Finally worked my way up to a Vice President; and got satisfaction for
Cingular sending txt message SPAM to an account that had txt messaging
deactivated.
They went through many interatiions.
First the CSRs said it was an Administrative Message
Then the head of the "Office of the President" said it was a Marketing
Message.
> Finally worked my way up to a Vice President; and got satisfaction for
> Cingular sending txt message SPAM to an account that had txt messaging
> deactivated.
>
> They went through many interatiions.
>
> First the CSRs said it was an Administrative Message
>
> Then the head of the "Office of the President" said it was a Marketing
> Message.
>
> Today the VP called it an accident..
>
>
>
Called it an accident or you an accident.
Glad to see that you're ringing up the nuisance credits just as you did
with Sprint- you must be starving for attention again.
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:46:34 -0500, Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
>karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net wrote in
>news:ua0gv259l29l475q072uf4tfh7v8hfar9i@4ax.com :
>
>> Finally worked my way up to a Vice President; and got satisfaction for
>> Cingular sending txt message SPAM to an account that had txt messaging
>> deactivated.
>>
>> They went through many interatiions.
>>
>> First the CSRs said it was an Administrative Message
>>
>> Then the head of the "Office of the President" said it was a Marketing
>> Message.
>>
>> Today the VP called it an accident..
>>
>
>Glad to see that you're ringing up the nuisance credits just as you did
>with Sprint- you must be starving for attention again.
It was fun using the automatic system to get credits for the myriad
dropped calls with Sprint. But finally the Biodegradable plastic
phones that held a grand total of 8 ringtones was a downer.
I will always hold corporations to account when they screw up, rather
than look to make excuses for them. And it was ATTWS that
I previously held their feet to the fire.
Doesn't mean I'm not a happy Cingular customer (jeez anything is
better than Sprint), and happily awaiting an iPhone.
>
> It was fun using the automatic system to get credits for the myriad
> dropped calls with Sprint.
Admission of fraud- how cavalier, you slug.
> But finally the Biodegradable plastic
> phones that held a grand total of 8 ringtones was a downer.
I see that the urban myths still run rampant in your tiny little brain.
>
>
> I will always hold corporations to account when they screw up, rather
> than look to make excuses for them. And it was ATTWS that
> I previously held their feet to the fire.
How did they screw up? They were well within their rights to contact you
as an existing customer. You were simply looking for a nuisance credit,
which is very appropriately named in this case.
>
> Doesn't mean I'm not a happy Cingular customer (jeez anything is
> better than Sprint),
No- nothing is better than Sprint now that you left.
> and happily awaiting an iPhone.
>
Good- let me know how the Flinstone technology works for you. I'd rather
have cutting-edge technology for that price rather than a repackage of at
least ten less-than-$200 phones that I can think of.
In article <U_Kdnc1i279IEGXYnZ2dnUVZ_oavnZ2d@adelphia.com>,
Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
> > and happily awaiting an iPhone.
> >
>
> Good- let me know how the Flinstone technology works for you. I'd rather
> have cutting-edge technology for that price rather than a repackage of at
> least ten less-than-$200 phones that I can think of.
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:14:17 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
in <labolide-FF23DC.17141714032007@news.giganews.com>:
>In article <U_Kdnc1i279IEGXYnZ2dnUVZ_oavnZ2d@adelphia.com>,
> Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
>
>> > and happily awaiting an iPhone.
>>
>> Good- let me know how the Flinstone technology works for you. I'd rather
>> have cutting-edge technology for that price rather than a repackage of at
>> least ten less-than-$200 phones that I can think of.
>
>I'd rather carry just one phone.
I'd rather have a real phone than vaporware, and I'd rather have an
HSDPA phone than an expensive music player.
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
>Finally worked my way up to a Vice President; and got satisfaction for
>Cingular sending txt message SPAM to an account that had txt messaging
>deactivated.
>
>They went through many interatiions.
>
>First the CSRs said it was an Administrative Message
>
>Then the head of the "Office of the President" said it was a Marketing
>Message.
>
>Today the VP called it an accident..
>
Do you honestly think that "the VP" called you? For that matter do you
think that any VP of the company called you about a single text
message?
