This newsgroup is for discussion of topics directly related to Cingular
Wireless service, including voice, data (GPRS as well as GSM), and fax.
Non-commercial For Sale and Want To Buy notices for compatible products,
tagged in the subject line with "FS" and "WTB" respectively (without the
quote symbols), are permitted. All articles must be in plain text only,
in the English language, and human-readable.
Inappropriate (banned) articles:
* Off-topic (not directly related to Cingular Wireless service)
* Binaries (except for appended text-encoded digital signatures)
* Spam (including excessive cross-posting)
* Make-money-fast or other chain or fraudulent schemes
* Work-at-home or other scams
* Commercial advertisements, "infomercials," or announcements
* Auction notices (e.g., eBay)
* Forged articles (anonymous articles are allowed)
* Personal insults or repetitive flaming (attacks)
* Employment (help and/or position wanted) notices
This Charter is of my own doing. It's all B.S. But I have nothing else to do
in life other then post this silly crap. I break the charter all the time.
I just want to bore all the users of this newsgroup.
I want all to think this is my group and the only way the newbie's will know
this is by reading what I've posted.
"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
news:XWwdi.183561$p47.38296@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> CHARTER:
>
> This newsgroup is for discussion of topics directly related to Cingular
> Wireless service, including voice, data (GPRS as well as GSM), and fax.
> Non-commercial For Sale and Want To Buy notices for compatible products,
> tagged in the subject line with "FS" and "WTB" respectively (without the
> quote symbols), are permitted. All articles must be in plain text only,
> in the English language, and human-readable.
>
> Inappropriate (banned) articles:
> * Off-topic (not directly related to Cingular Wireless service)
> * Binaries (except for appended text-encoded digital signatures)
> * Spam (including excessive cross-posting)
> * Make-money-fast or other chain or fraudulent schemes
> * Work-at-home or other scams
> * Commercial advertisements, "infomercials," or announcements
> * Auction notices (e.g., eBay)
> * Forged articles (anonymous articles are allowed)
> * Personal insults or repetitive flaming (attacks)
> * Employment (help and/or position wanted) notices
>
> MODERATOR INFO:
>
> The group is unmoderated.
No offence, I am still waiting for a FAQ on "Extended GSM". Get a life,
moron.
In article <XWwdi.183561$p47.38296@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> CHARTER:
>
> This newsgroup is for discussion of topics directly related to Cingular
> Wireless service, including voice, data (GPRS as well as GSM), and fax.
> Non-commercial For Sale and Want To Buy notices for compatible products,
> tagged in the subject line with "FS" and "WTB" respectively (without the
> quote symbols), are permitted. All articles must be in plain text only,
> in the English language, and human-readable.
>
> Inappropriate (banned) articles:
> * Off-topic (not directly related to Cingular Wireless service)
> * Binaries (except for appended text-encoded digital signatures)
> * Spam (including excessive cross-posting)
> * Make-money-fast or other chain or fraudulent schemes
> * Work-at-home or other scams
> * Commercial advertisements, "infomercials," or announcements
> * Auction notices (e.g., eBay)
> * Forged articles (anonymous articles are allowed)
> * Personal insults or repetitive flaming (attacks)
> * Employment (help and/or position wanted) notices
>
> MODERATOR INFO:
>
> The group is unmoderated.
"sw" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:nospam-154E4F.00365719062007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net ...
> No offence, I am still waiting for a FAQ on "Extended GSM". Get a life,
> moron.
>
>
> In article <XWwdi.183561$p47.38296@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> CHARTER:
>>
>> This newsgroup is for discussion of topics directly related to Cingular
>> Wireless service, including voice, data (GPRS as well as GSM), and fax.
>> Non-commercial For Sale and Want To Buy notices for compatible products,
>> tagged in the subject line with "FS" and "WTB" respectively (without the
>> quote symbols), are permitted. All articles must be in plain text only,
>> in the English language, and human-readable.
