Cingular to change name

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <459e30a5$0$68960$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Remember all those promises of multiple monthly credits to your phone
>> bill if you agreed to switch to AT&T LD. The credits usually ended up to
>> be far less than the telemarketer promised, but of course since you had
>> no written agreement you were screwed.
>
> hehehehehe Many years ago I got two simultaneous offers--one per phone
> line--from AT&T. These were checks for $100; according to the very fine
> print on the back, my cashing the check was authorization for AT&T to
> switch me to their long distance service.
>
> I happily did so, knowing full well I had a long-standing PIC freeze on
> each line.

Well I did the same thing (with a $50 check), but I never got enough
back that way to compensate for what an earlier telephone offer
promised. They had offered six months of $30 per month credits, which
turned into, IIRC, six $15 credits. A coworker got the same offer and
was similarly screwed by AT&T.

No one ever called me to demand that I actually switch by releasing the
freeze, after I cashed the check, but IIRC, I got a letter explaining
that I needed to release the freeze in order to change to AT&T.

It's amazing to me the prices some people are still paying for long
distance, including intra-LATA. With something like TalkLoop, you pay
only 2¢ per minute, and it's very convenient with their no-PIN dialing,
and the ability to store frequently called numbers in their system. It's
a lot cheaper even for calls within the Bay Area, since AT&T charges 6¢
per minute for a call that's only going about 35 miles away. The only
time I really went crazy was when I needed to send a FAX to a number
that was not local. I ended up signing up for Faxaway, which charges $1
per month and about 10¢ for every five pages sent (free incoming).

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <459e812e$0$68949$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>> It's amazing to me the prices some people are still paying for long
>> distance, including intra-LATA. With something like TalkLoop, you pay
>> only 2¢ per minute, and it's very convenient with their no-PIN dialing,
>> and the ability to store frequently called numbers in their system.
>
> Or pick any VOIP provider, and do it all for a single, simple price.
>
> I chose Sunrocket at $200 for two years, all up all in.

The problem is that the single, simple price, is rarely a bargain,
unless you are dropping your landline anyway.

The Sunrocket web site shows $199 per year. The $199 for two years was a
promotion for 1000 customers, that's long gone.

I could never use $200 worth of long distance, at 2¢ per minute, in one
year, and I have to keep my landline anyway since cable would be far
more expensive than DSL.

I think that most of the people I know are in the same boat, since they
use their cell phone for most long distance calls either, off-peak, or
with free mobile to mobile. Even using the $10 per six month minimum
(500 minutes) on Talkloop or Onesuite is tough. The big use of Talkloop
for some people I know is internationally, and their rates are a lot
lower than Sunrocket. The big use of Talkloop for me is intra-LATA calls
in the Bay Area during peak hours when I don't want to use up my peak
cell minutes.

In article <459e30a5$0$68960$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> SinghaLvr wrote:
>
> > I think many customers have nostalgic feelings toward AT&T.
>
> Or at least that's what the AT&T execs hope.
>
> Consumers have very negative feelings toward AT&T's long distance
> services, which engaged in very deceptive marketing for many years.
> Remember all those promises of multiple monthly credits to your phone
> bill if you agreed to switch to AT&T LD. The credits usually ended up to
> be far less than the telemarketer promised, but of course since you had
> no written agreement you were screwed.
>
> Personally, I had only good experiences with AT&T Wireless, but I left
> prior to their decline. If someone has been living in a cave, and
> doesn't realize that the new AT&T Wireless is simply Cingular, then they
> may mistakenly switch to it, expecting more than they're going to get.

ATT wireless was decent. The Cingular takeover forced me to give up the
best phone I ever had - a Startac for a newer crappier phone. Held on to
my ATT account as long as I could, but I started getting treated like
the bastard stepchild by billing and customer service.

Happy with my Treo, but the Cingualr service has been less than stellar.

Even worse for Treo buyers was all the firmware they built in like
Express mail and MediaNet that doesn't work on a Treo. Spent a lot of
time with customer support trying to get that worked out. Only the Treo
support knew of the incompatibility.
Great minds at work here.