What you got was an intelligent customer service rep. who realized
just by saying he/she was a VP and saying something was an accident
would satisfy you and get you off the line.
Now I have some ocean front property for sale in South Dakota - any
takers? <GRIN>
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:05:41 -0500, Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
>karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net wrote in
>news:cl2hv297tj7v3sjb1g3n26t5alhkhrrbad@4ax.com :
>
>
>>
>> It was fun using the automatic system to get credits for the myriad
>> dropped calls with Sprint.
>
>
>Admission of fraud- how cavalier, you slug.
Whats fraudulent. All you like to do is insult someone foor leaving
Sprint? You left Ohio !
>
>> But finally the Biodegradable plastic
>> phones that held a grand total of 8 ringtones was a downer.
>
>
>I see that the urban myths still run rampant in your tiny little brain.
Not Myths, experience with Sanyo phones.
>
>
>>
>>
>> I will always hold corporations to account when they screw up, rather
>> than look to make excuses for them. And it was ATTWS that
>> I previously held their feet to the fire.
>
>How did they screw up? They were well within their rights to contact you
>as an existing customer. You were simply looking for a nuisance credit,
>which is very appropriately named in this case.
>
>
>>
>> Doesn't mean I'm not a happy Cingular customer (jeez anything is
>> better than Sprint),
>
>
>No- nothing is better than Sprint now that you left.
Funny, Consumer Reports, J.D. Power, and Yankee group have for each of
the last three years since I left Sprint,
still rank it WORST in Customer Service. Nothing has changed there.
>
>> and happily awaiting an iPhone.
>>
>
>Good- let me know how the Flinstone technology works for you. I'd rather
>have cutting-edge technology for that price rather than a repackage of at
>least ten less-than-$200 phones that I can think of.
Insulting the iPhone cause Sprint can't have one? How lame !!
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:19:08 GMT, John Navas
<spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:14:17 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
>in <labolide-FF23DC.17141714032007@news.giganews.com>:
>
>>In article <U_Kdnc1i279IEGXYnZ2dnUVZ_oavnZ2d@adelphia.com>,
>> Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
>>
>>> > and happily awaiting an iPhone.
>>>
>>> Good- let me know how the Flinstone technology works for you. I'd rather
>>> have cutting-edge technology for that price rather than a repackage of at
>>> least ten less-than-$200 phones that I can think of.
>>
>>I'd rather carry just one phone.
>
>I'd rather have a real phone than vaporware, and I'd rather have an
>HSDPA phone than an expensive music player.
We'll see who has the last laugh come July 1. meanwhile I was 100%
correct that V3 phones would be free by now, indeed they're at minus
$50 if bought through Amazon,
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:30:12 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>In article <U_Kdnc1i279IEGXYnZ2dnUVZ_oavnZ2d@adelphia.com>,
> Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
>
>> > It was fun using the automatic system to get credits for the myriad
>> > dropped calls with Sprint.
>>
>>
>> Admission of fraud- how cavalier, you slug.
>
>How is that an admission of fraud?
>
>He got credit for the myriad of dropped calls. That's not fraud.
You have to excuse Scott, he's your basic Sprint apologist.
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:33:55 -0400, Mary <zzz@zzz.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:10:47 GMT, karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
>>Finally worked my way up to a Vice President; and got satisfaction for
>>Cingular sending txt message SPAM to an account that had txt messaging
>>deactivated.
>>
>>They went through many interatiions.
>>
>>First the CSRs said it was an Administrative Message
>>
>>Then the head of the "Office of the President" said it was a Marketing
>>Message.
>>
>>Today the VP called it an accident..
>>
>
>Do you honestly think that "the VP" called you? For that matter do you
>think that any VP of the company called you about a single text
>message?
>
>What you got was an intelligent customer service rep. who realized
>just by saying he/she was a VP and saying something was an accident
>would satisfy you and get you off the line.
>
>Now I have some ocean front property for sale in South Dakota - any
>takers? <GRIN>
>
Nope it was the Vice President. No CSR has the authority to do what he
did.
