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Old 11-02-2007, 02:54 PM
Bob
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Default Dataconnect plans

I was wondering, how much data would I be allowed to use on a
DataConnect plan. Is there some "hidden" limit where you get in
trouble if you use the card too much?

I'm thinking about getting the 881 Aircard, but I'm concerned too that
the max speeds they publish may not be achievable. Is it true that
cell sites only have one T1, and that I'm going to be limited by the
speed of the T1?


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Old 11-02-2007, 04:38 PM
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"Bob" <shmget@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1194011649.418761.287700@o3g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
>I was wondering, how much data would I be allowed to use on a
> DataConnect plan. Is there some "hidden" limit where you get in
> trouble if you use the card too much?
>
> I'm thinking about getting the 881 Aircard, but I'm concerned too that
> the max speeds they publish may not be achievable. Is it true that
> cell sites only have one T1, and that I'm going to be limited by the
> speed of the T1?
>

If you get T1 speed, let me know. I chose Sprint over ATT as at that time
ATT's cost was to high. The connect speeds vary with time of day, signal
strength, and tower traffic.



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Old 11-02-2007, 04:51 PM
Todd H.
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Bob <shmget@msn.com> writes:

> I was wondering, how much data would I be allowed to use on a
> DataConnect plan. Is there some "hidden" limit where you get in
> trouble if you use the card too much?
>
> I'm thinking about getting the 881 Aircard, but I'm concerned too that
> the max speeds they publish may not be achievable. Is it true that
> cell sites only have one T1, and that I'm going to be limited by the
> speed of the T1?



I get about a meg down and 368k up with 3G coverage tethered to my
8925. It seems plauible to me that certain cell sites might only have
T1, aprticularly when some cell sites may also only be capable
of EDGE rather than HSDPA data rates anyway.

I have the $60/mo laptop connect unlimited data plan. The terms of
service prohibit several things (none of which aren't common sense for
a wireless mobile internet provider to restrict), so if you plan on
parking on bittorrent all day long and seeding, that'd probably be one
way to get yourself cancelled.

Side by side with a coworker's Sprint card in Rosemont, IL recently,
the AT&T 3G coverage left his EVDO totally in the dust. But, Sprint
seems to rather suck the big one in Chicagoland for both voice and
data.

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Old 11-02-2007, 05:01 PM
Todd H.
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t@toddh.net (Todd H.) writes:

> Bob <shmget@msn.com> writes:
>
> > I was wondering, how much data would I be allowed to use on a
> > DataConnect plan. Is there some "hidden" limit where you get in
> > trouble if you use the card too much?
> >
> > I'm thinking about getting the 881 Aircard, but I'm concerned too that
> > the max speeds they publish may not be achievable. Is it true that
> > cell sites only have one T1, and that I'm going to be limited by the
> > speed of the T1?

>
>
> I get about a meg down and 368k up with 3G coverage tethered to my
> 8925. It seems plauible to me that certain cell sites might only have
> T1, aprticularly when some cell sites may also only be capable
> of EDGE rather than HSDPA data rates anyway.
>
> I have the $60/mo laptop connect unlimited data plan. The terms of
> service prohibit several things (none of which aren't common sense for
> a wireless mobile internet provider to restrict), so if you plan on
> parking on bittorrent all day long and seeding, that'd probably be one
> way to get yourself cancelled.
>
> Side by side with a coworker's Sprint card in Rosemont, IL recently,
> the AT&T 3G coverage left his EVDO totally in the dust. But, Sprint
> seems to rather suck the big one in Chicagoland for both voice and
> data.


Oh, Bob, you also get a 30 day return on new lines, so you can jump in
and give it a try without too much risk. I was concerned about the
performance too when I recently got my AT&T Tilt.

The other way to try it out is if you happen to already have a phone
that is 3G capable on teh data side, you can just add the tethering
data feature to that line. MOst of the data capable phones can
interface to the computer via USB (or bluetooth) where the computer
sees the device as a high-speed modem. The Razr V3xx is one such
phone, for instance.

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Old 11-02-2007, 06:00 PM
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On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:54:09 -0000, Bob <shmget@msn.com> wrote in
<1194011649.418761.287700@o3g2000hsb.googlegroups. com>:

>I was wondering, how much data would I be allowed to use on a
>DataConnect plan. Is there some "hidden" limit where you get in
>trouble if you use the card too much?


