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Old 11-24-2006, 10:32 PM
John R. Reyes
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Default Cingular GSM Is It The Best? & New Phone Recommendations

(1) Wife needs a new phone (no contract currently) and my contract wih
Sprint has expired. Looking at Cingular's Family Plan, currently have AT&T
for residential service. Will Cingular waive our Activation fees, any other
freebies we should ask for? Need to purchase by next week.

(2) Is Cingular's GSM better than the networks at Sprint & Verizon, if so
why? We plan to purchase a laptop with an Air Card. Is GSM best network
for the laptop?

(3) Which are the "best" phones Cingular offers for calls with a
walkie-talkie feature and possibly a camera? The camera is not mandatory
just want a "very reliable phone" that receives calls well with few drops.

(4) Any other thoughts from current Cingular customers about how to get the
lowest prices and what else should I be asking to save $$$$? As stated
earlier, we'll be brand new customers.

TIA,

JR



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Old 11-24-2006, 11:00 PM
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Default Re: Cingular GSM Is It The Best? & New Phone Recommendations

In article <iiL9h.9577$6t.2370@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>,
"John R. Reyes" <jreyes6302@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> (1) Wife needs a new phone (no contract currently) and my contract wih
> Sprint has expired. Looking at Cingular's Family Plan, currently have AT&T
> for residential service. Will Cingular waive our Activation fees, any other
> freebies we should ask for? Need to purchase by next week.


Not likely unless you get a discount due to working at a Fortune 500
company


>
> (2) Is Cingular's GSM better than the networks at Sprint & Verizon, if so
> why? We plan to purchase a laptop with an Air Card. Is GSM best network
> for the laptop?


Depends where you live.




>
> (3) Which are the "best" phones Cingular offers for calls with a
> walkie-talkie feature and possibly a camera? The camera is not mandatory
> just want a "very reliable phone" that receives calls well with few drops.


Only Nextel offers decent walkie-talkie, Any other is a poor imitation


>
> (4) Any other thoughts from current Cingular customers about how to get the
> lowest prices and what else should I be asking to save $$$$? As stated
> earlier, we'll be brand new customers.



Find out from friends and neighbors their experiences with whatever
carrier they use.

I switched from Sprint to Cingular, and never regretted it, YMMV.


>
> TIA,
>
> JR


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Old 11-24-2006, 11:04 PM
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Default Re: Cingular GSM Is It The Best? & New Phone Recommendations

In article <456785cd$0$82593$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> Again, if you don't care about keeping your number, look at Amazon's
> deals. For some reason, Amazon has been unable to work out a deal with
> Cingular that allows WNP.


One can always sign up with Amazon, keep the Sprint phone for a week or
two, and then bring your new Cingular phone into a Company owned
Cingular store and port the numbers.


>
> I don't think that having AT&T for residential phone service makes any
> difference in fees.


On the web sites ATT claims to offer discounts on Cingular plans, but
the discounts are off higher starting points and end up being worth zero.

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Old 11-25-2006, 01:04 AM
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At 25 Nov 2006 00:04:15 +0000 Jackzwick wrote:

> One can always sign up with Amazon, keep the Sprint phone for a week or
> two, and then bring your new Cingular phone into a Company owned
> Cingular store and port the numbers.


You could risk that, but according to Amazon's website, you'll then get
whacked a $200+ charge. Supposedly it's a systemic issue between
Cingular and Amazon- the number change prevents Amazon from getting paid
commissions by Cingular, so they charge you back in turn.



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Old 11-25-2006, 05:21 AM
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On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 23:32:30 GMT, "John R. Reyes"
<jreyes6302@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
<iiL9h.9577$6t.2370@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>:

>(1) Wife needs a new phone (no contract currently) and my contract wih
>Sprint has expired. Looking at Cingular's Family Plan, currently have AT&T
>for residential service. Will Cingular waive our Activation fees, any other
>freebies we should ask for? Need to purchase by next week.


It never hurts to ask, but probably not.

>(2) Is Cingular's GSM better than the networks at Sprint & Verizon, if so
>why?


Cingular arguably has the best overall digital coverage in the USA, but
different networks are better in different locations, and Cingular won't
necessarily be best in areas you care about, so you should compare
coverage between carriers in areas you care about most.

>We plan to purchase a laptop with an Air Card. Is GSM best network
>for the laptop?


All of the major carriers have good laptop plans. If you want the
highest possible speed, you'll have to find out which carrier has the
faster speed in your area. If you want the widest possible coverage,
then Cingular is a good bet, because it has EGPRS(EDGE) service with
good speed pretty much anywhere you can get a Cingular signal.

