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Old 05-03-2007, 10:07 PM
Robert A. Fink, M. D.
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Default Data Connect North America

A follow up on some previous questions which I asked here a few weeks
ago.

I am getting ready to go to Cancun for a week later this month. I
have spoken with the Cingular people about data connection there and I
apparently have two possibilities.

1. "Standard" connection (GPRS) using my 3G card at 2 cents a KB of
data. This is $20.00 (US) a megabyte!

2. "Data Connect North America" which gives me unlimited data
transmission in the USA and up to 100MB/month in Canada and Mexico
with an "overage charge" after that (I forget what that is, but 100MB
should be enough for me during the 10 days or so that I will need the
service. The price for this plan is $109.00/month (I am currently
paying $60/month for my present Laptop Connect service, so this would
be $49/month extra. The kicker, however, is that I have to take the
plan for a year, otherwise I will have to pay a $175 "termination
fee".

Sounds like neither of these options is very attractive, but it is
necessary that I have data access while traveling. I am going to
follow my inbox activity for the next few days to see just how many
KB/MB I receive during a "normal" period and that may be the way that
I can determine whether I am justified in the expense. I figured that
it will cost me about $600 extra per year to take on the "North
America" service (or $175 to terminate it).

Any other ideas? It sounds as if Cingular/ATT has folks by the short
hairs.....


Best,

Bob

Robert A. Fink, M. D., FACS, P. C.
Neurological Surgery
2500 Milvia Street Suite 222
Berkeley, CA 94704-2636 USA
510-849-2555

"Ex Tristitia Virtus"

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Old 05-04-2007, 12:15 AM
John Navas
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On Thu, 03 May 2007 15:07:37 -0700, "Robert A. Fink, M. D."
<lynxer@comcast.net> wrote in
<vjlk331cc4o7rbqblp5psp598rr1v0lift@4ax.com>:

>2. "Data Connect North America" which gives me unlimited data
>transmission in the USA and up to 100MB/month in Canada and Mexico
>with an "overage charge" after that (I forget what that is, but 100MB
>should be enough for me during the 10 days or so that I will need the
>service. The price for this plan is $109.00/month (I am currently
>paying $60/month for my present Laptop Connect service, so this would
>be $49/month extra. The kicker, however, is that I have to take the
>plan for a year, otherwise I will have to pay a $175 "termination
>fee".


Per Cancellations/Early Termination Fee in the Terms and Conditions
<http://www.cingular.com/b2b/downloads/terms_wirelessDataService.pdf>,
you should be able to cancel without penalty within 30 days, paying only
for the month you used.

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John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

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Old 05-04-2007, 12:15 AM
Todd Allcock
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Default Re: Data Connect North America

At 03 May 2007 15:07:37 -0700 Robert A. Fink, M. D. wrote:

> Sounds like neither of these options is very attractive, but it is
> necessary that I have data access while traveling. I am going to
> follow my inbox activity for the next few days to see just how many
> KB/MB I receive during a "normal" period and that may be the way that
> I can determine whether I am justified in the expense. I figured that
> it will cost me about $600 extra per year to take on the "North
> America" service (or $175 to terminate it).



Which means about $300 total ($109 for the month plus ETF and taxes.)
Certainly cheaper than carrying the NA plan for a year unless you'll be
making multiple trips to Mexico or Canada.


> Any other ideas? It sounds as if Cingular/ATT has folks by the short
> hairs.....


I'm not sure that's fair. Cingular doesn't operate a network in Mexico.
They pay a wholesale roaming rate to Telcel or Movistar for their
customers roaming in Mexico, then mark it up and pass it on to you. I
was as frustrated as you are now with the options available when I
visited Cancun in January. You might consider a two-pronged approach-
use the $20/mb rate and set your e-mail program to download headers-only
so you can manually retrieve just the most important ones to reply to,
and switch to the overpriced resort hotel's wi-fi if you need to download
large files and attachments, or do any long web sessions. (Wi-fi is
usually available in several packages- my hotel sold it in 15 min., 30 min.
and hourly bundles, usable over a 24-hour period- i.e. you could buy an
hour but log on for just a few minutes repeatedly over the course of a day,
or you could buy a full day. At Crown Paradise they charged $7 for 15
minutes, $11 for 30, $17 for an hour and $35/day, IIRC. I only needed to
deal with e-mail once a day, so I'd typically buy 15 or 30 minutes,
download my e-mail, disconnect, reply "off the clock" and log back on to
send my collective replies. (It took me back to the "good old days" of
$6/hour a-la-carte Compuserve dial-up plans!)

