This newsgroup is for discussion of topics directly related to Cingular
Wireless service, including voice, data (GPRS as well as GSM), and fax.
Non-commercial For Sale and Want To Buy notices for compatible products,
tagged in the subject line with "FS" and "WTB" respectively (without the
quote symbols), are permitted. All articles must be in plain text only,
in the English language, and human-readable.
Inappropriate (banned) articles:
* Off-topic (not directly related to Cingular Wireless service)
* Binaries (except for appended text-encoded digital signatures)
* Spam (including excessive cross-posting)
* Make-money-fast or other chain or fraudulent schemes
* Work-at-home or other scams
* Commercial advertisements, "infomercials," or announcements
* Auction notices (e.g., eBay)
* Forged articles (anonymous articles are allowed)
* Personal insults or repetitive flaming (attacks)
* Employment (help and/or position wanted) notices
When posting the charter to attws, you should change the first line to the
charter to read "This newsgroup is for discussion of topics directly related
to ATTWS..."
Otherwise it doesn't apply to this group.
Jar-Jar
> Wireless service
"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
news:21juj.622511$kj1.68930@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> CHARTER:
>
> This newsgroup is for discussion of topics directly related to Cingular
> Wireless service, including voice, data (GPRS as well as GSM), and fax.
> Non-commercial For Sale and Want To Buy notices for compatible products,
> tagged in the subject line with "FS" and "WTB" respectively (without the
> quote symbols), are permitted. All articles must be in plain text only,
> in the English language, and human-readable.
>
> Inappropriate (banned) articles:
> * Off-topic (not directly related to Cingular Wireless service)
> * Binaries (except for appended text-encoded digital signatures)
> * Spam (including excessive cross-posting)
> * Make-money-fast or other chain or fraudulent schemes
> * Work-at-home or other scams
> * Commercial advertisements, "infomercials," or announcements
> * Auction notices (e.g., eBay)
> * Forged articles (anonymous articles are allowed)
> * Personal insults or repetitive flaming (attacks)
> * Employment (help and/or position wanted) notices
>
> MODERATOR INFO:
>
> The group is unmoderated.
In alt.cellular.attws John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
<invalid charter snipped>
I am going to ask again, politely; please stop post the alt.cellular.cingular
charter in the alt.cellular.attws newsgroup. It doesn't apply here and it is
in appropriate.
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:37:06 -0800, "Jar-Jar Binks" <jarjar@nospam.com>
wrote in <mfkuj.41963$ov5.6205@newsfe15.phx>:
>When posting the charter to attws, you should change the first line to the
>charter to read "This newsgroup is for discussion of topics directly related
>to ATTWS..."
>
>Otherwise it doesn't apply to this group.
It doesn't apply to alt.cellular.attws
It applies to alt.cellular.cingular
--
Best regards,
John Navas <http:/navasgroup.com>
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive,
difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind
boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." --Gene Spafford
On 2/18/08 12:37 PM, in article mfkuj.41963$ov5.6205@newsfe15.phx, "Jar-Jar
Binks" <jarjar@nospam.com> wrote:
> When posting the charter to attws, you should change the first line to the
> charter to read "This newsgroup is for discussion of topics directly related
> to ATTWS..."
>
> Otherwise it doesn't apply to this group.
>
> Jar-Jar
>
Proving that even a Jar-Jar knows more than NavASS...
John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in news:21juj.622511
$kj1.68930@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
> CHARTER:
>
> This newsgroup is for discussion of topics directly related to Cingular
> Wireless service, including voice, data (GPRS as well as GSM), and fax.
> Non-commercial For Sale and Want To Buy notices for compatible products,
> tagged in the subject line with "FS" and "WTB" respectively (without the
> quote symbols), are permitted. All articles must be in plain text only,
> in the English language, and human-readable.
>
> Inappropriate (banned) articles:
> * Off-topic (not directly related to Cingular Wireless service)
> * Binaries (except for appended text-encoded digital signatures)
> * Spam (including excessive cross-posting)
> * Make-money-fast or other chain or fraudulent schemes
> * Work-at-home or other scams
> * Commercial advertisements, "infomercials," or announcements
> * Auction notices (e.g., eBay)
> * Forged articles (anonymous articles are allowed)
> * Personal insults or repetitive flaming (attacks)
> * Employment (help and/or position wanted) notices
>
> MODERATOR INFO:
>
> The group is unmoderated.
>
John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:21juj.622511$kj1.68930@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
> CHARTER:
>
So much for civility. You had an opportunity to show yours and you opted
not to.
I would suggest that you double check your "facts" before posting anytime
soon. I have a feeling that over the next couple fo weeks, you are going
to be exposed as the complete idiot that you truly are.