>>
>> Inappropriate (banned) articles:
>> * Off-topic (not directly related to Cingular Wireless service)
>> * Binaries (except for appended text-encoded digital signatures)
>> * Spam (including excessive cross-posting)
>> * Make-money-fast or other chain or fraudulent schemes
>> * Work-at-home or other scams
>> * Commercial advertisements, "infomercials," or announcements
>> * Auction notices (e.g., eBay)
>> * Forged articles (anonymous articles are allowed)
>> * Personal insults or repetitive flaming (attacks)
>> * Employment (help and/or position wanted) notices
>>
>> MODERATOR INFO:
>>
>> The group is unmoderated.
The people of this newsgroup don't want your charter here! What is so hard
to understand about that? That is why you are like Rodney Dangerfield and
don't get no respect!
"sw" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:nospam-154E4F.00365719062007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net ...
> No offence, I am still waiting for a FAQ on "Extended GSM". Get a life,
> moron.
>
>
> In article <XWwdi.183561$p47.38296@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> CHARTER:
>>
>> This newsgroup is for discussion of topics directly related to Cingular
>> Wireless service, including voice, data (GPRS as well as GSM), and fax.
>> Non-commercial For Sale and Want To Buy notices for compatible products,
>> tagged in the subject line with "FS" and "WTB" respectively (without the
>> quote symbols), are permitted. All articles must be in plain text only,
>> in the English language, and human-readable.
>>
>> Inappropriate (banned) articles:
>> * Off-topic (not directly related to Cingular Wireless service)
>> * Binaries (except for appended text-encoded digital signatures)
>> * Spam (including excessive cross-posting)
>> * Make-money-fast or other chain or fraudulent schemes
>> * Work-at-home or other scams
>> * Commercial advertisements, "infomercials," or announcements
>> * Auction notices (e.g., eBay)
>> * Forged articles (anonymous articles are allowed)
>> * Personal insults or repetitive flaming (attacks)
>> * Employment (help and/or position wanted) notices
>>
>> MODERATOR INFO:
>>
>> The group is unmoderated.
Nokia Extended Cell feature
* Nokia Extended Cell: very large cell radius for
selected site locations
* The feature is based on 2 TRX:
* regular TRX serving area up to 35 km
* second TRX with delayed receive signal serving
the extended area (up to 70 km)
* Key benefits of the Nokia solution:
* Extended coverage area allows to capture
additional traffic and reduce costs
* Full capacity utilized: 95% timeslots of 2 TRX
are used for mobile traffic -- no wasted capacity
* Flexible placement of capacity: free adjustment
of the range (and overlap area) of two TRX
serving 1 sector
* Additional capacity can be added to both the regular
and extended area by adding TRX
* By adding SRC to the site:
* a lower mast can be used for achieving the
same coverage
* output power in Extended TRX is boosted
For more information, contact Nokia.
Other GSM manufacturers (e.g., Motorola) have comparable features.
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 06:32:43 GMT, "Kevin Weaver"
<kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
<fMKdi.17031$y_7.7834@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net >:
>I'll 2nd that.
>
>"sw" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:nospam-154E4F.00365719062007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net ...
>> No offence, I am still waiting for a FAQ on "Extended GSM". Get a life,
>> moron.
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
The below isn't the charter for alt.cellular.attws.
ftp.isc.org doesn't have a charter for a.c.attws, so it is a rogue
group.
The below is the charter for a.c.cingular only. ftp.isc.org does have
it and Navas' name is in it.
Stephen
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:48:23 GMT, John Navas
<spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> had a flock of green cheek conures squawk
out:
>CHARTER:
>
>This newsgroup is for discussion of topics directly related to Cingular
>Wireless service, including voice, data (GPRS as well as GSM), and fax.
>Non-commercial For Sale and Want To Buy notices for compatible products,
>tagged in the subject line with "FS" and "WTB" respectively (without the
>quote symbols), are permitted. All articles must be in plain text only,
>in the English language, and human-readable.
>
>Inappropriate (banned) articles:
>* Off-topic (not directly related to Cingular Wireless service)
>* Binaries (except for appended text-encoded digital signatures)
>* Spam (including excessive cross-posting)
>* Make-money-fast or other chain or fraudulent schemes
>* Work-at-home or other scams
>* Commercial advertisements, "infomercials," or announcements
>* Auction notices (e.g., eBay)
>* Forged articles (anonymous articles are allowed)
>* Personal insults or repetitive flaming (attacks)
>* Employment (help and/or position wanted) notices
>
>MODERATOR INFO:
>
>The group is unmoderated.