By timing it right, I could get two days out of a bundle (i.e. download
Monday's e-mail at 8PM, then download Tuesday's earlier- like at 6 or 7pm
and get my replies out before the 24-hour "window" ended at 8PM. I
just bought a couple of half-hours and used them this way. My wi-fi tab
for my week there was only about $30 or $40 IIRC.

Given what a week in Cancun costs, whatever you do, I doubt the data will
be the most expensive part of the stay! ;-)

Good luck and enjoy the trip!


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Old 05-04-2007, 08:32 PM
Robert A. Fink, M. D.
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On Fri, 04 May 2007 00:15:57 GMT, John Navas
<spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:

>Per Cancellations/Early Termination Fee in the Terms and Conditions
><http://www.cingular.com/b2b/downloads/terms_wirelessDataService.pdf>,
>you should be able to cancel without penalty within 30 days, paying only
>for the month you used.



John,

That's not what they said on the phone, nor is it what was said on the
above site:

-------------------------------------------------------------

DATACONNECT NORTH AMERICA AND DATACONNECT GLOBAL PLANS: Available
countries, coverage and participating international carriers included
in the “Select Canada/Mexico
Roam Zone” and/or “Select International Roam Zone” vary from our
generally available
Canada/international data roam zones and may not be as extensive.
Voice access is restricted
and prohibited. DataConnect North America Includes up to 100MB of data
usage in the “Select
Canada/Mexico Roam Zone” per month. Select Canada/Mexico Roam Zone is
restricted to select
carrier(s) and coverage areas within Canada and Mexico. See
www.cingular.com/dataconnectglobal for a current list of participating
carriers and eligible roam
zones. Additional data usage in the Select Canada/Mexico Roam Zone is
charged at: $0.005/KB.
Standard international roaming rates apply to international data usage
outside of Canada and
Mexico. Under this plan, you will be restricted from accessing Service
through any nonparticipating
Canada/Mexico carriers that may otherwise be included in our generally
available
Canada and international data roam zones. Requires minimum one-year
agreement and you
must remain on eligible DataConnect North America plan for a minimum
one-year term.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

I wouldn't mind paying the extra $50/month for a couple of months, but
a year's worth is too much.

I hope that the "High Speed Internet" supplied by the hotel (at a
small charge) will get me onto the 'Net and thus, I may not need the
Cingular connection (for data).


Best,

Bob

Robert A. Fink, M. D., FACS, P. C.
Neurological Surgery
2500 Milvia Street Suite 222
Berkeley, CA 94704-2636 USA
510-849-2555

"Ex Tristitia Virtus"

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Old 05-07-2007, 04:47 PM
John Navas
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On Fri, 04 May 2007 13:32:48 -0700, "Robert A. Fink, M. D."
<lynxer@comcast.net> wrote in
<gj5n33dhk7ufnemejsuci4f83ii9q22u76@4ax.com>:

>On Fri, 04 May 2007 00:15:57 GMT, John Navas
><spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>>Per Cancellations/Early Termination Fee in the Terms and Conditions
>><http://www.cingular.com/b2b/downloads/terms_wirelessDataService.pdf>,
>>you should be able to cancel without penalty within 30 days, paying only
>>for the month you used.


>That's not what they said on the phone, nor is it what was said on the
>above site:
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------
>
>DATACONNECT NORTH AMERICA AND DATACONNECT GLOBAL PLANS: Available
>[SNIP]


That's subject to this clause:

Cancellations/Early Termination Fee: An Early Termination Fee of $175
may be assessed against you in the event that you terminate your
Wireless Service Agreement and/or selected plan before the expiration
of its term. YOU MAY CANCEL YOUR SERVICE, FOR ANY REASON AND WITHOUT
INCURRING THE EARLY TERMINATION FEE, WITHIN THIRTY (30) DAYS OF
SIGNING YOUR WIRELESS SERVICE AGREEMENT, PROVIDED, however, that if
you cancel service you will remain responsible for any service fees
and charges incurred. [emphasis added]

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Old 05-08-2007, 09:10 PM
Dennis Ferguson
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Default Re: Data Connect North America

On 2007-05-04, Robert A. Fink, M. D. <lynxer@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 04 May 2007 00:15:57 GMT, John Navas
><spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>>Per Cancellations/Early Termination Fee in the Terms and Conditions
>><http://www.cingular.com/b2b/downloads/terms_wirelessDataService.pdf>,
>>you should be able to cancel without penalty within 30 days, paying only
>>for the month you used.

>
>
> That's not what they said on the phone, nor is it what was said on the
> above site:


If you can't do a 30-day cancellation with Cingular you could try it
with Sprint:

http://www1.sprintpcs.com/explore/ue...c=wirelessData

The coverage map shows EVDO coverage in Cancun, that'll be significantly
higher speed than the GSM service.

Dennis Ferguson

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