In article <Xns9A48A0EEACC2Enoonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in news:21juj.622511
> $kj1.68930@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>
> > CHARTER:
> >
> > This newsgroup is for discussion of topics directly related to Cingular
> > Wireless service, including voice, data (GPRS as well as GSM), and fax.
> > Non-commercial For Sale and Want To Buy notices for compatible products,
> > tagged in the subject line with "FS" and "WTB" respectively (without the
> > quote symbols), are permitted. All articles must be in plain text only,
> > in the English language, and human-readable.
> >
> > Inappropriate (banned) articles:
> > * Off-topic (not directly related to Cingular Wireless service)
> > * Binaries (except for appended text-encoded digital signatures)
> > * Spam (including excessive cross-posting)
> > * Make-money-fast or other chain or fraudulent schemes
> > * Work-at-home or other scams
> > * Commercial advertisements, "infomercials," or announcements
> > * Auction notices (e.g., eBay)
> > * Forged articles (anonymous articles are allowed)
> > * Personal insults or repetitive flaming (attacks)
> > * Employment (help and/or position wanted) notices
> >
> > MODERATOR INFO:
> >
> > The group is unmoderated.
> >
>
> Who made you king?
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:27:53 -0600, The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote in
<Xns9A48B1A88BA10bob@216.196.97.136>:
>John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> amazed us all with the following in
>news:21juj.622511$kj1.68930@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>
>> CHARTER:
>
>So much for civility. You had an opportunity to show yours and you opted
>not to.
On the contrary. My offer was spurned from the getgo. I nonetheless
was thinking seriously of not posting today, but a new spate of insults
made me realize that would be at best pointless, if not
counterproductive.
>I would suggest that you double check your "facts" before posting anytime
>soon.
I always do.
>I have a feeling that over the next couple fo weeks, you are going
>to be exposed as the complete idiot that you truly are.
Is that a threat? Knock yourself out.
--
Best regards,
John Navas <http:/navasgroup.com>
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive,
difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind
boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." --Gene Spafford
John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> amazed us all with the following
in news:3pjkr3dovrjg9rr3s6qhcfr5jaca1fdtuk@4ax.com:
> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:27:53 -0600, The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote in
> <Xns9A48B1A88BA10bob@216.196.97.136>:
>
>>John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> amazed us all with the
>>following in
>>news:21juj.622511$kj1.68930@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>>
>>> CHARTER:
>>
>>So much for civility. You had an opportunity to show yours and you
>>opted not to.
>
> On the contrary. My offer was spurned from the getgo. I nonetheless
> was thinking seriously of not posting today, but a new spate of
> insults made me realize that would be at best pointless, if not
> counterproductive.
So you are admitting that the posting of the charter was purely out of
spite. How mature.
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:06:48 -0600, The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote in
<Xns9A48D6C5A78FDbob@216.196.97.136>:
>John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> amazed us all with the following
>in news:3pjkr3dovrjg9rr3s6qhcfr5jaca1fdtuk@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:27:53 -0600, The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote in
>> <Xns9A48B1A88BA10bob@216.196.97.136>:
>>
>>>John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> amazed us all with the
>>>following in
>>>news:21juj.622511$kj1.68930@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>>>
>>>> CHARTER:
>>>
>>>So much for civility. You had an opportunity to show yours and you
>>>opted not to.
>>
>> On the contrary. My offer was spurned from the getgo. I nonetheless
>> was thinking seriously of not posting today, but a new spate of
>> insults made me realize that would be at best pointless, if not
>> counterproductive.
>
>So you are admitting that the posting of the charter was purely out of
>spite. How mature.
Nothing of the sort. My offer made it clear that while there was
nothing inappropriate about the posting, I was willing to do what
I could if it would result in as little as a 50% reduction in
incivility. What's immature and purely out of spite are the ongoing
personal attacks and inappropriate meta-discussions, your own conduct
being a notable case in point:
I don't expect you to get it, John. We're dealing with a market
sector that you don't have any experience in, and factors of
corporate economics that you've never had to consider before.
... John can continue to obsess ...
You need to understand that you're not talking to John Navas here.
You may consider yourself an expert on everything as John does, but
just like John, your ego drives your posts.
Sorry, John. This coming from you comes across as very insincere.
In other words, don't bash that which you are so famous for.
Hypocrisy, thy name is The Bob.
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR AT&T/CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/AT&T_Wireless_FAQ>
John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> amazed us all with the following
in news:jslkr31bj53dge1ogjngfsa9ir4t8v3qnk@4ax.com:
> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:06:48 -0600, The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote in
> <Xns9A48D6C5A78FDbob@216.196.97.136>:
>
>>John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> amazed us all with the
following
>>in news:3pjkr3dovrjg9rr3s6qhcfr5jaca1fdtuk@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:27:53 -0600, The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote
in
>>> <Xns9A48B1A88BA10bob@216.196.97.136>:
>>>
>>>>John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> amazed us all with the
>>>>following in
>>>>news:21juj.622511$kj1.68930@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>>>>
>>>>> CHARTER:
>>>>
>>>>So much for civility. You had an opportunity to show yours and you
>>>>opted not to.
