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Old 10-28-2006, 02:03 AM
gwtx2
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Default EDGE, PC Card and Cingular Proxy

Anyone know how to utilize Cingular's proxy server with a PC card/EDGE
network? I know how to connect to WAP (WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM), and I can
set the proxy in my browser to use proxy:wireless.cingular.com, port
80. But, when I connect to a website, like Google, the browser wants to
download a file type of wml. Other sites just display garbage on the
screen.

The reason I want to try this is because I get around 140-160 kbps on
my PC card, but 180-200 kbps on my phone. The phone utilizes the proxy.
The PC card is using ISP@CINGULARGPRS.COM.

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Old 10-28-2006, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: EDGE, PC Card and Cingular Proxy

On 27 Oct 2006 19:03:23 -0700, "gwtx2" <gwtx2@yahoo.com> wrote in
<1162001003.612024.77290@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.c om>:

>Anyone know how to utilize Cingular's proxy server with a PC card/EDGE
>network? I know how to connect to WAP (WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM), and I can
>set the proxy in my browser to use proxy:wireless.cingular.com, port
>80. But, when I connect to a website, like Google, the browser wants to
>download a file type of wml. Other sites just display garbage on the
>screen.


That because it's a WML/WAP proxy, which only works with a WAP browser
(e.g., Microsoft Mobile Explorer 3.0).

>The reason I want to try this is because I get around 140-160 kbps on
>my PC card, but 180-200 kbps on my phone. The phone utilizes the proxy.


The proxy shouldn't have any real bearing on network speed. What it
does is reduce the amount of data traffic.

The Google WAP proxy is an alternative that works better with regular
browsers.

>The PC card is using ISP@CINGULARGPRS.COM.


That would be faster with ISPDA@CINGULARGPRS.COM -- see Data
Acceleration in the FAQ below.

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Old 10-28-2006, 05:58 PM
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Default Re: EDGE, PC Card and Cingular Proxy


John Navas wrote:
> On 27 Oct 2006 19:03:23 -0700, "gwtx2" <gwtx2@yahoo.com> wrote in
> <1162001003.612024.77290@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.c om>:
>
> >Anyone know how to utilize Cingular's proxy server with a PC card/EDGE
> >network? I know how to connect to WAP (WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM), and I can
> >set the proxy in my browser to use proxy:wireless.cingular.com, port
> >80. But, when I connect to a website, like Google, the browser wants to
> >download a file type of wml. Other sites just display garbage on the
> >screen.

>
> That because it's a WML/WAP proxy, which only works with a WAP browser
> (e.g., Microsoft Mobile Explorer 3.0).
>
> >The reason I want to try this is because I get around 140-160 kbps on
> >my PC card, but 180-200 kbps on my phone. The phone utilizes the proxy.

>
> The proxy shouldn't have any real bearing on network speed. What it
> does is reduce the amount of data traffic.
>
> The Google WAP proxy is an alternative that works better with regular
> browsers.
>
> >The PC card is using ISP@CINGULARGPRS.COM.

>
> That would be faster with ISPDA@CINGULARGPRS.COM -- see Data
> Acceleration in the FAQ below.
>
> --
> Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
> John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>


I've never noticed much of a difference when using ISPDA. You have any
statistics from your experience?


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Old 10-30-2006, 04:59 AM
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On 28 Oct 2006 10:58:13 -0700, "gwtx2" <gwtx2@yahoo.com> wrote in
<1162058292.959166.290080@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>:

>John Navas wrote:


>> That would be faster with ISPDA@CINGULARGPRS.COM -- see Data
>> Acceleration in the FAQ below.


>I've never noticed much of a difference when using ISPDA. You have any
>statistics from your experience?


<http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.ericsson/msg/988312e553e28415>

Cingular's Data Acceleration (DA) uses compression to improve the
throughput of web (HTTP) and email (POP3, IMAP) downlink traffic. The
primary benefit seems to come from greatly compressing graphics; the
visual result is significantly degraded, but still quite usable, and
the performane boost is substantial, on the order of 2x for typical
graphics-heavy web pages. In addition, compressible email attachments
larger than 8K bytes are compressed into .CAB files, which raise some
possible issues (e.g., with anti-virus scanning), but I personally
haven't found it to be a problem. Overall, DA works well enough that
I normally use it rather than a raw connection.

--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

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Old 10-30-2006, 08:18 PM
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Default Re: EDGE, PC Card and Cingular Proxy


John Navas wrote:
> On 28 Oct 2006 10:58:13 -0700, "gwtx2" <gwtx2@yahoo.com> wrote in
> <1162058292.959166.290080@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>:
>
> >John Navas wrote:

>
> >> That would be faster with ISPDA@CINGULARGPRS.COM -- see Data
> >> Acceleration in the FAQ below.

>
> >I've never noticed much of a difference when using ISPDA. You have any
> >statistics from your experience?