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It is alleged that Kurt claimed:

> Even worse for Treo buyers was all the firmware they built in like
> Express mail and MediaNet that doesn't work on a Treo. Spent a lot of

MediaNet is just the name of the data service, it's not anything extra
loaded into the Treo. Besides, stuff like XPress Mail is in ROM, where
it doesn't take up any extra space. The Treo 650 also has Versamail,
the Palm-standard email client.

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In article <rbvtp2hi9u75mfa6jmucdmjsujpr4fqisc@gordol.org>,
Jeffrey Kaplan <nomail@gordol.org> wrote:

> It is alleged that Kurt claimed:
>
> > Even worse for Treo buyers was all the firmware they built in like
> > Express mail and MediaNet that doesn't work on a Treo. Spent a lot of
>
> MediaNet is just the name of the data service, it's not anything extra
> loaded into the Treo. Besides, stuff like XPress Mail is in ROM, where
> it doesn't take up any extra space. The Treo 650 also has Versamail,
> the Palm-standard email client.

Yes, but the fact that that they hard coded it into the Treo menu is
unexcusible.
VersaMail is the correct default mail program, but who would know trying
to use their Cingular Treo out of the box when VersaMail is the top icon?

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In article <labolide-03CB87.18094605012007@news.giganews.com>,
Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote:

> In article <rbvtp2hi9u75mfa6jmucdmjsujpr4fqisc@gordol.org>,
> Jeffrey Kaplan <nomail@gordol.org> wrote:
>
> > It is alleged that Kurt claimed:
> >
> > > Even worse for Treo buyers was all the firmware they built in like
> > > Express mail and MediaNet that doesn't work on a Treo. Spent a lot of
> >
> > MediaNet is just the name of the data service, it's not anything extra
> > loaded into the Treo. Besides, stuff like XPress Mail is in ROM, where
> > it doesn't take up any extra space. The Treo 650 also has Versamail,
> > the Palm-standard email client.
>
> Yes, but the fact that that they hard coded it into the Treo menu is
> unexcusible.
> VersaMail is the correct default mail program, but who would know trying
> to use their Cingular Treo out of the box when VersaMail is the top icon?

I meant:
VersaMail is the correct default mail program, but who would know trying
to use their Cingular Treo out of the box when XpressMail is the top
icon?

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In article <0001HW.C1C4E38401BFDED7F0203648@news.giganews.com >,
SinghaLvr <singhalvr@charter.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 11:16:43 -0500, Sherry wrote
> (in article <Xns98AF543962047TansyRagwortNetscape@216.196.97.1 42>):
>
> > Cingluar is rated 3rd in our area by Consumer Reports. We thought
> > about going with T-Mobile (#1 in our area)
>
> My wife uses t-mobile. They are absolutely fantastic in the customer service
> area. We've never had a problem on any front with them.
>
> The only drawback is that they aren't exactly on the bleeding edge of
> technology.

Yes, but looking around these days, who is?

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SinghaLvr wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 11:47:41 -0500, SMS wrote
> (in article <459e812e$0$68949$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>):
>
>> It's amazing to me the prices some people are still paying for long
>> distance, including intra-LATA. With something like TalkLoop, you pay
>> only 2¢ per minute, and it's very convenient with their no-PIN dialing,
>> and the ability to store frequently called numbers in their system. It's
>> a lot cheaper even for calls within the Bay Area, since AT&T charges 6¢
>> per minute for a call that's only going about 35 miles away. The only
>> time I really went crazy was when I needed to send a FAX to a number
>> that was not local. I ended up signing up for Faxaway, which charges $1
>> per month and about 10¢ for every five pages sent (free incoming).
>
> ... or just use your cell phone and not pay long distance.

It's fine if you have a plan with a lot of minutes, but it's often
cheaper to go with a lower minute plan and not use your peak minutes up
for non-mobile calls. I.e., I have a Verizon plan where I pay $28 per
month for 300 minutes.