In article <d64hv2pn5fms2j5je4b06i6ruhs34me10m@4ax.com>,
John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:14:17 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
> in <labolide-FF23DC.17141714032007@news.giganews.com>:
>
> >In article <U_Kdnc1i279IEGXYnZ2dnUVZ_oavnZ2d@adelphia.com>,
> > Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
> >
> >> > and happily awaiting an iPhone.
> >>
> >> Good- let me know how the Flinstone technology works for you. I'd rather
> >> have cutting-edge technology for that price rather than a repackage of at
> >> least ten less-than-$200 phones that I can think of.
> >
> >I'd rather carry just one phone.
>
> I'd rather have a real phone than vaporware, and I'd rather have an
> HSDPA phone than an expensive music player.
In article <da8hv212ffcjegt1vjobc327kn8ss4345a@4ax.com>,
Mary <zzz@zzz.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:10:47 GMT, karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
> >Finally worked my way up to a Vice President; and got satisfaction for
> >Cingular sending txt message SPAM to an account that had txt messaging
> >deactivated.
> >
> >They went through many interatiions.
> >
> >First the CSRs said it was an Administrative Message
> >
> >Then the head of the "Office of the President" said it was a Marketing
> >Message.
> >
> >Today the VP called it an accident..
> >
>
> Do you honestly think that "the VP" called you? For that matter do you
> think that any VP of the company called you about a single text
> message?
>
> What you got was an intelligent customer service rep. who realized
> just by saying he/she was a VP and saying something was an accident
> would satisfy you and get you off the line.
>
> Now I have some ocean front property for sale in South Dakota - any
> takers? <GRIN>
It's a fine tradition going back to the titles on car dealership
business cards, where every salesperson was a VP of something ("VP of
Fleet Sales" was always a good one).
>On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:33:55 -0400, Mary <zzz@zzz.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:10:47 GMT, karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>>
>>>Finally worked my way up to a Vice President; and got satisfaction for
>>>Cingular sending txt message SPAM to an account that had txt messaging
>>>deactivated.
>>>
>>>They went through many interatiions.
>>>
>>>First the CSRs said it was an Administrative Message
>>>
>>>Then the head of the "Office of the President" said it was a Marketing
>>>Message.
>>>
>>>Today the VP called it an accident..
>>>
>>
>>Do you honestly think that "the VP" called you? For that matter do you
>>think that any VP of the company called you about a single text
>>message?
>>
>>What you got was an intelligent customer service rep. who realized
>>just by saying he/she was a VP and saying something was an accident
>>would satisfy you and get you off the line.
>>
>>Now I have some ocean front property for sale in South Dakota - any
>>takers? <GRIN>
>>
>
>
>Nope it was the Vice President. No CSR has the authority to do what he
>did.
Can I interpret this to mean you are interested in buying my ocean
front property?
> In article <U_Kdnc1i279IEGXYnZ2dnUVZ_oavnZ2d@adelphia.com>,
> Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
>
>> > It was fun using the automatic system to get credits for the myriad
>> > dropped calls with Sprint.
>>
>>
>> Admission of fraud- how cavalier, you slug.
>
> How is that an admission of fraud?
>
> He got credit for the myriad of dropped calls. That's not fraud.
>
Google the prtintpcs group archives for postingd by Phillipe, circa 2003-
2004. They will explain themselves.
> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:05:41 -0500, Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
>
>>karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net wrote in
>>news:cl2hv297tj7v3sjb1g3n26t5alhkhrrbad@4ax.co m:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> It was fun using the automatic system to get credits for the myriad
>>> dropped calls with Sprint.
>>
>>
>>Admission of fraud- how cavalier, you slug.
>
> Whats fraudulent. All you like to do is insult someone foor leaving
> Sprint? You left Ohio !
Left Ohio? Do you mean left Ohio as in never lived there?
>
>>
>>> But finally the Biodegradable plastic
>>> phones that held a grand total of 8 ringtones was a downer.
>>
>>
>>I see that the urban myths still run rampant in your tiny little
>>brain.
>
> Not Myths, experience with Sanyo phones.
The experience of a single user is hardly authoritative- ask John
Novice.
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I will always hold corporations to account when they screw up,
>>> rather than look to make excuses for them. And it was ATTWS that
>>> I previously held their feet to the fire.