--
Wow, Only what, 3 plus months from when you talked about it to now. Had to
wait for the info page huh.
"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
news:5h1g73h1ua55mj59nt1qnpm8gbsmpcq1pd@4ax.com...
> How then can I resist?
>
> Nokia Extended Cell feature
> * Nokia Extended Cell: very large cell radius for
> selected site locations
> * The feature is based on 2 TRX:
> * regular TRX serving area up to 35 km
> * second TRX with delayed receive signal serving
> the extended area (up to 70 km)
> * Key benefits of the Nokia solution:
> * Extended coverage area allows to capture
> additional traffic and reduce costs
> * Full capacity utilized: 95% timeslots of 2 TRX
> are used for mobile traffic -- no wasted capacity
> * Flexible placement of capacity: free adjustment
> of the range (and overlap area) of two TRX
> serving 1 sector
> * Additional capacity can be added to both the regular
> and extended area by adding TRX
> * By adding SRC to the site:
> * a lower mast can be used for achieving the
> same coverage
> * output power in Extended TRX is boosted
>
> For more information, contact Nokia.
>
> Other GSM manufacturers (e.g., Motorola) have comparable features.
>
>
> On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 06:32:43 GMT, "Kevin Weaver"
> <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
> <fMKdi.17031$y_7.7834@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net >:
>
>>I'll 2nd that.
>>
>>"sw" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>news:nospam-154E4F.00365719062007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net ...
>>> No offence, I am still waiting for a FAQ on "Extended GSM". Get a life,
>>> moron.
>
> --
> Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
> John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
Search engine challenged?
1. I actually talked about it long before that.
2. I've posted info on it a number of times.
3. This info is from Nokia documentation, not an "info page".
This is of course a total waste of my time, but I digress.
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 12:23:13 -0700, "Kevin Weaver"
<kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
<03Wdi.5227$c06.2417@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net> :
>Wow, Only what, 3 plus months from when you talked about it to now. Had to
>wait for the info page huh.
>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>news:5h1g73h1ua55mj59nt1qnpm8gbsmpcq1pd@4ax.com.. .
>> How then can I resist?
>>
>> Nokia Extended Cell feature
>> * Nokia Extended Cell: very large cell radius for
>> selected site locations
>> * The feature is based on 2 TRX:
>> * regular TRX serving area up to 35 km
>> * second TRX with delayed receive signal serving
>> the extended area (up to 70 km)
>> * Key benefits of the Nokia solution:
>> * Extended coverage area allows to capture
>> additional traffic and reduce costs
>> * Full capacity utilized: 95% timeslots of 2 TRX
>> are used for mobile traffic -- no wasted capacity
>> * Flexible placement of capacity: free adjustment
>> of the range (and overlap area) of two TRX
>> serving 1 sector
>> * Additional capacity can be added to both the regular
>> and extended area by adding TRX
>> * By adding SRC to the site:
>> * a lower mast can be used for achieving the
>> same coverage
>> * output power in Extended TRX is boosted
>>
>> For more information, contact Nokia.
>>
>> Other GSM manufacturers (e.g., Motorola) have comparable features.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 06:32:43 GMT, "Kevin Weaver"
>> <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
>> <fMKdi.17031$y_7.7834@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net >:
>>
>>>I'll 2nd that.
>>>
>>>"sw" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>news:nospam-154E4F.00365719062007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net ...
>>>> No offence, I am still waiting for a FAQ on "Extended GSM". Get a life,
>>>> moron.
>>
>> --
>> Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
>> John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
OMG, it is such a hilarious and uneducated reply that I almost fall of
the chair while reading your post. You have no idea what the heck is
"Extended GSM". BTW, this thing doesn't even exist in United States. You
need to try harder next time.
In article <5h1g73h1ua55mj59nt1qnpm8gbsmpcq1pd@4ax.com>,
John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> How then can I resist?