>(3) Which are the "best" phones Cingular offers for calls with a
>walkie-talkie feature and possibly a camera? The camera is not mandatory
>just want a "very reliable phone" that receives calls well with few drops.


Cingular only has a few phones with push-to-talk.

>(4) Any other thoughts from current Cingular customers about how to get the
>lowest prices and what else should I be asking to save $$$$? As stated
>earlier, we'll be brand new customers.


For the best deals, buy your hardware and service on Amazon.com.

For lots more information on Cingular, see the FAQ link in my sig block
below.

Lastly, watch out for a few trolls that spend time here doing their best
to put down Cingular with claims that simply aren't true.

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Old 11-25-2006, 10:52 AM
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Default Re: Cingular GSM Is It The Best? & New Phone Recommendations

John R. Reyes wrote:
> (1) Wife needs a new phone (no contract currently) and my contract wih
> Sprint has expired. Looking at Cingular's Family Plan, currently have AT&T
> for residential service. Will Cingular waive our Activation fees, any other
> freebies we should ask for? Need to purchase by next week.


You should be able to find a dealer that will waive those fees. It's too
bad that Amazon doesn't work with WNP (wireless number portability) and
Cingular, as Amazon has the best deals, but if you don't mind changing
your phone number Amazon would be the best place to buy. Just beware
that many independent dealers impose additional conditions and
termination fees.

> (2) Is Cingular's GSM better than the networks at Sprint & Verizon, if so
> why? We plan to purchase a laptop with an Air Card. Is GSM best network
> for the laptop?


It depends. If you believe all the independent surveys, Verizon has a
better network than Cingular or Sprint. If you don't care about rural
coverage then Cingular is fine, but if you want coverage in out-of-the
way places stick with a tri-mode phone from Sprint or Verizon (tri-mode
phones can still access the old analog AMPS network, which has far more
coverage than any of the digital networks). There are no longer any GSM
phones being sold that can access the old analog network--all have been
discontinued). Don't think that just because you live in a big city that
losing AMPS coverage is inconsequential. In the San Francisco Bay Area,
where I live, there are many locations where AMPS is the only coverage
available, and these places are often just minutes from the city and
suburbs. Verizon is significantly better in terms of coverage in my
area, and if you check Consumer Reports, you'll see that the same holds
for virtually every metro area (there were some ties, but Verizon was
always at least tied for first IIRC).

As to the laptop, Cingular is at a distinct disadvantage in terms of
deployment of their high speed data network, versus Sprint and Verizon.
That said, Sprint's television commercials comparing their EVDO network
to Cingular's EDGE network are unfair. Cingular is rapidly deploying
their HSDPA network, and within six months to a year they will have
coverage that is as good as Sprint and Verizon's EV-DO network. OTOH,
Sprint and Verizon have a path to higher speed EV-DO (4G), while
Cingular is still struggling to roll out 3G.

> (3) Which are the "best" phones Cingular offers for calls with a
> walkie-talkie feature and possibly a camera? The camera is not mandatory
> just want a "very reliable phone" that receives calls well with few drops.


Ugh, do you really want the PTA feature (Push to Annoy)? There are only
two phones that support this feature, and the feature doesn't work all
that well anyway.

> (4) Any other thoughts from current Cingular customers about how to get the
> lowest prices and what else should I be asking to save $$$$? As stated
> earlier, we'll be brand new customers.


Again, if you don't care about keeping your number, look at Amazon's
deals. For some reason, Amazon has been unable to work out a deal with
Cingular that allows WNP.

I don't think that having AT&T for residential phone service makes any
difference in fees.

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Old 11-25-2006, 12:11 PM
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Jackzwick <jackzwick@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <iiL9h.9577$6t.2370@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>,
> "John R. Reyes" <jreyes6302@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


> > (1) Wife needs a new phone (no contract currently) and my contract wih
> > Sprint has expired. Looking at Cingular's Family Plan, currently have
> > AT&T for residential service. Will Cingular waive our Activation fees,
> > any other freebies we should ask for? Need to purchase by next week.


> Not likely unless you get a discount due to working at a Fortune 500
> company


That's worth checking. I don't think the company I was with was anything
near a Fortune 500 company.
https://business.cingular.com/cingular/authenticate/
That was a substantial discount on the original signup and equipment,
yielding about $75 "profit" on buying a new phone, and some discount month
to month.