>>
>>How did they screw up? They were well within their rights to contact
>>you as an existing customer. You were simply looking for a nuisance
>>credit, which is very appropriately named in this case.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Doesn't mean I'm not a happy Cingular customer (jeez anything is
>>> better than Sprint),
>>
>>
>>No- nothing is better than Sprint now that you left.
>
> Funny, Consumer Reports, J.D. Power, and Yankee group have for each of
> the last three years since I left Sprint,
> still rank it WORST in Customer Service. Nothing has changed there.
And the most recently released independent study of dropped calls rated
them higher than Cingular (the self -professed leader). The legacy
Cingular network came in fifth, I believe.
>
>>
>>> and happily awaiting an iPhone.
>>>
>>
>>Good- let me know how the Flinstone technology works for you. I'd
>>rather have cutting-edge technology for that price rather than a
>>repackage of at least ten less-than-$200 phones that I can think of.
>
> Insulting the iPhone cause Sprint can't have one? How lame !!
>
>
How is stating the obvious an insult? The phone will do nothing useful
on the network that any one of about a dozen current production models
and a couple of dozen retired production models of various manufacturers
already do. And any one of those phones can be had for under $200, with
a few available for a little more than $100. Hell, the Razr has the
network functionality of your beloved iPhone. And based on the publicly
acknowledged supply issues Apple is experiencing to manufacture the
phone, the chances of getting a defective phone will be extremely high.
No thanks, I'll pass- I'd rather own a phone that will work and not pay
a price reserved for the clueless.
> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:33:55 -0400, Mary <zzz@zzz.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:10:47 GMT, karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>>
>>>Finally worked my way up to a Vice President; and got satisfaction for
>>>Cingular sending txt message SPAM to an account that had txt messaging
>>>deactivated.
>>>
>>>They went through many interatiions.
>>>
>>>First the CSRs said it was an Administrative Message
>>>
>>>Then the head of the "Office of the President" said it was a Marketing
>>>Message.
>>>
>>>Today the VP called it an accident..
>>>
>>
>>Do you honestly think that "the VP" called you? For that matter do you
>>think that any VP of the company called you about a single text
>>message?
>>
>>What you got was an intelligent customer service rep. who realized
>>just by saying he/she was a VP and saying something was an accident
>>would satisfy you and get you off the line.
>>
>>Now I have some ocean front property for sale in South Dakota - any
>>takers? <GRIN>
>>
>
>
> Nope it was the Vice President. No CSR has the authority to do what he
> did.
Not true- they all have the ability to issue nuisance credits.
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:47:37 GMT, karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net wrote in
<ac9hv2httr2g2mfk9k9iv3co22e3vcsg8l@4ax.com>:
>On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:19:08 GMT, John Navas
><spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:14:17 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
>>in <labolide-FF23DC.17141714032007@news.giganews.com>:
>>
>>>In article <U_Kdnc1i279IEGXYnZ2dnUVZ_oavnZ2d@adelphia.com>,
>>> Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
>>>
>>>> > and happily awaiting an iPhone.
>>>>
>>>> Good- let me know how the Flinstone technology works for you. I'd rather
>>>> have cutting-edge technology for that price rather than a repackage of at
>>>> least ten less-than-$200 phones that I can think of.
>>>
>>>I'd rather carry just one phone.
>>
>>I'd rather have a real phone than vaporware, and I'd rather have an
>>HSDPA phone than an expensive music player.
>
>We'll see who has the last laugh come July 1.
I already have the last laugh -- my phone is working very well indeed,
not to mention being considerably less expensive.
>meanwhile I was 100%
>correct that V3 phones would be free by now, indeed they're at minus
>$50 if bought through Amazon,
V3xx? On an upgrade? Really? Suggest you actually check instead of
just guessing.
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:50:40 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
in <labolide-1CEFEE.18504014032007@news.giganews.com>:
>In article <d64hv2pn5fms2j5je4b06i6ruhs34me10m@4ax.com>,
> John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:14:17 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
>> in <labolide-FF23DC.17141714032007@news.giganews.com>:
>>
>> >In article <U_Kdnc1i279IEGXYnZ2dnUVZ_oavnZ2d@adelphia.com>,
>> > Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
>> >
>> >> > and happily awaiting an iPhone.