>
> Nokia Extended Cell feature
> * Nokia Extended Cell: very large cell radius for
> selected site locations
> * The feature is based on 2 TRX:
> * regular TRX serving area up to 35 km
> * second TRX with delayed receive signal serving
> the extended area (up to 70 km)
> * Key benefits of the Nokia solution:
> * Extended coverage area allows to capture
> additional traffic and reduce costs
> * Full capacity utilized: 95% timeslots of 2 TRX
> are used for mobile traffic -- no wasted capacity
> * Flexible placement of capacity: free adjustment
> of the range (and overlap area) of two TRX
> serving 1 sector
> * Additional capacity can be added to both the regular
> and extended area by adding TRX
> * By adding SRC to the site:
> * a lower mast can be used for achieving the
> same coverage
> * output power in Extended TRX is boosted
>
> For more information, contact Nokia.
>
> Other GSM manufacturers (e.g., Motorola) have comparable features.
>
>
> On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 06:32:43 GMT, "Kevin Weaver"
> <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
> <fMKdi.17031$y_7.7834@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net >:
>
> >I'll 2nd that.
> >
> >"sw" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >news:nospam-154E4F.00365719062007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net ...
> >> No offence, I am still waiting for a FAQ on "Extended GSM". Get a life,
> >> moron.
"sw" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:nospam-1200BA.23021219062007@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com ...
> OMG, it is such a hilarious and uneducated reply that I almost fall of
> the chair while reading your post. You have no idea what the heck is
> "Extended GSM". BTW, this thing doesn't even exist in United States. You
> need to try harder next time.
>
>
> In article <5h1g73h1ua55mj59nt1qnpm8gbsmpcq1pd@4ax.com>,
> John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> How then can I resist?
>>
>> Nokia Extended Cell feature
>> * Nokia Extended Cell: very large cell radius for
>> selected site locations
>> * The feature is based on 2 TRX:
>> * regular TRX serving area up to 35 km
>> * second TRX with delayed receive signal serving
>> the extended area (up to 70 km)
>> * Key benefits of the Nokia solution:
>> * Extended coverage area allows to capture
>> additional traffic and reduce costs
>> * Full capacity utilized: 95% timeslots of 2 TRX
>> are used for mobile traffic -- no wasted capacity
>> * Flexible placement of capacity: free adjustment
>> of the range (and overlap area) of two TRX
>> serving 1 sector
>> * Additional capacity can be added to both the regular
>> and extended area by adding TRX
>> * By adding SRC to the site:
>> * a lower mast can be used for achieving the
>> same coverage
>> * output power in Extended TRX is boosted
>>
>> For more information, contact Nokia.
>>
>> Other GSM manufacturers (e.g., Motorola) have comparable features.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 06:32:43 GMT, "Kevin Weaver"
>> <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
>> <fMKdi.17031$y_7.7834@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net >:
>>
>> >I'll 2nd that.
>> >
>> >"sw" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >news:nospam-154E4F.00365719062007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net ...
>> >> No offence, I am still waiting for a FAQ on "Extended GSM". Get a
>> >> life,
>> >> moron.
Kevin Weaver wrote:
> Notice how navas did not reply to this ?
Notice that Navas did admit that no US carrier was using it.
Notice that it took him several months to discover that Extended GSM does
in fact exist, but in reference to frequency range - not as in extended
range, i.e. mileage.
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 22:46:13 GMT, DTC <no_spam@move_along_folks.foob>
wrote in <V6iei.1801$iz5.293@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.n et>:
>Kevin Weaver wrote:
>> Notice how navas did not reply to this ?
Nothing of substance to respond to.
>Notice that Navas did admit that no US carrier was using it.
Not true.
>Notice that it took him several months to discover that Extended GSM does
>in fact exist, but in reference to frequency range - not as in extended
>range, i.e. mileage.
Likewise not true.
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
John Navas wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 22:46:13 GMT, DTC <no_spam@move_along_folks.foob>
> wrote in <V6iei.1801$iz5.293@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.n et>:
>
>> Kevin Weaver wrote:
>>> Notice how navas did not reply to this ?
>
> Nothing of substance to respond to.
>
>> Notice that Navas did admit that no US carrier was using it.
