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Old 03-20-2008, 08:05 PM
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Default Clamshell iPhone on the way

Apple's iPhone launch caused a wave of excitement that even now refuses
to die down. The company is now planning to ride on this with a
"clamshell iPhone". Yes, "clamshell iPhone" which will be smaller --
likely half the size of the iPhone, but will take a couple of years to
go to market.

A touch-screen patent first filed by Apple in the US in September 2006
has given birth to this speculation about Apple mulling a "clamshell
iPhone". The patent application, which has been newly disclosed,
contains illustrated features including a transparent dual-sided
touch-sensitive trackpad cover; meaning the top of the iPhone is covered
with a transparent touch panel which when opened reveals an also
touch-sensitive inner side.

It also appears from the patent that the "clamshell iPhone" will enable
users write in numbers and letters using their fingers. Meanwhile, the
patent doesn't talk about any keyboard though it does imply that
sensitive controls could be used to create a virtual keyboard

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Old 03-21-2008, 12:14 AM
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iPhone News <invalid@nospam.net> amazed us all with the following in
news:invalid-504835.15051320032008@news.giganews.com:

> Apple's iPhone launch caused a wave of excitement that even now refuses
> to die down. The company is now planning to ride on this with a
> "clamshell iPhone". Yes, "clamshell iPhone" which will be smaller --
> likely half the size of the iPhone, but will take a couple of years to
> go to market.
>


Source?

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Old 03-21-2008, 12:25 AM
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iPhone News wrote:

> Yes, "clamshell iPhone" which will be smaller --
> likely half the size of the iPhone



And fanboi-fingers are expected to evolve to half the size, with
visual acuity morphing to resolve a postage stamp-sized display.

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Old 03-21-2008, 02:47 AM
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The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote:

> Source?


http://www.techtree.com/India/News/A...l_iPhone/551-8
7835-615.html

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Old 03-21-2008, 03:23 AM
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In article <Xns9A67AF59534CEbob@216.196.97.136>, The Bob
<nospam@bob.com> wrote:

> iPhone News <invalid@nospam.net> amazed us all with the following in
> news:invalid-504835.15051320032008@news.giganews.com:
>
> > Apple's iPhone launch caused a wave of excitement that even now refuses
> > to die down. The company is now planning to ride on this with a
> > "clamshell iPhone". Yes, "clamshell iPhone" which will be smaller --
> > likely half the size of the iPhone, but will take a couple of years to
> > go to market.

>
> Source?


The source is a so-called "reporter" who is simply guessing based on a
recent patent filed by Apple that shows a multi-touchscreen, folding
device - a device that looks more like a Nintendo DS, so no doubt an
Apple pocket gaming system rumour is floating around too.
Patent story on MacRumours: http://tinyurl.com/yo7z2r

Apple files numerous patents every year and few of them result in
actual products. It's simply part of their normal R&D cycle and
safe-guarding their "discoveries".

A "clamshell iPhone" is purely web-rumour at this stage, and hopefully
stays that way (personally I dislike clamshell phones, people using
them always look like Captain Kirk wannabes).

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Old 03-21-2008, 03:31 AM
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Anybody <anybody@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in news:210320081423088188%
anybody@anywhere-anytime.com:

> (personally I dislike clamshell phones, people using
> them always look like Captain Kirk wannabes)


You don't like our captain?......

A couple of clamshells could be made to make the Star Trek Communicator
contact sound...(c;

It was logical for me to like Spock the best.....


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Old 03-21-2008, 04:14 AM
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Previously on alt.cellular.cingular, Anybody said:

> stays that way (personally I dislike clamshell phones, people using
> them always look like Captain Kirk wannabes).


Personally, I prefer them. It keeps the screens safe and prevents the
buttons from being pressed while in pockets without having to $pend
extra on protectors and cases.

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Old 03-21-2008, 07:08 AM
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In article <Xns9A67E5F3B2E05noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>, Larry
<noone@home.com> wrote:

> Anybody <anybody@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in news:210320081423088188%
> anybody@anywhere-anytime.com:
>
> > (personally I dislike clamshell phones, people using
> > them always look like Captain Kirk wannabes)

>
> You don't like our captain?......
>
> A couple of clamshells could be made to make the Star Trek Communicator
> contact sound...(c;
>
> It was logical for me to like Spock the best.....