>> >>
>> >> Good- let me know how the Flinstone technology works for you. I'd rather
>> >> have cutting-edge technology for that price rather than a repackage of at
>> >> least ten less-than-$200 phones that I can think of.
>> >
>> >I'd rather carry just one phone.
>>
>> I'd rather have a real phone than vaporware, and I'd rather have an
>> HSDPA phone than an expensive music player.
>
>Yes, we know... ;-)
>
>Never owned a Mac recently, have you?
My rather extensive hardware inventory includes gear from most of the
major vendors, Apple included.
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:19:08 GMT, John Navas
<spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in
<d64hv2pn5fms2j5je4b06i6ruhs34me10m@4ax.com>:
>On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:14:17 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
>in <labolide-FF23DC.17141714032007@news.giganews.com>:
>
>>In article <U_Kdnc1i279IEGXYnZ2dnUVZ_oavnZ2d@adelphia.com>,
>> Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
>>
>>> > and happily awaiting an iPhone.
>>>
>>> Good- let me know how the Flinstone technology works for you. I'd rather
>>> have cutting-edge technology for that price rather than a repackage of at
>>> least ten less-than-$200 phones that I can think of.
>>
>>I'd rather carry just one phone.
>
>I'd rather have a real phone than vaporware, and I'd rather have an
>HSDPA phone than an expensive music player.
For that matter, my V3xx is quite good at playing music, and podcasts as
well. I just might buy a dirt cheap 1 GB memory card.
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
On 15 Mar 2007 00:31:54 -0700, "Bucky" <uw_badgers@email.com> wrote:
>On Mar 14, 7:12 pm, Mary <z...@zzz.com> wrote:
>> Can I interpret this to mean you are interested in buying my ocean
>> front property?
>
>Yes, but I mistakenly sent you a money order for twice the amount.
>Please wire me the difference.
OK, already done. Let me know if it doesn't show up.
>
>P.S. Did you know that the President of the United States personally
>signed those achievement certificates that I got in grade school?
Yes I did. I graduated from Abraham Lincoln High School in 1973 and
President Lincoln personnally signed all of our diplomas.
In article <ssihv25l3ov7grdoaqfvujlod4t5h78e7p@4ax.com>,
John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:50:40 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
> in <labolide-1CEFEE.18504014032007@news.giganews.com>:
>
> >In article <d64hv2pn5fms2j5je4b06i6ruhs34me10m@4ax.com>,
> > John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:14:17 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
> >> in <labolide-FF23DC.17141714032007@news.giganews.com>:
> >>
> >> >In article <U_Kdnc1i279IEGXYnZ2dnUVZ_oavnZ2d@adelphia.com>,
> >> > Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> > and happily awaiting an iPhone.
> >> >>
> >> >> Good- let me know how the Flinstone technology works for you. I'd
> >> >> rather
> >> >> have cutting-edge technology for that price rather than a repackage of
> >> >> at
> >> >> least ten less-than-$200 phones that I can think of.
> >> >
> >> >I'd rather carry just one phone.
> >>
> >> I'd rather have a real phone than vaporware, and I'd rather have an
> >> HSDPA phone than an expensive music player.
> >
> >Yes, we know... ;-)
> >
> >Never owned a Mac recently, have you?
>
> My rather extensive hardware inventory includes gear from most of the
> major vendors, Apple included.
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:38:08 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
in <labolide-F85925.08380815032007@news.giganews.com>:
>In article <ssihv25l3ov7grdoaqfvujlod4t5h78e7p@4ax.com>,
> John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:50:40 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
>> in <labolide-1CEFEE.18504014032007@news.giganews.com>:
>>
>> >In article <d64hv2pn5fms2j5je4b06i6ruhs34me10m@4ax.com>,
>> > John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:14:17 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
>> >> in <labolide-FF23DC.17141714032007@news.giganews.com>:
>> >>
>> >> >In article <U_Kdnc1i279IEGXYnZ2dnUVZ_oavnZ2d@adelphia.com>,
>> >> > Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> > and happily awaiting an iPhone.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Good- let me know how the Flinstone technology works for you. I'd
>> >> >> rather
>> >> >> have cutting-edge technology for that price rather than a repackage of
>> >> >> at
>> >> >> least ten less-than-$200 phones that I can think of.
