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Old 10-30-2006, 03:44 PM
JCorsica
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Default Does Nokia 6340i GAIT phone require $5 TDMA surcharge?

I am currently an AT&T customer with Nokia 6310 TDMA phone and $5/mo
surcharge.

I am ready to switch to a new Cingular plan. I need Nokia bar phone format
for my (excellent) car hands free system, but current Nokia phones (6030
bar, 6102 flip) don't fit the hands free, and cannot be adapted.

I have sourced an unlocked 6310i from UK which provides GSM 900/1800/1900,
and have tested it in Cingular store. Agent indicated no problems to get a
6030 and use the sim card in the 6310i.

If I get an unlocked 6340i phone (GSM 850/1900, TDMA, AMPS) will I have to
pay the $5 surcharge to use it?

Is the TDMA surcharge also on AMPS useage?

Can I have the TDMA "disabled" by Cingular and the charge removed?

The 6340i looks better for coverage than 6310i as it has AMPS and GSM 850.

Thanks for any help!



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Old 10-30-2006, 04:42 PM
Todd H.
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Default Re: Does Nokia 6340i GAIT phone require $5 TDMA surcharge?

"JCorsica" <jcorsica@hotmail.com> writes:

> I am currently an AT&T customer with Nokia 6310 TDMA phone and $5/mo
> surcharge.
>
> I am ready to switch to a new Cingular plan. I need Nokia bar phone format
> for my (excellent) car hands free system, but current Nokia phones (6030
> bar, 6102 flip) don't fit the hands free, and cannot be adapted.
>
> I have sourced an unlocked 6310i from UK which provides GSM 900/1800/1900,
> and have tested it in Cingular store. Agent indicated no problems to get a
> 6030 and use the sim card in the 6310i.
>
> If I get an unlocked 6340i phone (GSM 850/1900, TDMA, AMPS) will I have to
> pay the $5 surcharge to use it?
>
> Is the TDMA surcharge also on AMPS useage?
>
> Can I have the TDMA "disabled" by Cingular and the charge removed?
>
> The 6340i looks better for coverage than 6310i as it has AMPS and GSM 850.
>
> Thanks for any help!


For what it's worth, I've been on a GSM plan for a while now. My GAIT
phone works fine when I drop my SIM into it.

In an AMPS or TDMA only coverage area (if any), it probably won't fall
back to either of those modes I'm guessing. Otherwise, I suspect
it'll work fine.

You may want to borrow a GSM only phone if you need to deal with a
Cingular drone face to face though.


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Old 10-31-2006, 12:42 AM
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Default Re: Does Nokia 6340i GAIT phone require $5 TDMA surcharge?

JCorsica wrote:
> I am currently an AT&T customer with Nokia 6310 TDMA phone and $5/mo
> surcharge.
>
> I am ready to switch to a new Cingular plan. I need Nokia bar phone format
> for my (excellent) car hands free system, but current Nokia phones (6030
> bar, 6102 flip) don't fit the hands free, and cannot be adapted.
>
> I have sourced an unlocked 6310i from UK which provides GSM 900/1800/1900,
> and have tested it in Cingular store. Agent indicated no problems to get a
> 6030 and use the sim card in the 6310i.
>
> If I get an unlocked 6340i phone (GSM 850/1900, TDMA, AMPS) will I have to
> pay the $5 surcharge to use it?
>
> Is the TDMA surcharge also on AMPS useage?
>
> Can I have the TDMA "disabled" by Cingular and the charge removed?
>
> The 6340i looks better for coverage than 6310i as it has AMPS and GSM 850.
>
> Thanks for any help!
>
>



The Nokia 6340i GAIT phone would be exempt from the $5 surcharge if it
was equipped with a GSM only SIM - which would preclude it from falling
back to any non-GSM mode. I don't think Cingular will equip your
account for anything but GSM, so they're never going to ask you for the
ESN because they'll never need it. The other issue that comes to mind
is about the 64K SIM that current users have in newer phones... would
the 6340i even know what to do with one? And if not, would that even
matter?

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Old 10-31-2006, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: Does Nokia 6340i GAIT phone require $5 TDMA surcharge?