"Kurt" <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in message
news:labolide-2CF9A8.08565006012007@news.giganews.com...
> In article <0001HW.C1C4E38401BFDED7F0203648@news.giganews.com >,
> SinghaLvr <singhalvr@charter.net> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 11:16:43 -0500, Sherry wrote
>> (in article <Xns98AF543962047TansyRagwortNetscape@216.196.97.1 42>):
>>
>> > Cingluar is rated 3rd in our area by Consumer Reports. We thought
>> > about going with T-Mobile (#1 in our area)
>>
>> My wife uses t-mobile. They are absolutely fantastic in the customer
>> service
>> area. We've never had a problem on any front with them.
>>
>> The only drawback is that they aren't exactly on the bleeding edge of
>> technology.
>
> Yes, but looking around these days, who is?

I consider my 8525 to raise the bar for technology.

My only complaints are:
Pocket Media Player, will not play cda files that play on WinXP Media
Player.
The included earbuds were apparently assembled by a 6 year old on his first
day at work in China; one strand is 6" long, the other is 20" long. It's
like being a Labrador Retriever in a perpetual hard turn with the connecting
wires hanging to one side.
There is some flexibility in re-assigning keys, but I don't think PTT is one
of them. PTT is located under the scroll bar and the 'Windows' button, so it
constantly pops up due to my clumsiness.

It is alleged that Thurman claimed:

> My only complaints are:
> Pocket Media Player, will not play cda files that play on WinXP Media
> Player.

cda files are "CD Audio", they exist on CDs only. Rip/convert to mp3
or wma.

> The included earbuds were apparently assembled by a 6 year old on his first
> day at work in China; one strand is 6" long, the other is 20" long. It's

That would be because they're designed to hang down on one side only.
Put the shorter one in your ear, then loop the other one around the
back of your neck to your other ear.

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It is alleged that Kurt claimed:

> > MediaNet is just the name of the data service, it's not anything extra
> > loaded into the Treo. Besides, stuff like XPress Mail is in ROM, where
> > it doesn't take up any extra space. The Treo 650 also has Versamail,
> > the Palm-standard email client.
>
> Yes, but the fact that that they hard coded it into the Treo menu is
> unexcusible.

That's like complaining that your broadband provider "hard coded" their
network data into your computer's networking settings.

MediaNet is the name of the data service. The settings under
"MediaNet" are the settings needed to access the service. I fail to
see the problem.

> VersaMail is the correct default mail program, but who would know trying
> to use their Cingular Treo out of the box when VersaMail is the top icon?

Um, because it's "the top icon"?

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In article <2t10q25ug54f7jm7vdd9nn1vg1blseomc5@gordol.org>,
Jeffrey Kaplan <nomail@gordol.org> wrote:

> It is alleged that Kurt claimed:
>
> > > MediaNet is just the name of the data service, it's not anything extra
> > > loaded into the Treo. Besides, stuff like XPress Mail is in ROM, where
> > > it doesn't take up any extra space. The Treo 650 also has Versamail,
> > > the Palm-standard email client.
> >
> > Yes, but the fact that that they hard coded it into the Treo menu is
> > unexcusible.
>
> That's like complaining that your broadband provider "hard coded" their
> network data into your computer's networking settings.

Do you actually know anything about the Treo?
>
> MediaNet is the name of the data service. The settings under
> "MediaNet" are the settings needed to access the service. I fail to
> see the problem.
>
Medianet is incompatible with the Treo.

> > VersaMail is the correct default mail program, but who would know trying
> > to use their Cingular Treo out of the box when VersaMail is the top icon?
>
> Um, because it's "the top icon"?

Because you have two mail programs installed by Cingular, XpressMail is
incompatible with Treo.

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It is alleged that Kurt claimed:

> > That's like complaining that your broadband provider "hard coded" their
> > network data into your computer's networking settings.
>
> Do you actually know anything about the Treo?

Does the fact that I used a Treo 650 for over a year and a half and
upgraded to a 680 about three weeks ago count? I'm currently active on
the Treo list at Yahoo, as well as several program-specific lists. And
I've been using Palms since the IIIx was current. I may not be an
ubergeek with it, but I think I know what I'm talking about.