>> >> >
>> >> >I'd rather carry just one phone.
>> >>
>> >> I'd rather have a real phone than vaporware, and I'd rather have an
>> >> HSDPA phone than an expensive music player.
>> >
>> >Yes, we know... ;-)
>> >
>> >Never owned a Mac recently, have you?
>>
>> My rather extensive hardware inventory includes gear from most of the
>> major vendors, Apple included.
>
>You own and use a Mac computer?
What part of what I wrote was unclear?
My practice is to use the best tool for the job at hand. For some of my
professional work, that will be Solaris on a Sun workstation. For other
things, that will be Windows, BSD, or Linux on an Intel machine. For
still other things, that will be a Mac, especially when my client is
using Macs. (For what it's worth, my personal machine of choice is
Windows XP with guest BSD and Linux on an IBM ThinkPad T41.)
Regardless, the characteristics of current Macs have no real bearing the
upcoming iPhone -- the iPod is probably more relevant, although only
partially relevant. Only time will tell how well the iPhone measures up
to and will do against offerings from established major cellular
manufacturers. I would frankly be surprised if the iPhone amounts to
more than a niche product, with small market share like the Mac (not the
iPod). Or was that what you meant?
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
In article <63tiv2lnotabn9v6648p0pdps7okq4stoh@4ax.com>,
John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:38:08 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
> in <labolide-F85925.08380815032007@news.giganews.com>:
>
> >In article <ssihv25l3ov7grdoaqfvujlod4t5h78e7p@4ax.com>,
> > John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:50:40 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
> >> in <labolide-1CEFEE.18504014032007@news.giganews.com>:
> >>
> >> >In article <d64hv2pn5fms2j5je4b06i6ruhs34me10m@4ax.com>,
> >> > John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:14:17 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com>
> >> >> wrote
> >> >> in <labolide-FF23DC.17141714032007@news.giganews.com>:
> >> >>
> >> >> >In article <U_Kdnc1i279IEGXYnZ2dnUVZ_oavnZ2d@adelphia.com>,
> >> >> > Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > and happily awaiting an iPhone.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Good- let me know how the Flinstone technology works for you. I'd
> >> >> >> rather
> >> >> >> have cutting-edge technology for that price rather than a repackage
> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> at
> >> >> >> least ten less-than-$200 phones that I can think of.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I'd rather carry just one phone.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'd rather have a real phone than vaporware, and I'd rather have an
> >> >> HSDPA phone than an expensive music player.
> >> >
> >> >Yes, we know... ;-)
> >> >
> >> >Never owned a Mac recently, have you?
> >>
> >> My rather extensive hardware inventory includes gear from most of the
> >> major vendors, Apple included.
> >
> >You own and use a Mac computer?
>
> What part of what I wrote was unclear?
Ambiguous answer. You made it sound like you might have a Mac peripheral
plugged to a PC.
>
> My practice is to use the best tool for the job at hand. For some of my
> professional work, that will be Solaris on a Sun workstation. For other
> things, that will be Windows, BSD, or Linux on an Intel machine. For
> still other things, that will be a Mac, especially when my client is
> using Macs. (For what it's worth, my personal machine of choice is
> Windows XP with guest BSD and Linux on an IBM ThinkPad T41.)
Which Mac?
>
> Regardless, the characteristics of current Macs have no real bearing the
> upcoming iPhone -- the iPod is probably more relevant, although only
> partially relevant. Only time will tell how well the iPhone measures up
> to and will do against offerings from established major cellular
> manufacturers. I would frankly be surprised if the iPhone amounts to
> more than a niche product, with small market share like the Mac (not the
> iPod). Or was that what you meant?
The same was said by a few when the iPod came out.
I'll let you know how it works when I get mine. The current "major
offerings" are dismal. The industry needed a shakeup.