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Old 11-25-2006, 12:56 PM
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"John R. Reyes" <jreyes6302@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:iiL9h.9577$6t.2370@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com ...
> SNIP



> (3) Which are the "best" phones Cingular offers for calls with a
> walkie-talkie feature and possibly a camera? The camera is not mandatory
> just want a "very reliable phone" that receives calls well with few drops.
>


The new Motorola V365 has a decent (not great) camera, and is a very nice
phone overall, with "Push to Talk" (walkie talkie), as long as (and this
definitely is worth mentioning again) you don't mind annoying the hell out
of people around you.


Bob



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Old 11-25-2006, 02:26 PM
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On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 19:18:17 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in <45685eb9$0$82587$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:

>rjdriver wrote:
>
>> The new Motorola V365 has a decent (not great) camera, and is a very nice
>> phone overall, with "Push to Talk" (walkie talkie), as long as (and this
>> definitely is worth mentioning again) you don't mind annoying the hell out
>> of people around you.

>
>The most used feature of PTT is when you need to communicate with a
>bunch of people at once. This is why it's popular for things like
>construction sites, field service, security, etc. I guess it might be
>nice for family communications if you want to reach all your kids at
>once without calling each one individually. For husband and wife, just
>calling is more convenient.


Your opinion. Other opinions differ -- I know couples that prefer PTT
over calling, chiefly because it's faster and more convenient.

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Old 11-26-2006, 02:18 AM
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rjdriver wrote:

> The new Motorola V365 has a decent (not great) camera, and is a very nice
> phone overall, with "Push to Talk" (walkie talkie), as long as (and this
> definitely is worth mentioning again) you don't mind annoying the hell out
> of people around you.


The most used feature of PTT is when you need to communicate with a
bunch of people at once. This is why it's popular for things like
construction sites, field service, security, etc. I guess it might be
nice for family communications if you want to reach all your kids at
once without calling each one individually. For husband and wife, just
calling is more convenient.

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Old 11-27-2006, 03:34 PM
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SMS wrote:

> I don't think that having AT&T for residential phone service makes any
> difference in fees.


At least in Texas, moving your Cingular bill to your main AT&T bill will save $3/month (as long as
you are the account holder on both bills).

-Jason

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Old 11-27-2006, 07:47 PM
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rjdriver wrote:

> The new Motorola V365 has a decent (not great) camera, and is a very nice
> phone overall, with "Push to Talk" (walkie talkie), as long as (and this
> definitely is worth mentioning again) you don't mind annoying the hell out
> of people around you.


LOL, my wife got a Nextel call over the weekend, as she was on call. It
was rather amusing to listen to half the conversation, with her saying
"over" after each of the half-duplex snippets of conversation. Finally
she told her field person to call her on our home phone. It's annoying
to talk with the PTT feature even when the speaker-phone is off.

Praise the lord, her company is dumping Nextel in January. They're
changing to Sprint, with tri-mode phones, since Sprint and Verizon are
the only carriers that have coverage in many of the areas that the field
people go to in the Bay Area. I'll welcome this, as I'm tired of
subsidizing her company with her using her personal phone for business.
It's not an issue on weekends, but on the long weekend Thursday and
Friday were not considered weekend days, and she was communicating with
her workers on my dime, or more accurately, my 45 cents per minute for
overtime minutes.

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Old 11-28-2006, 05:14 PM
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On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 12:47:49 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in <456b4ef6$0$82530$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:

>rjdriver wrote:
>
>> The new Motorola V365 has a decent (not great) camera, and is a very nice
>> phone overall, with "Push to Talk" (walkie talkie), as long as (and this
>> definitely is worth mentioning again) you don't mind annoying the hell out
>> of people around you.

>
>LOL, my wife got a Nextel call over the weekend, as she was on call. It
>was rather amusing to listen to half the conversation, with her saying
>"over" after each of the half-duplex snippets of conversation. Finally
>she told her field person to call her on our home phone. It's annoying
>to talk with the PTT feature even when the speaker-phone is off.


That's a drawback of Nextel/iDEN PTT that's overcome with the Kodiak PTT
technology used by Cingular.

>Praise the lord, her company is dumping Nextel in January. They're
>changing to Sprint, with tri-mode phones, since Sprint and Verizon are
>the only carriers that have coverage in many of the areas that the field
>people go to in the Bay Area.


Cingular actually has excellent coverage in the Bay Area, and T-Mobile
isn't bad either. Sprint is demonstrably worse in a number of areas,
including significant parts of the East Bay.

Take your Spint/Verizon advocacy to more appropriate forums.

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