I use a great deal of data from time to time (hundreds of megabytes)
without complaint. I doubt you would either unless you run P2P
filesharing or a high-activity server.

>I'm thinking about getting the 881 Aircard, but I'm concerned too that
>the max speeds they publish may not be achievable. Is it true that
>cell sites only have one T1, and that I'm going to be limited by the
>speed of the T1?


My own experience is that I almost always get good DSL-like throughput
on "3G" (HSDPA) connections, often better than what I can get in public
Wi-Fi hotspots.

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Old 11-03-2007, 11:11 PM
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Bob wrote:
> I was wondering, how much data would I be allowed to use on a
> DataConnect plan. Is there some "hidden" limit where you get in
> trouble if you use the card too much?


If you have the unlimited data plan, then unlimited means
unlimited...UNLESS they claim it violates the impairment of the network
clause in the TOS.

Some DSL and cable providers have been getting on to heavy downloaders.
They took Verizon to court claiming it was not in the TOS. But the
providers can always fall back on the "impairment of the network" spin.

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Old 11-04-2007, 04:53 AM
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Bob <shmget@msn.com> writes:

> I was wondering, how much data would I be allowed to use on a
> DataConnect plan. Is there some "hidden" limit where you get in
> trouble if you use the card too much?


As to your queestion of hidden limitations, here are the terms and
conditions of the data plan. There are several of em. You can bet
that if your numbers are consitently very high, you'll be scrutinized
as to what exactly your traffic looks like vs this list of no no's.



Prohibited and Permissible Uses: Data Service sessions may be
conducted only for the following purposes: (i) Interner browsing; (ii)
email; and (iii) corporate intranet access (including access to
corporate email, customer relationship management, sales force
automation, and field service automation applications). PROHIBITED
USES INCLUDE, BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO, USING SERVICES: (I) WITH SERVER
DEVICES OR WITH HOST COMPUTER APPLICATIONS, INCLUDING, WITHOUT
LIMITATION, WEB CAMERA POSTS OR BROADCASTS, CONTINUOUS JPEG FILE
TRANSFERS, AUTOMATIC DATA FEEDS, TELEMETRY APPLICATIONS, PEER-TO-PEER
(P2P) FILE SHARING, AUTOMATED FUNCTIONS OR ANY OTHER
MACHINE-TO-MACHINE APPLICATIONS; (II) AS SUBSTITUTE OR BACKUP FOR
PRIVATE LINES OR DEDICATED DATA CONNECTIONS; (III) FOR VOICE OVER IP;
(IV) IN CONJUNCTION WITH WWAN OR OTHER APPLICATIONS OR DEVICES WHICH
AGGREGATE USAGE FROM MULTIPLE SOURCES PRIOR TO TRANSMISSION; (V) USING
THE SERVICES FOR ANY ACTIVITY THAT ADVERSELY AFFECTS THE ABILITY OF
OTHER PEOPLE OR SYSTEMS TO USE EITHER THE SERVICES OR OTHER PARTIES'
INTERNET-BASED RESOURCES INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO EXCESSIVE
CONSUMPTION OF NETWORK OR SYSTEM RESOURCES (WHETHER INTENTIONAL OR
UNINTENTIONAL) AND "DENIAL OF SERVICE" (DOS) ATTACKS AGAINST ANOTHER
NETWORK HOST OR INDIVIDUAL USER; OR (VI) INTERFERENCE WITH OR
DISRUPTION OF OTHER NETWORK USERS, NETWORK SERVICES OR NETWORK
EQUIPMENT. EXCEPT FOR CONTENT FORMATTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH AT&T'S
WIRELESS CONTENT STANDARDS, UNLIMITED PLANS CANNOT BE USED FOR
UPLOADING, DOWNLOADING OR STREAMING OF VIDEO CONTENT (E.G. MOVIES,
TV), MUSIC OR GAMES. FURTHERMORE, UNLIMITED PLANS (EXCEPT FOR
DATACONNECT AND BLACKBERRY TETHERED) CANNOT BE USED FOR ANY
APPLICATIONS THAT TETHER THE DEVICE (THROUGH USE OF, INCLUDING WITHOUT
LIMITATION, CONNECTION KITS, OTHER PHONE/PDA-TO-COMPUTER ACCESSORIES,
BLUETOOTH OR ANY OTHER WIRELESS TECHNOLOGY) TO LAPTOPS, PCS, OR OTHER
EQUIPMENT FOR ANY PURPOSE."

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