>
> Not true.
Blatantly false. You insisted that Cingular/AT&T supported it off the coast
of San Fransisco it as you claim you have used it.
>> Notice that it took him several months to discover that Extended GSM does
>> in fact exist, but in reference to frequency range - not as in extended
>> range, i.e. mileage.
>
> Likewise not true.
Blatantly false. You never mentioned any reference to Extended GSM in the
context of extended frequencies. Also, this is your first post referring to
an extended range (distance) GSM.
John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in
news:eifl73pk3q8p27mustnu53f746pm7l999q@4ax.com:
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 22:46:13 GMT, DTC <no_spam@move_along_folks.foob>
> wrote in <V6iei.1801$iz5.293@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.n et>:
>
>>Kevin Weaver wrote:
>>> Notice how navas did not reply to this ?
>
> Nothing of substance to respond to.
>
>>Notice that Navas did admit that no US carrier was using it.
>
> Not true.
Navas is right- he has admitted that Cingular has a single Extended GSM
tower. Just one. No others. And they don't advertise it. And we are
supposed to believe it because of his pedestrian consumer knowledge base.
Navas is an idiot. If he ever lost internet access, his ability to be a
subject matter expert on anything and everything would dry up in a
heartbeat. No Google, no knowledge.
Scott wrote:
> Navas is right- he has admitted that Cingular has a single Extended GSM
> tower. Just one. No others. And they don't advertise it. And we are
> supposed to believe it because of his pedestrian consumer knowledge base.
He provided two forms of evidence...
1) His own experience.
2) From an engineer friend that said it was possible.
> Navas is an idiot. If he ever lost internet access, his ability to be a
> subject matter expert on anything and everything would dry up in a
> heartbeat. No Google, no knowledge.
I have asked, if not more than once, how many times he cracked open a
Motorola, Nokia, or Lucent cellsite cabinet. How many times he ran a
antenna/coax performance scan. How many times he was retained by a carrier
to do maintenance.
DTC <no_spam@move_along_folks.foob> wrote in
news:VeZei.107$zA4.30@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink .net:
> Scott wrote:
>> Navas is right- he has admitted that Cingular has a single Extended
>> GSM tower. Just one. No others. And they don't advertise it. And
>> we are supposed to believe it because of his pedestrian consumer
>> knowledge base.
>
> He provided two forms of evidence...
> 1) His own experience.
Pedestrian experience that didn't take many physical variables into
consideration.
> 2) From an engineer friend that said it was possible.
Someone else who did not take many physical variables into consideration.
I would expect something like that from a friend of Novice- poorly
researched conclusions.
>
>> Navas is an idiot. If he ever lost internet access, his ability to
>> be a subject matter expert on anything and everything would dry up in
>> a heartbeat. No Google, no knowledge.
>
> I have asked, if not more than once, how many times he cracked open a
> Motorola, Nokia, or Lucent cellsite cabinet. How many times he ran a
> antenna/coax performance scan. How many times he was retained by a
> carrier to do maintenance.
>
> I never got an answer.
>
And that can be added to the long list of questions he has avoided in this
group.
On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:35:43 GMT, DTC <no_spam@move_along_folks.foob>
wrote in <PaCei.2708$W_6.1917@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink. net>:
>John Navas wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 22:46:13 GMT, DTC <no_spam@move_along_folks.foob>
>> wrote in <V6iei.1801$iz5.293@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.n et>:
>>> Notice that Navas did admit that no US carrier was using it.
>>
>> Not true.
>
>Blatantly false. You insisted that Cingular/AT&T supported it off the coast
>of San Fransisco it as you claim you have used it.
I have. What you wrote is self-contradictory.
>>> Notice that it took him several months to discover that Extended GSM does
>>> in fact exist, but in reference to frequency range - not as in extended
>>> range, i.e. mileage.
>>
>> Likewise not true.
>
>Blatantly false. You never mentioned any reference to Extended GSM in the
>context of extended frequencies. Also, this is your first post referring to
>an extended range (distance) GSM.
Likewise not true.