>>>
>>> On the contrary. My offer was spurned from the getgo. I
nonetheless
>>> was thinking seriously of not posting today, but a new spate of
>>> insults made me realize that would be at best pointless, if not
>>> counterproductive.
>>
>>So you are admitting that the posting of the charter was purely out of
>>spite. How mature.
>
> Nothing of the sort. My offer made it clear that while there was
> nothing inappropriate about the posting, I was willing to do what
> I could if it would result in as little as a 50% reduction in
> incivility.
So you were blackmailing the group in order to get compliance to your
own standards. Rather pompous, especially when your own style of
childish posting is brought into the equation.
> What's immature and purely out of spite are the ongoing
> personal attacks and inappropriate meta-discussions, your own conduct
> being a notable case in point:
My conduct is not meant to be notable. Unlike you, I'm not searching
for accpetance and idolatry on usenet.
>
> I don't expect you to get it, John. We're dealing with a market
> sector that you don't have any experience in, and factors of
> corporate economics that you've never had to consider before.
>
> ... John can continue to obsess ...
>
> You need to understand that you're not talking to John Navas here.
> You may consider yourself an expert on everything as John does, but
> just like John, your ego drives your posts.
>
> Sorry, John. This coming from you comes across as very insincere.
>
> In other words, don't bash that which you are so famous for.
Ah, but unlike you, I don't pin any claims to fame on any of my postings
to this group.
>
> Hypocrisy, thy name is The Bob.
>
Sorry, John- I never agreed to a thing. I simply pointed out how
unwilling you were to play by your own rules.
Navas is a real nutter and from this message, it is apparent that he is also
a troll.
Jar-Jar
"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
news:3pjkr3dovrjg9rr3s6qhcfr5jaca1fdtuk@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:27:53 -0600, The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote in
> <Xns9A48B1A88BA10bob@216.196.97.136>:
>
>>John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> amazed us all with the following
>>in
>>news:21juj.622511$kj1.68930@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>>
>>> CHARTER:
>>
>>So much for civility. You had an opportunity to show yours and you opted
>>not to.
>
> On the contrary. My offer was spurned from the getgo. I nonetheless
> was thinking seriously of not posting today, but a new spate of insults
> made me realize that would be at best pointless, if not
> counterproductive.
>
>>I would suggest that you double check your "facts" before posting anytime
>>soon.
>
> I always do.
>
>>I have a feeling that over the next couple fo weeks, you are going
>>to be exposed as the complete idiot that you truly are.
>
> Is that a threat? Knock yourself out.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> John Navas <http:/navasgroup.com>
>
> "Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive,
> difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind
> boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." --Gene Spafford
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:31:16 -0600, The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote in
<Xns9A48DAEBAB837bob@216.196.97.136>:
>John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> amazed us all with the following
>in news:jslkr31bj53dge1ogjngfsa9ir4t8v3qnk@4ax.com:
>> Nothing of the sort. My offer made it clear that while there was
>> nothing inappropriate about the posting, I was willing to do what
>> I could if it would result in as little as a 50% reduction in
>> incivility.
>
>So you were blackmailing the group in order to get compliance to your
>own standards. Rather pompous, especially when your own style of
>childish posting is brought into the equation.
Nothing of the sort.
>> What's immature and purely out of spite are the ongoing
>> personal attacks and inappropriate meta-discussions, your own conduct
>> being a notable case in point:
>
>My conduct is not meant to be notable. Unlike you, I'm not searching
>for accpetance and idolatry on usenet.
Another insult. Why am I not surprised.
>> I don't expect you to get it, John. We're dealing with a market
>> sector that you don't have any experience in, and factors of
>> corporate economics that you've never had to consider before.
>>
>> ... John can continue to obsess ...
>>
>> You need to understand that you're not talking to John Navas here.
>> You may consider yourself an expert on everything as John does, but
>> just like John, your ego drives your posts.
>>
>> Sorry, John. This coming from you comes across as very insincere.
>>
>> In other words, don't bash that which you are so famous for.
>
>Ah, but unlike you, I don't pin any claims to fame on any of my postings
>to this group.
Another insult. Why am I not surprised.
>> Hypocrisy, thy name is The Bob.
>
>Sorry, John- I never agreed to a thing. I simply pointed out how
>unwilling you were to play by your own rules.
Nothing of the sort.
I'm not going to waste any more time on this. You can have the last
word, and rant on without me.