In article <elmop-046201.12195715032007@nntp1.usenetserver.com>,
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
> In article <labolide-F85925.08380815032007@news.giganews.com>,
> Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > My rather extensive hardware inventory includes gear from most of the
> > > major vendors, Apple included.
> >
> > You own and use a Mac computer?
>
> He owns and uses a computer, obviously, but the rest of it is all in his
> mind.
>
> Navas would tell you all sorts of stories, on the thought that you might
> actually believe him.
I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. Would be truly sad if
he were presenting himself as something he's not. Doesn't bother me
either way.
In article <labolide-67672A.12571815032007@news.giganews.com>,
Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote:
> In article <elmop-046201.12195715032007@nntp1.usenetserver.com>,
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <labolide-F85925.08380815032007@news.giganews.com>,
> > Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > My rather extensive hardware inventory includes gear from most of the
> > > > major vendors, Apple included.
> > >
> > > You own and use a Mac computer?
> >
> > He owns and uses a computer, obviously, but the rest of it is all in his
> > mind.
> >
> > Navas would tell you all sorts of stories, on the thought that you might
> > actually believe him.
>
> I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. Would be truly sad if
> he were presenting himself as something he's not. Doesn't bother me
> either way.
I doubt he uses Mac. It is like his claim that writing wiki is equal to
writing decertation.
> John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>> My practice is to use the best tool for the job at hand. For some of my
>> professional work, that will be Solaris on a Sun workstation. For other
>> things, that will be Windows, BSD, or Linux on an Intel machine. For
>> still other things, that will be a Mac, especially when my client is
>> using Macs. (For what it's worth, my personal machine of choice is
>> Windows XP with guest BSD and Linux on an IBM ThinkPad T41.)
>
>Which Mac?
What possible relevance or importance would that have in this context?
I've used lots of different Macs. Do you want a complete list? How far
back must I go? Do you also want the model numbers of the Sun
workstation, all the non-Mac Intel boxes, and the configuration of my
personal ThinkPad?
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In article <feflv21v6n4raq0r39vei2timkegahit4f@4ax.com>,
John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:54:55 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
> in <labolide-DA9136.12545515032007@news.giganews.com>:
>
> >In article <63tiv2lnotabn9v6648p0pdps7okq4stoh@4ax.com>,
>
> > John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> >> My practice is to use the best tool for the job at hand. For some of my
> >> professional work, that will be Solaris on a Sun workstation. For other
> >> things, that will be Windows, BSD, or Linux on an Intel machine. For
> >> still other things, that will be a Mac, especially when my client is
> >> using Macs. (For what it's worth, my personal machine of choice is
> >> Windows XP with guest BSD and Linux on an IBM ThinkPad T41.)
> >
> >Which Mac?
>
> What possible relevance or importance would that have in this context?
> I've used lots of different Macs. Do you want a complete list? How far
> back must I go? Do you also want the model numbers of the Sun
> workstation, all the non-Mac Intel boxes, and the configuration of my
> personal ThinkPad?
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:13:16 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
in <labolide-F06FE0.13131616032007@news.giganews.com>:
>In article <feflv21v6n4raq0r39vei2timkegahit4f@4ax.com>,
> John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:54:55 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
>> in <labolide-DA9136.12545515032007@news.giganews.com>:
>>
>> >In article <63tiv2lnotabn9v6648p0pdps7okq4stoh@4ax.com>,
>>
>> > John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>> >> My practice is to use the best tool for the job at hand. For some of my
>> >> professional work, that will be Solaris on a Sun workstation. For other
>> >> things, that will be Windows, BSD, or Linux on an Intel machine. For
>> >> still other things, that will be a Mac, especially when my client is
>> >> using Macs. (For what it's worth, my personal machine of choice is
>> >> Windows XP with guest BSD and Linux on an IBM ThinkPad T41.)
>> >
>> >Which Mac?
>>
>> What possible relevance or importance would that have in this context?
>> I've used lots of different Macs. Do you want a complete list? How far
>> back must I go? Do you also want the model numbers of the Sun
>> workstation, all the non-Mac Intel boxes, and the configuration of my
>> personal ThinkPad?
>
>So you don't actually own any Macs.
I didn't say that. Read more carefully.
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