> > MediaNet is the name of the data service. The settings under
> > "MediaNet" are the settings needed to access the service. I fail to
> > see the problem.
> >
> Medianet is incompatible with the Treo.

Just because Cingular wants to sell you their unlimited PDA Connect for
another $40/month doesn't mean that MediaNet doesn't work. It works
just fine for me. It's just the name of a data service.

> Because you have two mail programs installed by Cingular, XpressMail is
> incompatible with Treo.

I think I used XPressMail once, way back in June of '05 when I got my
first Treo. I thought it sucked. It worked, but it sucked. Versamail,
as maligned as it is by a lot of people, is a lot better than
XpressMail. If it were incompatible with the Treo, it wouldn't even
load and run.

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"Jeffrey Kaplan" <nomail@gordol.org> wrote in message
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> It is alleged that Thurman claimed:
>
>> My only complaints are:
>> Pocket Media Player, will not play cda files that play on WinXP Media
>> Player.
>
> cda files are "CD Audio", they exist on CDs only. Rip/convert to mp3
> or wma.
>
>> The included earbuds were apparently assembled by a 6 year old on his
>> first
>> day at work in China; one strand is 6" long, the other is 20" long. It's
>
> That would be because they're designed to hang down on one side only.
> Put the shorter one in your ear, then loop the other one around the
> back of your neck to your other ear.

LOL!

I thought you were going to tell me to wrap the 20" cord around my neck and
jump!

Thanks for the tips.

In article <sh90q29j0iq5s71rppdecg4plt7fs5hl2r@gordol.org>,
Jeffrey Kaplan <nomail@gordol.org> wrote:

> It is alleged that Kurt claimed:
>
> > > That's like complaining that your broadband provider "hard coded" their
> > > network data into your computer's networking settings.
> >
> > Do you actually know anything about the Treo?
>
> Does the fact that I used a Treo 650 for over a year and a half and
> upgraded to a 680 about three weeks ago count? I'm currently active on
> the Treo list at Yahoo, as well as several program-specific lists. And
> I've been using Palms since the IIIx was current. I may not be an
> ubergeek with it, but I think I know what I'm talking about.

Good, read my comments further.
BTW- why the upgrade? 680, from all the reviews, has shortcomings like
diminished battery life. Blazer's apparently a little quicker, but I
don't see the big deal - especially since you aren't on a data plan.
>
> > > MediaNet is the name of the data service. The settings under
> > > "MediaNet" are the settings needed to access the service. I fail to
> > > see the problem.
> > >
> > Medianet is incompatible with the Treo.
>
> Just because Cingular wants to sell you their unlimited PDA Connect for
> another $40/month doesn't mean that MediaNet doesn't work. It works
> just fine for me. It's just the name of a data service.

Had my Treo for almost 2 years. Intially tried to set up MediaNet. This
was before I had any data plan. Wouldn't work. Was told from the get-go
that MediaNet would not work with Treo. They, on many occasions, have
told me that this is for cell phones only, not Treo. Spent a lot of time
with Cingular with this.
If you actually use it on your 650/680 - proof how screwed up Cingular
is with Treo support.
>
> > Because you have two mail programs installed by Cingular, XpressMail is
> > incompatible with Treo.
>
> I think I used XPressMail once, way back in June of '05 when I got my
> first Treo. I thought it sucked. It worked, but it sucked. Versamail,
> as maligned as it is by a lot of people, is a lot better than
> XpressMail. If it were incompatible with the Treo, it wouldn't even
> load and run.

Xpressmail would not work, and Cingular support said it was
compatibility issues with Treo.

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It is alleged that Kurt claimed:

> Good, read my comments further.

Ok...

> BTW- why the upgrade? 680, from all the reviews, has shortcomings like
> diminished battery life. Blazer's apparently a little quicker, but I
> don't see the big deal - especially since you aren't on a data plan.