"JCorsica" <jcorsica@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d4CdnSJOrYxittvYnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>I am currently an AT&T customer with Nokia 6310 TDMA phone and $5/mo
>surcharge.
>
> I am ready to switch to a new Cingular plan. I need Nokia bar phone format
> for my (excellent) car hands free system, but current Nokia phones (6030
> bar, 6102 flip) don't fit the hands free, and cannot be adapted.
>
> I have sourced an unlocked 6310i from UK which provides GSM 900/1800/1900,
> and have tested it in Cingular store. Agent indicated no problems to get a
> 6030 and use the sim card in the 6310i.
>
> If I get an unlocked 6340i phone (GSM 850/1900, TDMA, AMPS) will I have to
> pay the $5 surcharge to use it?
>
> Is the TDMA surcharge also on AMPS useage?
>
> Can I have the TDMA "disabled" by Cingular and the charge removed?
>
> The 6340i looks better for coverage than 6310i as it has AMPS and GSM 850.
>
> Thanks for any help!
>


I believe that the Nokia 6340i is a called GAIT phone that works both TDMA
and GSM. My old contract Home-50 was considered a TDMA plan. Below is a
quote from a Cingular source:
'The reason GAIT phones are being treated as TDMA is that they appear on the
TDMA HLR (home location register) on the network. Once the TDMA HLRs get
retired, the remaining GAITs will get rehomes to the GSM HLR, but there will
be annoyances with GAITs that search for TDMA signals whenever the GSM
signal strength gets weak. It's something called a scan-lock cycle, when it
appears that the phone will not work'

I got a letter from Cingular in September regarding the monthly TDMA
surcharge and the ultimate end of TDMA in the near future.
I had a Nokia 6340i Gait phone (worked both TDMA and GSM). My plan was the
Home-50 (50 any time minutes) at $19.99 plus taxes etc. I was informed that
I would begin paying an extra $4.95 a month because I had a TDMA plan. I'm a
retiree and use a cell phone and I just want a reasonable plan. The letter
said that I could get a Nation 200 plan (200 anytime minutes and 1000
Night/weekend) if I signed up for a 2 year contract. This offer included
either a free Nokia 6030 or a 6102i for $29.99. I opted for the contarct and
6102i.




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Old 11-01-2006, 11:02 AM
JCorsica
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Default Re: Does Nokia 6340i GAIT phone require $5 TDMA surcharge?

That is what I was looking for.

Thanks to all who replied!

"Diceman" <buzz@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:wzO1h.43761$X11.40846@bignews7.bellsouth.net. ..
> "JCorsica" <jcorsica@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:d4CdnSJOrYxittvYnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>I am currently an AT&T customer with Nokia 6310 TDMA phone and $5/mo
>>surcharge.
>>
>> I am ready to switch to a new Cingular plan. I need Nokia bar phone
>> format
>> for my (excellent) car hands free system, but current Nokia phones (6030
>> bar, 6102 flip) don't fit the hands free, and cannot be adapted.
>>
>> I have sourced an unlocked 6310i from UK which provides GSM
>> 900/1800/1900,
>> and have tested it in Cingular store. Agent indicated no problems to get
>> a
>> 6030 and use the sim card in the 6310i.
>>
>> If I get an unlocked 6340i phone (GSM 850/1900, TDMA, AMPS) will I have
>> to
>> pay the $5 surcharge to use it?
>>
>> Is the TDMA surcharge also on AMPS useage?
>>
>> Can I have the TDMA "disabled" by Cingular and the charge removed?
>>
>> The 6340i looks better for coverage than 6310i as it has AMPS and GSM
>> 850.
>>
>> Thanks for any help!
>>

>
> I believe that the Nokia 6340i is a called GAIT phone that works both TDMA
> and GSM. My old contract Home-50 was considered a TDMA plan. Below is a
> quote from a Cingular source:
> 'The reason GAIT phones are being treated as TDMA is that they appear on
> the TDMA HLR (home location register) on the network. Once the TDMA HLRs
> get retired, the remaining GAITs will get rehomes to the GSM HLR, but
> there will be annoyances with GAITs that search for TDMA signals whenever
> the GSM signal strength gets weak. It's something called a scan-lock
> cycle, when it appears that the phone will not work'
>
> I got a letter from Cingular in September regarding the monthly TDMA
> surcharge and the ultimate end of TDMA in the near future.
> I had a Nokia 6340i Gait phone (worked both TDMA and GSM). My plan was the
> Home-50 (50 any time minutes) at $19.99 plus taxes etc. I was informed
> that I would begin paying an extra $4.95 a month because I had a TDMA
> plan. I'm a retiree and use a cell phone and I just want a reasonable
> plan. The letter said that I could get a Nation 200 plan (200 anytime
> minutes and 1000 Night/weekend) if I signed up for a 2 year contract. This
> offer included either a free Nokia 6030 or a 6102i for $29.99. I opted for
> the contarct and 6102i.
>
>
>




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