It's the never-ending stream of twits who STILL think it's funny (and
original) to flip their phone open and say something like "Beam me up
Scotty". :-\

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Old 03-21-2008, 02:56 PM
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Anybody <anybody@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in news:210320081808208761%
anybody@anywhere-anytime.com:

> It's the never-ending stream of twits who STILL think it's funny (and
> original) to flip their phone open and say something like "Beam me up
> Scotty". :-\
>


I always like to watch the shocked look on their faces, in the mall, when I
dematerialize and disappear right before their eyes. You can see it just
before the transition as the noise from the transporter grabs their
attention.


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Old 03-21-2008, 04:31 PM
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At 21 Mar 2008 18:08:20 +1200 Anybody wrote:

> It's the never-ending stream of twits who STILL think it's funny (and
> original) to flip their phone open and say something like "Beam me up
> Scotty". :-\




Then I probably shouldn't admit my ringtone is the "woo-wheeee-woo" bosun
whistle sound effect from the original series' ship's intercom? (Sure, the
'beep beep' or chirps of the communicator would be more authentic, but
you'd never hear them in a loud room!)

(And, for the record, I don't use a flip phone or ever uttered the words
"Beam me up" into a cellphone.)


Discovery Channel aired a cute documentary a couple of years ago called
"How William Shatner Changed the World," starring the man himself, that
(very tongue and cheekly) made the case that most modern day technology
(like the Motorola flip phone) was inspired by, or copied from, Star Trek.



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Old 03-21-2008, 06:32 PM
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In article <vs96u31upndom45abec7njajsiia7l8tsa@gordol.org>,
Jeffrey Kaplan <nomail@gordol.org> wrote:

> Previously on alt.cellular.cingular, Anybody said:
>
> > stays that way (personally I dislike clamshell phones, people using
> > them always look like Captain Kirk wannabes).

>
> Personally, I prefer them. It keeps the screens safe and prevents the
> buttons from being pressed while in pockets without having to $pend
> extra on protectors and cases.


I never have had that problem with my iPhone. It was designed to prevent
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Old 03-21-2008, 07:05 PM
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In article <Xns9A67E5F3B2E05noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> Anybody <anybody@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in news:210320081423088188%
> anybody@anywhere-anytime.com:
>
> > (personally I dislike clamshell phones, people using
> > them always look like Captain Kirk wannabes)

>
> You don't like our captain?......
>
> A couple of clamshells could be made to make the Star Trek Communicator
> contact sound...(c;
>
> It was logical for me to like Spock the best.....


This might be for all you guys:

http://www.instructables.com/id/Crea...ator-edition-R
AZR/

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Old 03-21-2008, 07:47 PM
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"Kurt" <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in message
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> This might be for all you guys:
>
> http://www.instructables.com/id/Crea...ator-edition-R
> AZR/


I'm a geek, but I'm not THAT much of a geek!

Besides- my WinMo phone looks more like a tricorder than a communicator...
(and not just because it's stinking huge!)






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Old 03-21-2008, 07:52 PM
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"Kurt" <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Personally, I prefer them. It keeps the screens safe and prevents the
>> buttons from being pressed while in pockets without having to $pend
>> extra on protectors and cases.

>
> I never have had that problem with my iPhone. It was designed to prevent
> that.


Partially by being so large there's no room for anything ELSE in the same
pocket to damage it!




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Old 03-21-2008, 10:31 PM
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Previously on alt.cellular.cingular, Todd Allcock said:

> > I never have had that problem with my iPhone. It was designed to prevent
> > that.

>
> Partially by being so large there's no room for anything ELSE in the same
> pocket to damage it!


The Treo is bigger.