The 650 has ~24MB of on-board storage and the 680 has 69MB. The 650
has 8MB of dbcache and the 680 has 24M. I actually mostly like the new
phone app on the 680. The 680 not only has better audio quality in the
phone, it also gets better reception despite the lack of an external
antenna (real-world testing, not just product blurbs). And a few other
tweaks here and there, like the card slots no longer being exposed.

Yes, the battery life is shorter, it is a smaller battery. But the
"battery drain" issue mostly goes away within a week if you do some
battery conditioning and leave BT and the data radios off except when
needed. I'm now able to go at least a day and a half without draining
the battery, and since I'm rarely more than an hour from a charger (one
bedside, one deskside, and one in my car), I'm OK.

> > Just because Cingular wants to sell you their unlimited PDA Connect for
> > another $40/month doesn't mean that MediaNet doesn't work. It works
> > just fine for me. It's just the name of a data service.
>
> Had my Treo for almost 2 years. Intially tried to set up MediaNet. This
> was before I had any data plan. Wouldn't work. Was told from the get-go
> that MediaNet would not work with Treo. They, on many occasions, have
> told me that this is for cell phones only, not Treo. Spent a lot of time
> with Cingular with this.
> If you actually use it on your 650/680 - proof how screwed up Cingular
> is with Treo support.

When I got the 650 (June, '05) they tried to sell me a data plan. I
think my top usage of data at that time was 50kB over a nine month
period, so I declined the data plan. They +said+ that unless I got a
data plan, I would not be able to use a data connection.

A week later, I went to a different Cingular outlet and asked about it,
without specifying what device I was using, and I was told "no
problem", it would just be at the a la carte pricing of $0.01/kB, on
the default MediaNet connection, if I wanted a higher-speed connection,
I'd have to get a data plan for the higher speed.

And... it works. The connection details were already programmed in,
all I had to do was tell a data app to go online. Be it Blazer/Treo
Web, Opera Mini, DirectoryAssistant, or whatever.

When I upgraded to the 680 (unlocked, I figured I'd have to enter my
call and network settings manually), I went to Call Preferences to
enter the voicemail number and the Treo said it would query for this
information for me, and it did. It also apparently got the data
network settings either OTA at the same time or off of my SIM because
those settings were there too, when I next went to the Network prefs
panel.

Now, my data usage is higher, but it's still less than the "cheaper to
get a plan" threshold so I still use it a la carte.

> Xpressmail would not work, and Cingular support said it was
> compatibility issues with Treo.

As I said before, I used it once, nearly two years ago now, and didn't
like it. Maybe I just didn't like it, maybe it didn't work right.
Upshot is that XPressMail should work since it's an app for the Palm,
but has a crappy design. Since my 680 is an unlocked model, I don't
even have it anymore, and my 650 has been mailed to Trade Ups for a
rebate so I can't check back on the old device either.

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Does anyone know when Cingular will change to at & t? Will the logo on
our Cingular phones actually change to the at & t logo? I read that at
& t will change to all lower case letters.

NB


On Dec 29 2006, 6:58 pm, Jackzwick <jackzw...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> AT&T (really the old SBC) has gotten approval to swallow up Bell South.
>
> http://news.monstersandcritics.com/b...e_1238026.php/...
> _wins_OK_for_$85B_BellSouth_deal
>
> as part of that they say the Cingular name will go away,
> to be replaced by AT&T

It will change to att-stinkular. :-)

"Ms. Treo" <nitabandy@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Does anyone know when Cingular will change to at & t? Will the logo on
> our Cingular phones actually change to the at & t logo? I read that at
> & t will change to all lower case letters.
>
> NB

In article <mqr4q29e1nerfr026u0uq9su1abq7lk8d0@gordol.org>,
Jeffrey Kaplan <nomail@gordol.org> wrote:

