have voice dialing so couldn't care less what Apple
does. In fact if 2.0 can't be jailbroken, with no replacement for the apps I
use now, I doubt I'll even install it.

And make no mistake the SDK, or at the very least its supporting framework
documentation, will spur even more 3rd party development in the coming
months. Even without the SDK the number of apps, and the diversity within,
is downright amazing. I suspected back in August that the accelerometer
would be used for far more than rotating the display automatically. Sure
enough an increasing number of apps use it (it has fantastic sensitivity and
granularity). Sega demo'd Super Monkey Ball that uses it almost entirely for
control.

Anyway, most of the people I know with iPhones, who did not want to get into
jailbreaking due to the upcoming SDK, have now had enough of Apple's BS and
are jumping into the jailbreak fray. There are of course the Apple sheeple
who believe Steve Jobs is God and therefore wouldn't do anything to cross
him. But Apple could package dog shit in a shiny box and those appleologists
would buy it and rave about it--so there opinion means nothing to me (they
think jailbreaking is a felony offense <chuckle>).


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Old 03-07-2008, 06:29 PM
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Default Re: Apple licenses ActiveSync for the iPhone

Tinman wrote:
> in a shiny box and those appleologists would buy it and rave about
> it--so there opinion...


Uh, make that "their" (violated one of my own pet peeves).



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Old 03-07-2008, 08:30 PM
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"News" <News@Group.name> wrote in message
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>> What part of "This only works when you're connected to an Exchange
>> backend though, so don't be afraid that someone can randomly wipe all
>> the data from your iPhone." did you not understand?

>
>
> ...and the first exploit will be...


....probably already done, if possible. This isn't a new feature- it's been
an Activesync feature on Palm and WinMo for quite awhile. Why would the
iPhone getting it lead to an exploit of the feature if it hadn't been done
already?

The wipe has to be done from the Exchange server storing the info the phone
syncs with.





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Old 03-08-2008, 01:40 PM
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Tinman wrote:
> SMS wrote:
>> Will the 2.0 software add voice dialing as well? A hands-free law
>> takes effect in California on July 1st 2008.

>
> Probably. But I already have voice dialing so couldn't care less what Apple
> does. In fact if 2.0 can't be jailbroken, with no replacement for the apps I
> use now, I doubt I'll even install it.


I was going to buy an iPhone this week and unlock it, for an upcoming
trip to Taiwan where I'd rather not bring my tablet PC. But I'd rather
wait for 2.0 to be unlocked, as this sounds like a very big new release.
I need to be able to use a prepaid SIM in whatever phone I bring to
Asia. Now I have an ancient Motorola 900/1800/1900 which is useless in
the U.S. since it has no 800 MHz, but fine for Europe and Asia.

Ironically, if Apple unlocked the iPhone, but went to a standard sales
model of a contract price and non-contract price, they wouldn't be
struggling with iPhone sales, IMVAIO. It would benefit both them and AT&T.

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Old 03-08-2008, 02:20 PM
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SMS wrote:
>
> Ironically, if Apple unlocked the iPhone, but went to a standard sales
> model of a contract price and non-contract price, they wouldn't be
> struggling with iPhone sales, IMVAIO. It would benefit both them and
> AT&T.


Yea, that is odd that they don't do that. Considering the premium people are
paying right now for unlocked iPhones--even though almost anyone can do it
now--I'd say Apple left a lot of money on the table. The other benefit is
that unlocking it wouldn't have been such a big target. While it may have
been unlocked anyway, no one would have gotten "famous" over it.

OTOH chaos theory being what it is...


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Old 03-08-2008, 03:58 PM
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Tinman wrote:
> SMS wrote:
>> Ironically, if Apple unlocked the iPhone, but went to a standard sales
>> model of a contract price and non-contract price, they wouldn't be
>> struggling with iPhone sales, IMVAIO. It would benefit both them and
>> AT&T.

>
> Yea, that is odd that they don't do that. Considering the premium people are
> paying right now for unlocked iPhones--even though almost anyone can do it
> now--I'd say Apple left a lot of money on the table. The other benefit is
> that unlocking it wouldn't have been such a big target. While it may have
> been unlocked anyway, no one would have gotten "famous" over it.


It's not just unlocking it to use it in the U.S. on T-Mobile. There are
many people that would be happy to use it on AT&T, but want to use a
prepaid SIM card on an unlocked phone when traveling outside the U.S..
Geez, AT&T will even unlock their other phones for people that want to
do this.

The iPhone is an almost perfect travel phone. Quad-band, Wi-Fi access,
and music player. You can leave your laptop and MP3 player at home for
trips where you just need e-mail and simple web access. I guess a Touch
plus a GSM quad band phone is okay, but the Touch isn't priced much less
than an iPhone.

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Old 03-08-2008, 06:09 PM
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"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
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> The iPhone is an almost perfect travel phone.


Almost! It just needs a few more things after Exchange support. (The
inability to sync contacts and calendar info OTA was a major problem for
business travelers that Exchange will fix.)

>Quad-band, Wi-Fi access, and music player. You can leave your laptop and
>MP3 player at home for trips where you just need e-mail and simple web
>access. I guess a Touch plus a GSM quad band phone is okay, but the Touch
>isn't priced much less than an iPhone.


I stopped traveling with a laptop awhile ago (except on family vacations
where it's mainly to entertain the kids.)

Why WinMo still reigns supreme as a laptop replacement, IMO, is remote
desktop access (handy for retrieving the docs I've forgotten to bring with
me) and the ability to store needed documents on board. An oft-traveling
iPhone-toting friend of mine e-mails all of his important documents to
himself right before a trip to have access to them on his iPhone while he's
away! An advanced phone with GBs of storage should not need such a kludge
to carry a few Word docs around for review. It's ironic that an iPhone can
carry 8,000 songs but zero spreadsheets!






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