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Old 03-22-2008, 12:37 AM
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In article <fs0mfd$4lc$1@aioe.org>, Todd Allcock
<elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:

> At 21 Mar 2008 18:08:20 +1200 Anybody wrote:
>
> > It's the never-ending stream of twits who STILL think it's funny (and
> > original) to flip their phone open and say something like "Beam me up
> > Scotty". :-\

>
> Then I probably shouldn't admit my ringtone is the "woo-wheeee-woo" bosun
> whistle sound effect from the original series' ship's intercom? (Sure, the
> 'beep beep' or chirps of the communicator would be more authentic, but
> you'd never hear them in a loud room!)
>
> (And, for the record, I don't use a flip phone or ever uttered the words
> "Beam me up" into a cellphone.)
>
>
> Discovery Channel aired a cute documentary a couple of years ago called
> "How William Shatner Changed the World," starring the man himself, that
> (very tongue and cheekly) made the case that most modern day technology
> (like the Motorola flip phone) was inspired by, or copied from, Star Trek.


I don't watch the show, but there were promo adverts playing here this
week for Boston Legal that had a clip of Shatner's character opening a
flip-phone with Star Trek communicator noises.

They should then have had the next scene with Shanks' (who Shatner was
calling) phone ring with the Stargate movie theme.

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Old 03-22-2008, 01:24 AM
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In article <duTEj.39735$C%3.26936@fe111.usenetserver.com>,
"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:

> "Kurt" <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in message
> news:labolide-0B466E.10320621032008@news.giganews.com...
>
> >> Personally, I prefer them. It keeps the screens safe and prevents the
> >> buttons from being pressed while in pockets without having to $pend
> >> extra on protectors and cases.

> >
> > I never have had that problem with my iPhone. It was designed to prevent
> > that.

>
> Partially by being so large there's no room for anything ELSE in the same
> pocket to damage it!


What you see in pictures can be deceptive. LOL

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In article <28a8u3dl3e911hn7fqa26skte2epuqug12@gordol.org>,
Jeffrey Kaplan <nomail@gordol.org> wrote:

> Previously on alt.cellular.cingular, Todd Allcock said:
>
> > > I never have had that problem with my iPhone. It was designed to prevent
> > > that.

> >
> > Partially by being so large there's no room for anything ELSE in the same
> > pocket to damage it!

>
> The Treo is bigger.


I think most phones are at least fatter.
What phone out there is actually thinner? Without case, of course (no
external case on mine- Invisi-shield)

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Old 03-22-2008, 02:24 AM
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Previously on alt.cellular.cingular, Kurt said:

> > The Treo is bigger.

> I think most phones are at least fatter.
> What phone out there is actually thinner? Without case, of course (no
> external case on mine- Invisi-shield)


In the same class? At least one Blackberry is smaller overall.

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Old 03-22-2008, 02:39 AM
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"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in
news:xpTEj.39733$C%3.16914@fe111.usenetserver.com:

> Besides- my WinMo phone looks more like a tricorder than a
> communicator... (and not just because it's stinking huge!)
>
>
>


It has blinking lights and an egg vibrator on a cord??


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Old 03-22-2008, 03:02 AM
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"Jeffrey Kaplan" <nomail@gordol.org> wrote in message
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> Previously on alt.cellular.cingular, Todd Allcock said:
>
>> > I never have had that problem with my iPhone. It was designed to
>> > prevent
>> > that.

>>
>> Partially by being so large there's no room for anything ELSE in the same
>> pocket to damage it!

>
> The Treo is bigger.


Thinner, anyway. I wouldn't really consider the Treo very "pocketable"
either.

Look, I'm a fan of "big" phones. Face it- the iPhone is a BIG phone, to
accomodate it's big display. That's an ADVANTAGE in my view- not a
disadvantage. I carry a brick myself- my HTC Wizard is nearly an inch
thick- well over an inch if I slap the extended battery pack on it.
However, since my first phone was an old analog Radio Shack (Nokia) handheld
patterned after the Motorola Ultra Classic that I bought in the early 90's,
(it was larger than a VHS tape, not even including the six-inch rubber
antenna!) it's hard for me to consider any modern phone "big" or "heavy"
after using some of the early analog handhelds I've lugged around!



