Cingular TXT Message SPAM

In article <secmv2h5o1cqs6kdp094kcsimqnch53ar0@4ax.com>,
John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:13:16 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
> in <labolide-F06FE0.13131616032007@news.giganews.com>:
>
> >In article <feflv21v6n4raq0r39vei2timkegahit4f@4ax.com>,
> > John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:54:55 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
> >> in <labolide-DA9136.12545515032007@news.giganews.com>:
> >>
> >> >In article <63tiv2lnotabn9v6648p0pdps7okq4stoh@4ax.com>,
> >>
> >> > John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> >> >> My practice is to use the best tool for the job at hand. For some of my
> >> >> professional work, that will be Solaris on a Sun workstation. For other
> >> >> things, that will be Windows, BSD, or Linux on an Intel machine. For
> >> >> still other things, that will be a Mac, especially when my client is
> >> >> using Macs. (For what it's worth, my personal machine of choice is
> >> >> Windows XP with guest BSD and Linux on an IBM ThinkPad T41.)
> >> >
> >> >Which Mac?
> >>
> >> What possible relevance or importance would that have in this context?
> >> I've used lots of different Macs. Do you want a complete list? How far
> >> back must I go? Do you also want the model numbers of the Sun
> >> workstation, all the non-Mac Intel boxes, and the configuration of my
> >> personal ThinkPad?
> >
> >So you don't actually own any Macs.
>
> I didn't say that. Read more carefully.

You insist on speaking obliquely. What's the big deal?

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On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:15:40 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
in <labolide-D9E4D6.17154016032007@news.giganews.com>:

>In article <secmv2h5o1cqs6kdp094kcsimqnch53ar0@4ax.com>,
> John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:13:16 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
>> in <labolide-F06FE0.13131616032007@news.giganews.com>:
>>
>> >In article <feflv21v6n4raq0r39vei2timkegahit4f@4ax.com>,
>> > John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:54:55 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
>> >> in <labolide-DA9136.12545515032007@news.giganews.com>:
>> >>
>> >> >In article <63tiv2lnotabn9v6648p0pdps7okq4stoh@4ax.com>,
>> >>
>> >> > John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>> >> >> My practice is to use the best tool for the job at hand. For some of my
>> >> >> professional work, that will be Solaris on a Sun workstation. For other
>> >> >> things, that will be Windows, BSD, or Linux on an Intel machine. For
>> >> >> still other things, that will be a Mac, especially when my client is
>> >> >> using Macs. (For what it's worth, my personal machine of choice is
>> >> >> Windows XP with guest BSD and Linux on an IBM ThinkPad T41.)
>> >> >
>> >> >Which Mac?
>> >>
>> >> What possible relevance or importance would that have in this context?
>> >> I've used lots of different Macs. Do you want a complete list? How far
>> >> back must I go? Do you also want the model numbers of the Sun
>> >> workstation, all the non-Mac Intel boxes, and the configuration of my
>> >> personal ThinkPad?
>> >
>> >So you don't actually own any Macs.
>>
>> I didn't say that. Read more carefully.
>
>You insist on speaking obliquely. What's the big deal?

lack of relevance. Waste of time.

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In article <lkdmv2hkf5nj3vhg2rdaf1tvha0v6knhn8@4ax.com>,
John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:15:40 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
> in <labolide-D9E4D6.17154016032007@news.giganews.com>:
>
> >In article <secmv2h5o1cqs6kdp094kcsimqnch53ar0@4ax.com>,
> > John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:13:16 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
> >> in <labolide-F06FE0.13131616032007@news.giganews.com>:
> >>
> >> >In article <feflv21v6n4raq0r39vei2timkegahit4f@4ax.com>,
> >> > John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:54:55 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com>
> >> >> wrote
> >> >> in <labolide-DA9136.12545515032007@news.giganews.com>:
> >> >>
> >> >> >In article <63tiv2lnotabn9v6648p0pdps7okq4stoh@4ax.com>,
> >> >>
> >> >> > John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> My practice is to use the best tool for the job at hand. For some
> >> >> >> of my
> >> >> >> professional work, that will be Solaris on a Sun workstation. For
> >> >> >> other
> >> >> >> things, that will be Windows, BSD, or Linux on an Intel machine.
> >> >> >> For
> >> >> >> still other things, that will be a Mac, especially when my client is
> >> >> >> using Macs. (For what it's worth, my personal machine of choice is
> >> >> >> Windows XP with guest BSD and Linux on an IBM ThinkPad T41.)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Which Mac?
> >> >>
> >> >> What possible relevance or importance would that have in this context?
> >> >> I've used lots of different Macs. Do you want a complete list? How
> >> >> far
> >> >> back must I go? Do you also want the model numbers of the Sun
> >> >> workstation, all the non-Mac Intel boxes, and the configuration of my
> >> >> personal ThinkPad?
> >> >
> >> >So you don't actually own any Macs.
> >>
> >> I didn't say that. Read more carefully.
> >
> >You insist on speaking obliquely. What's the big deal?
>
> lack of relevance. Waste of time.