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:50:13 GMT, DTC <no_spam@move_along_folks.foob>
wrote in <VeZei.107$zA4.30@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net >:
>Scott wrote:
>> Navas is right- he has admitted that Cingular has a single Extended GSM
>> tower. Just one. No others. And they don't advertise it. And we are
>> supposed to believe it because of his pedestrian consumer knowledge base.
>
>He provided two forms of evidence...
>1) His own experience.
>2) From an engineer friend that said it was possible.
More than that. "Google is your friend."
>> Navas is an idiot. If he ever lost internet access, his ability to be a
>> subject matter expert on anything and everything would dry up in a
>> heartbeat. No Google, no knowledge.
>
>I have asked, if not more than once, how many times he cracked open a
>Motorola, Nokia, or Lucent cellsite cabinet. How many times he ran a
>antenna/coax performance scan. How many times he was retained by a carrier
>to do maintenance.
Really? Citations please.
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
news:ia4383tk8961e3go1m8hkh3ug91i712kif@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:35:43 GMT, DTC <no_spam@move_along_folks.foob>
> wrote in <PaCei.2708$W_6.1917@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink. net>:
>
>>John Navas wrote:
>>> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 22:46:13 GMT, DTC <no_spam@move_along_folks.foob>
>>> wrote in <V6iei.1801$iz5.293@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.n et>:
>
>>>> Notice that Navas did admit that no US carrier was using it.
>>>
>>> Not true.
>>
>>Blatantly false. You insisted that Cingular/AT&T supported it off the
>>coast
>>of San Fransisco it as you claim you have used it.
>
> I have. What you wrote is self-contradictory.
>
>>>> Notice that it took him several months to discover that Extended GSM
>>>> does
>>>> in fact exist, but in reference to frequency range - not as in extended
>>>> range, i.e. mileage.
>>>
>>> Likewise not true.
>>
>>Blatantly false. You never mentioned any reference to Extended GSM in the
>>context of extended frequencies. Also, this is your first post referring
>>to
>>an extended range (distance) GSM.
>
> Likewise not true.
Citations ?
>
> --
> Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
> John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 11:55:23 -0700, "Kevin Weaver"
<kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
<fpygi.22663$C96.21345@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net> :
>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>news:ia4383tk8961e3go1m8hkh3ug91i712kif@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:35:43 GMT, DTC <no_spam@move_along_folks.foob>
>> wrote in <PaCei.2708$W_6.1917@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink. net>:
>>>Blatantly false. You never mentioned any reference to Extended GSM in the
>>>context of extended frequencies. Also, this is your first post referring
>>>to
>>>an extended range (distance) GSM.
>>
>> Likewise not true.
>
>Citations ?
Asked and answered. "Google is your friend."
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
In article <elmop-10329C.01020408072007@nntp1.usenetserver.com>,
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
> In article <g3_ji.490572$7g3.382052@newsfe14.phx>,
> "Jim Dubya" <jimdubya@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> > What is this "Charter"? Does this newsgroup have a charter?
>
> No, it doesn't.
>
> But just like some people see black helicopters, and believe the moon
> landing was faked, others think they own this newsgroup.
>
> Like the foil-hat crowd, just ignore the newsgroup owners, too.
Furthermore, it is very sad that navas had to post crap like this to try
to gain some attention from overwhelming iphone publicity.
Thanks Elmo and sw for the clarification. Every newsgroup has their nuts
and it appears that this one is no exception, but once you get the trolls,
nuts, and idiots kill-filed then most newsgroups are a really good place.
"sw" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:nospam-5ECB6E.08210008072007@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com ...
> In article <elmop-10329C.01020408072007@nntp1.usenetserver.com>,
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <g3_ji.490572$7g3.382052@newsfe14.phx>,
>> "Jim Dubya" <jimdubya@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>> > What is this "Charter"? Does this newsgroup have a charter?
>>
>> No, it doesn't.
>>
>> But just like some people see black helicopters, and believe the moon
>> landing was faked, others think they own this newsgroup.
>>
>> Like the foil-hat crowd, just ignore the newsgroup owners, too.
>
> Furthermore, it is very sad that navas had to post crap like this to try
> to gain some attention from overwhelming iphone publicity.
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