> It is alleged that Kurt claimed:
>
> > Good, read my comments further.
>
> Ok...
>
> > BTW- why the upgrade? 680, from all the reviews, has shortcomings like
> > diminished battery life. Blazer's apparently a little quicker, but I
> > don't see the big deal - especially since you aren't on a data plan.
>
> The 650 has ~24MB of on-board storage and the 680 has 69MB. The 650
> has 8MB of dbcache and the 680 has 24M. I actually mostly like the new
> phone app on the 680. The 680 not only has better audio quality in the
> phone, it also gets better reception despite the lack of an external
> antenna (real-world testing, not just product blurbs). And a few other
> tweaks here and there, like the card slots no longer being exposed.
>
> Yes, the battery life is shorter, it is a smaller battery. But the
> "battery drain" issue mostly goes away within a week if you do some
> battery conditioning and leave BT and the data radios off except when
> needed. I'm now able to go at least a day and a half without draining
> the battery, and since I'm rarely more than an hour from a charger (one
> bedside, one deskside, and one in my car), I'm OK.
>
> > > Just because Cingular wants to sell you their unlimited PDA Connect for
> > > another $40/month doesn't mean that MediaNet doesn't work. It works
> > > just fine for me. It's just the name of a data service.
> >
> > Had my Treo for almost 2 years. Intially tried to set up MediaNet. This
> > was before I had any data plan. Wouldn't work. Was told from the get-go
> > that MediaNet would not work with Treo. They, on many occasions, have
> > told me that this is for cell phones only, not Treo. Spent a lot of time
> > with Cingular with this.
> > If you actually use it on your 650/680 - proof how screwed up Cingular
> > is with Treo support.
>
> When I got the 650 (June, '05) they tried to sell me a data plan. I
> think my top usage of data at that time was 50kB over a nine month
> period, so I declined the data plan. They +said+ that unless I got a
> data plan, I would not be able to use a data connection.
>
> A week later, I went to a different Cingular outlet and asked about it,
> without specifying what device I was using, and I was told "no
> problem", it would just be at the a la carte pricing of $0.01/kB, on
> the default MediaNet connection, if I wanted a higher-speed connection,
> I'd have to get a data plan for the higher speed.
>
> And... it works. The connection details were already programmed in,
> all I had to do was tell a data app to go online. Be it Blazer/Treo
> Web, Opera Mini, DirectoryAssistant, or whatever.
>
> When I upgraded to the 680 (unlocked, I figured I'd have to enter my
> call and network settings manually), I went to Call Preferences to
> enter the voicemail number and the Treo said it would query for this
> information for me, and it did. It also apparently got the data
> network settings either OTA at the same time or off of my SIM because
> those settings were there too, when I next went to the Network prefs
> panel.
>
> Now, my data usage is higher, but it's still less than the "cheaper to
> get a plan" threshold so I still use it a la carte.
>
> > Xpressmail would not work, and Cingular support said it was
> > compatibility issues with Treo.
>
> As I said before, I used it once, nearly two years ago now, and didn't
> like it. Maybe I just didn't like it, maybe it didn't work right.
> Upshot is that XPressMail should work since it's an app for the Palm,
> but has a crappy design. Since my 680 is an unlocked model, I don't
> even have it anymore, and my 650 has been mailed to Trade Ups for a
> rebate so I can't check back on the old device either.

Thanks for your experience. I have been doing the $20 5 MB data plan.
How much do you end up spending with Medianet. May get mine switched
over. Aren't they doing unlimited Medianet for $16?

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It is alleged that Kurt claimed:

> > Now, my data usage is higher, but it's still less than the "cheaper to
> > get a plan" threshold so I still use it a la carte.
> Thanks for your experience. I have been doing the $20 5 MB data plan.
> How much do you end up spending with Medianet. May get mine switched

I'm currently averaging less than $10/month for less than 1MB a la
carte. My threshold for getting a data plan is two consecutive months
of $15 (1.5MB ) or more.

Media Basic at $10/month is the same rate per kB as a la carte, but
Media Works is $15 for 5MB plus 1 cent per kB over.

Messaging units are not a factor in my calculations, though I suppose
that since they're included with a data plan that I'll probably use
them if/when I get a data plan.

> over. Aren't they doing unlimited Medianet for $16?