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR AT&T/CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/AT&T_Wireless_FAQ>
In article <r7ljr3pik60i8al84oj7ntntobcf3e83kh@4ax.com>,
John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:37:06 -0800, "Jar-Jar Binks" <jarjar@nospam.com>
> wrote in <mfkuj.41963$ov5.6205@newsfe15.phx>:
>
> >When posting the charter to attws, you should change the first line to the
> >charter to read "This newsgroup is for discussion of topics directly related
> >to ATTWS..."
> >
> >Otherwise it doesn't apply to this group.
>
> It doesn't apply to alt.cellular.attws
> It applies to alt.cellular.cingular
Hey u navas the fucking anus lover...
Why don't you apply some maxi pads to your mouth and your stinky brown
eye?
"Jar-Jar Binks" <jarjar@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:Situj.20850$n42.19764@newsfe08.phx...
> Navas is a real nutter and from this message, it is apparent that he is
> also a troll.
>
>
> Jar-Jar
>
>
>
> "John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
> news:3pjkr3dovrjg9rr3s6qhcfr5jaca1fdtuk@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:27:53 -0600, The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote in
>> <Xns9A48B1A88BA10bob@216.196.97.136>:
>>
>>>John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> amazed us all with the following
>>>in
>>>news:21juj.622511$kj1.68930@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>>>
>>>> CHARTER:
>>>
>>>So much for civility. You had an opportunity to show yours and you opted
>>>not to.
>>
>> On the contrary. My offer was spurned from the getgo. I nonetheless
>> was thinking seriously of not posting today, but a new spate of insults
>> made me realize that would be at best pointless, if not
>> counterproductive.
>>
>>>I would suggest that you double check your "facts" before posting anytime
>>>soon.
>>
>> I always do.
>>
>>>I have a feeling that over the next couple fo weeks, you are going
>>>to be exposed as the complete idiot that you truly are.
>>
>> Is that a threat? Knock yourself out.
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> John Navas <http:/navasgroup.com>
>>
>> "Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive,
>> difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind
>> boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." --Gene Spafford
>
>
In alt.cellular.attws Jar-Jar Binks <jarjar@nospam.com> wrote:
> When posting the charter to attws, you should change the first line to the
> charter to read "This newsgroup is for discussion of topics directly related
> to ATTWS..."
>
> Otherwise it doesn't apply to this group.
>
It still doesn't apply to this group. There is no charter for this group in
spite of the fact that novice wants to apply the cingular charter here as if
he has unilateral rulership over this domain.
--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
In the land of the dark the Ship of the Sun is driven by the Grateful Dead.
-- Egyptian Book of the Dead
In alt.cellular.attws John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:37:06 -0800, "Jar-Jar Binks" <jarjar@nospam.com>
> wrote in <mfkuj.41963$ov5.6205@newsfe15.phx>:
>
>>When posting the charter to attws, you should change the first line to the
>>charter to read "This newsgroup is for discussion of topics directly related
>>to ATTWS..."
>>
>>Otherwise it doesn't apply to this group.
>
> It doesn't apply to alt.cellular.attws
> It applies to alt.cellular.cingular
>
EXACTLY YOU IDIOT! So, why do you keep posting it in alt.cellular.attws? You
said it yourself for God's sake. I believe you do it to be an annoyance and
for no other reason. That make you a TROLL.
--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
In the land of the dark the Ship of the Sun is driven by the Grateful Dead.
-- Egyptian Book of the Dead
In alt.cellular.attws John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
> On the contrary. My offer was spurned from the getgo. I nonetheless
> was thinking seriously of not posting today, but a new spate of insults
> made me realize that would be at best pointless, if not
> counterproductive.
>
So you post it here simply out of spite. You are trolling at this point and
it is grounds to send a complaint to your NSP (not like I expect them to do
anything abou it).
--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
In the land of the dark the Ship of the Sun is driven by the Grateful Dead.
-- Egyptian Book of the Dead
Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> In alt.cellular.attws Jar-Jar Binks <jarjar@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>When posting the charter to attws, you should change the first line to the
>>charter to read "This newsgroup is for discussion of topics directly related
>>to ATTWS..."
>>
>>Otherwise it doesn't apply to this group.
>>
>
>
> It still doesn't apply to this group. There is no charter for this group in
> spite of the fact that novice wants to apply the cingular charter here as if
> he has unilateral rulership over this domain.
<and replace "cingular" with others he repeatedly tries to commandeer>
On 19 Feb 2008 01:14:46 -0600, t@toddh.net (Todd H.) wrote in
<84y79hto2h.fsf@ripco.com>:
>oh well....
>
>Let the games begin I suppose. John, enjoy the shitstorm.
An opportunity has been lost, but nothing has changed. Appeasement
never works -- it's usually counterproductive. The games begun long ago
when the trolls appeared, and will probably continue until these
newsgroups totally atrophy away.
--
Best regards,
John Navas <http:/navasgroup.com>
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive,
difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind
boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." --Gene Spafford
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