Yet enough time to write mini dissertations on the matter.

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><karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>news:ua0gv259l29l475q072uf4tfh7v8hfar9i@4ax.com.. .
> Finally worked my way up to a Vice President; and got satisfaction for
> Cingular sending txt message SPAM to an account that had txt messaging
> deactivated.
>
> They went through many interatiions.
>
> First the CSRs said it was an Administrative Message
>
> Then the head of the "Office of the President" said it was a Marketing
> Message.
>
> Today the VP called it an accident..
>
>
Here is what you need to know about this issue.
Cingular/AT&T has the ok to send SMS to you.

Read the following
a.. No one may use an automatic dialing machine to call your wireless
phone number - including to send a text message to that telephone number -
unless you have given prior express permission for the call or the call is
made for an emergency purpose, i.e., the call is necessary in a situation
that affects the health and safety of consumers. There is a limited
exception allowing cell phone companies to contact their own subscribers.
b.. If you have registered your cell phone number on the National
Do-Not-Call Registry, no one may make a telephone solicitation to that
telephone number, unless you have given prior express permission for the
solicitation or have an established business relationship with the caller.
If you tell a company not to call again - even if it has a business
relationship with you - that company is prohibited from calling you with
solicitations.
--
Andrew D. Sisson
VZW VX8100 AC II
SonyEricsson W300i CINGULAR NATION SINCE MARCH 2006

Andy S wrote:
> Read the following
> a.. No one may use an automatic dialing machine to call your wireless
> phone number - including to send a text message to that telephone number -
> unless you have given prior express permission for the call or the call is
> made for an emergency purpose, i.e., the call is necessary in a situation
> that affects the health and safety of consumers. There is a limited
> exception allowing cell phone companies to contact their own subscribers.

Unfortunately, all entities with whom you have a business relationship
are exempt.

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clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in
news:2e83d4-6h2.ln1@remote.clifto.com:

> Andy S wrote:
>> Read the following
>> a.. No one may use an automatic dialing machine to call your
>> wireless
>> phone number - including to send a text message to that telephone
>> number - unless you have given prior express permission for the call
>> or the call is made for an emergency purpose, i.e., the call is
>> necessary in a situation that affects the health and safety of
>> consumers. There is a limited exception allowing cell phone companies
>> to contact their own subscribers.
>
> Unfortunately, all entities with whom you have a business relationship
> are exempt.
>

Exactly .

>> Andy S wrote:
>> Read the following
>> a.. No one may use an automatic dialing machine to call your wireless
>> phone number - including to send a text message to that telephone
>> number -
>> unless you have given prior express permission for the call or the call
>> is
>> made for an emergency purpose, i.e., the call is necessary in a situation
>> that affects the health and safety of consumers. There is a limited
>> exception allowing cell phone companies to contact their own subscribers.
>>
>
>"clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:2e83d4-6h2.ln1@remote.clifto.com...
> Unfortunately, all entities with whom you have a business relationship
> are exempt.
>
> --
> Martians drive SUVs! <http://oregonmag.com/MarsWarm307.html>
>
That is stated in paragraph b.

In article <H_ydnU2b1OYHh2LYnZ2dnUVZ_vfinZ2d@adelphia.com>,
Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:

> clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:2e83d4-6h2.ln1@remote.clifto.com:
>
> > Andy S wrote:
> >> Read the following
> >> a.. No one may use an automatic dialing machine to call your
> >> wireless
> >> phone number - including to send a text message to that telephone
> >> number - unless you have given prior express permission for the call
> >> or the call is made for an emergency purpose, i.e., the call is
> >> necessary in a situation that affects the health and safety of
> >> consumers. There is a limited exception allowing cell phone companies
> >> to contact their own subscribers.
> >
> > Unfortunately, all entities with whom you have a business relationship
> > are exempt.
> >
>
> Exactly .

And all their "partners".

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Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in news:labolide-5249BF.17425019032007
@news.giganews.com:

> In article <H_ydnU2b1OYHh2LYnZ2dnUVZ_vfinZ2d@adelphia.com>,
> Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
>
>> clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:2e83d4-6h2.ln1@remote.clifto.com:
>>
>> > Andy S wrote:
>> >> Read the following
>> >> a.. No one may use an automatic dialing machine to call your
>> >> wireless
>> >> phone number - including to send a text message to that telephone
>> >> number - unless you have given prior express permission for the call
>> >> or the call is made for an emergency purpose, i.e., the call is
>> >> necessary in a situation that affects the health and safety of
>> >> consumers. There is a limited exception allowing cell phone companies
>> >> to contact their own subscribers.
>> >
>> > Unfortunately, all entities with whom you have a business relationship
>> > are exempt.
>> >
>>
>> Exactly .
>
> And all their "partners".
>

No- although any partners that you have njoyed a business relationship
through the provider would count. Partners calling on behalf of the
provider would count.

Your broad statement would not count.