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Old 03-22-2008, 04:42 AM
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At 22 Mar 2008 01:39:34 +0000 Larry wrote:

> > Besides- my WinMo phone looks more like a tricorder than a
> > communicator... (and not just because it's stinking huge!)

>
>
> It has blinking lights and an egg vibrator on a cord??



Yes to the blinking lights- flashing green for GSM, yellow for WiFi and
blue for bluetooth.

While we 're off on this nostalgic tangent, even as a kid I could never
understand how Spock could figure out what data was on those square plastic
UNLABELED memory chips they shoved into the ship computer. He'd shuffle a
stack of red, yellow and orange blank squares, pick one, scrutinize it's
empty face and say "the star chart for the Denebian Sector..." and plug it
in.

Perhaps the label was written in ultraviolet, infrared, or some other color
only Vulcan eyes could see... ;-)




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At 21 Mar 2008 20:02:32 -0600 Todd Allcock wrote:

> > The Treo is bigger.

>
> Thinner, anyway. I wouldn't really consider the Treo very "pocketable"
> either.



Ooops! I meant the Treo is thicker! Sorry!


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Old 03-22-2008, 04:49 PM
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Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in
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> Perhaps the label was written in ultraviolet, infrared, or some other
> color only Vulcan eyes could see... ;-)
>
>


Nope. When he was holding it in his hand, he mind melded with it so he
could see what it contained.....in his logical mind....(c;

He didn't need "HUMAN" labels.


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Old 03-24-2008, 03:45 PM
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In article <0in8u39p996e9rtuk8k26lkgdni3pnbj6q@gordol.org>,
Jeffrey Kaplan <nomail@gordol.org> wrote:

> Previously on alt.cellular.cingular, Kurt said:
>
> > > The Treo is bigger.

> > I think most phones are at least fatter.
> > What phone out there is actually thinner? Without case, of course (no
> > external case on mine- Invisi-shield)

>
> In the same class? At least one Blackberry is smaller overall.

Yes.
So none thinner?
Thinner is the key. iPhone easier to slip in and out of pocket. Treo was
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In article <fs22aq$gss$3@aioe.org>,
Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:

> At 21 Mar 2008 20:02:32 -0600 Todd Allcock wrote:
>
> > > The Treo is bigger.

> >
> > Thinner, anyway. I wouldn't really consider the Treo very "pocketable"
> > either.

>
>
> Ooops! I meant the Treo is thicker! Sorry!


I could never easily carry my Treo in my pocket. Plus, lint stuck to all
the nooks and crannies.

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Previously on alt.cellular.cingular, Kurt said:

> > In the same class? At least one Blackberry is smaller overall.

> Yes.
> So none thinner?
> Thinner is the key. iPhone easier to slip in and out of pocket. Treo was
> bulky.


I think the Moto Q is thinner.

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Per Kurt:
>I could never easily carry my Treo in my pocket. Plus, lint stuck to all
>the nooks and crannies.


Since breaking the belt hook on my iPod's holder, I've been
carrying it in my pocket.

Always careful to never carry change or keys in that pocket - in
fact there's *never* anything in the pocket except the iPod, my
cell phone, and or my PalmPilot.

In that time the screen has gone from a few marks here and there
to more-or-less totally marked up. In fact, a little longer and
I think all the marks may merge into a frosted glass effect.
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Old 03-25-2008, 03:46 AM
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In article <4kjgu3h531cr75d3f12ejpf9fqom6sal31@4ax.com>,
"(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote:

> Per Kurt:
> >I could never easily carry my Treo in my pocket. Plus, lint stuck to all
> >the nooks and crannies.

>
> Since breaking the belt hook on my iPod's holder, I've been
> carrying it in my pocket.
>
> Always careful to never carry change or keys in that pocket - in
> fact there's *never* anything in the pocket except the iPod, my
> cell phone, and or my PalmPilot.
>
> In that time the screen has gone from a few marks here and there
> to more-or-less totally marked up. In fact, a little longer and
> I think all the marks may merge into a frosted glass effect.


That's why I bought the Invisibleshield when I bought my iPhone. No
marks on mine. Always in the pocket, too. Plus, the coating resists all
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