There hasn't been an "Unlimited MediaNet" for quite a while. Looking
at the plan features page now, I see the above mentioned Media Basic
and Media Works, a Media Max 200 at $20/month for "unlimited" data plus
200 messaging units and a Media Max 1000, the same as the 200 but with
1000 messaging units, at $30/month.

And, I see those while logged into my Cingular account page which has
my correct phone (Treo 680) selected, so the selector system knows what
equipment I have. Actually, I'm finding it difficult to even +find+
the PDA Connect plan online...

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In article <gss5q2lnikostprbim3t0q4ket6irvt647@gordol.org>,
Jeffrey Kaplan <nomail@gordol.org> wrote:

> It is alleged that Kurt claimed:
>
> > > Now, my data usage is higher, but it's still less than the "cheaper to
> > > get a plan" threshold so I still use it a la carte.
> > Thanks for your experience. I have been doing the $20 5 MB data plan.
> > How much do you end up spending with Medianet. May get mine switched
>
> I'm currently averaging less than $10/month for less than 1MB a la
> carte. My threshold for getting a data plan is two consecutive months
> of $15 (1.5MB ) or more.
>
> Media Basic at $10/month is the same rate per kB as a la carte, but
> Media Works is $15 for 5MB plus 1 cent per kB over.
>
> Messaging units are not a factor in my calculations, though I suppose
> that since they're included with a data plan that I'll probably use
> them if/when I get a data plan.
>
> > over. Aren't they doing unlimited Medianet for $16?
>
> There hasn't been an "Unlimited MediaNet" for quite a while. Looking
> at the plan features page now, I see the above mentioned Media Basic
> and Media Works, a Media Max 200 at $20/month for "unlimited" data plus
> 200 messaging units and a Media Max 1000, the same as the 200 but with
> 1000 messaging units, at $30/month.
>
> And, I see those while logged into my Cingular account page which has
> my correct phone (Treo 680) selected, so the selector system knows what
> equipment I have. Actually, I'm finding it difficult to even +find+
> the PDA Connect plan online...

We'll have to see how it actually pans out, but as a longtime Mac user,
the iPhone looks spectacular. My contract is up in May and Cingular
won't let me upgrade until then.

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gee -
do we now go back to the other newsgroup - attws -

"Todd H." <t@toddh.net> wrote in message news:84wt48znjq.fsf@ripco.com...
> "rjdriver" <rjdriversNOSPAM@cox.net> writes:
>> >> But amongst those of a certain age, the name "AT&T" conjures up dark
>> >> memories of the hated "Ma Bell". <<
>>
>> Hated "Ma Bell"? What would that certain age be that hated
>> "Ma Bell"?
>
> Can't say exactly, but I can say mid 30's qualifies. I recall when ma
> Bell controlled things with an expensive iron fist right down to
> renting all your phones to you. You know the ones with the actualy
> bell ringers that Gen X and beyond probably only know from the Matrix
> movies.
>
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> http://www.toddh.net/

I own a bunch of those old Western Electric phones, and they all work
flawlessly.

"Ms. Treo" <nitabandy@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1168283337.837599.183700@i15g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Does anyone know when Cingular will change to at & t? Will the logo on
> our Cingular phones actually change to the at & t logo? I read that at
> & t will change to all lower case letters.
>
> NB
>
>
> On Dec 29 2006, 6:58 pm, Jackzwick <jackzw...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> AT&T (really the old SBC) has gotten approval to swallow up Bell South.
>>
>> http://news.monstersandcritics.com/b...e_1238026.php/...
>> _wins_OK_for_$85B_BellSouth_deal
>>
>> as part of that they say the Cingular name will go away,
>> to be replaced by AT&T
>

The name change takes effect today. And "Jack" (the Cingular logo) will be
going away, to be replaced with the att logo. The company is going to be
called "Wireless service from AT&T."

It seems that Mr Navas was correct in posting his FAQ and Posting Guidelines
to both the Cingular and the ATTWS group. He probably knew that the namve
changes was going to happen long before we did.