>
> <http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.ericsson/msg/988312e553e28415>
>
> Cingular's Data Acceleration (DA) uses compression to improve the
> throughput of web (HTTP) and email (POP3, IMAP) downlink traffic. The
> primary benefit seems to come from greatly compressing graphics; the
> visual result is significantly degraded, but still quite usable, and
> the performane boost is substantial, on the order of 2x for typical
> graphics-heavy web pages. In addition, compressible email attachments
> larger than 8K bytes are compressed into .CAB files, which raise some
> possible issues (e.g., with anti-virus scanning), but I personally
> haven't found it to be a problem. Overall, DA works well enough that
> I normally use it rather than a raw connection.
>
> --
> Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
> John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>


I don't see any difference at all in speed or in graphic resolution.
I'm using a Dial-up Network Connection and connecting to ISPDA. I've
also used the Sierra Watcher. Any other settings which need to happen?


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Old 10-30-2006, 10:36 PM
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On 30 Oct 2006 13:18:08 -0800, "gwtx2" <gwtx2@yahoo.com> wrote in
<1162243088.511880.310640@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>:

>John Navas wrote:
>> On 28 Oct 2006 10:58:13 -0700, "gwtx2" <gwtx2@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> <1162058292.959166.290080@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>:
>>
>> >John Navas wrote:

>>
>> >> That would be faster with ISPDA@CINGULARGPRS.COM -- see Data
>> >> Acceleration in the FAQ below.

>>
>> >I've never noticed much of a difference when using ISPDA. You have any
>> >statistics from your experience?

>>
>> <http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.ericsson/msg/988312e553e28415>
>>
>> Cingular's Data Acceleration (DA) uses compression to improve the
>> throughput of web (HTTP) and email (POP3, IMAP) downlink traffic. The
>> primary benefit seems to come from greatly compressing graphics; the
>> visual result is significantly degraded, but still quite usable, and
>> the performane boost is substantial, on the order of 2x for typical
>> graphics-heavy web pages. In addition, compressible email attachments
>> larger than 8K bytes are compressed into .CAB files, which raise some
>> possible issues (e.g., with anti-virus scanning), but I personally
>> haven't found it to be a problem. Overall, DA works well enough that
>> I normally use it rather than a raw connection.


>I don't see any difference at all in speed or in graphic resolution.
>I'm using a Dial-up Network Connection and connecting to ISPDA. I've
>also used the Sierra Watcher. Any other settings which need to happen?


DA works on GPRS/EGPRS(EDGE), not CSD.

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John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

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Old 10-31-2006, 03:22 PM
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John Navas wrote:
> On 30 Oct 2006 13:18:08 -0800, "gwtx2" <gwtx2@yahoo.com> wrote in
> <1162243088.511880.310640@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>:
>
> >John Navas wrote:
> >> On 28 Oct 2006 10:58:13 -0700, "gwtx2" <gwtx2@yahoo.com> wrote in
> >> <1162058292.959166.290080@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>:
> >>
> >> >John Navas wrote:
> >>
> >> >> That would be faster with ISPDA@CINGULARGPRS.COM -- see Data
> >> >> Acceleration in the FAQ below.
> >>
> >> >I've never noticed much of a difference when using ISPDA. You have any
> >> >statistics from your experience?
> >>
> >> <http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.ericsson/msg/988312e553e28415>
> >>
> >> Cingular's Data Acceleration (DA) uses compression to improve the
> >> throughput of web (HTTP) and email (POP3, IMAP) downlink traffic. The
> >> primary benefit seems to come from greatly compressing graphics; the
> >> visual result is significantly degraded, but still quite usable, and
> >> the performane boost is substantial, on the order of 2x for typical
> >> graphics-heavy web pages. In addition, compressible email attachments
> >> larger than 8K bytes are compressed into .CAB files, which raise some
> >> possible issues (e.g., with anti-virus scanning), but I personally
> >> haven't found it to be a problem. Overall, DA works well enough that
> >> I normally use it rather than a raw connection.

>
> >I don't see any difference at all in speed or in graphic resolution.
> >I'm using a Dial-up Network Connection and connecting to ISPDA. I've
> >also used the Sierra Watcher. Any other settings which need to happen?

>
> DA works on GPRS/EGPRS(EDGE), not CSD.
>
> --
> Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
> John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>


Correct. I'm not using CSD. It's a XP Dial-up connection using the
Sierra card as a modem, connecting to EDGE. Same performance as using
Watcher or Communications Manager.


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Old 10-31-2006, 03:57 PM
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On 30 Oct 2006 13:18:08 -0800, "gwtx2" <gwtx2@yahoo.com> wrote in
<1162243088.511880.310640@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>:

>John Navas wrote:
>> On 28 Oct 2006 10:58:13 -0700, "gwtx2" <gwtx2@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> <1162058292.959166.290080@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>:
>>
>> >John Navas wrote:

>>
>> >> That would be faster with ISPDA@CINGULARGPRS.COM -- see Data
>> >> Acceleration in the FAQ below.

>>
>> >I've never noticed much of a difference when using ISPDA. You have any
>> >statistics from your experience?

>>
>> <http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.ericsson/msg/988312e553e28415>
>>
>> Cingular's Data Acceleration (DA) uses compression to improve the
>> throughput of web (HTTP) and email (POP3, IMAP) downlink traffic. The
>> primary benefit seems to come from greatly compressing graphics; the
>> visual result is significantly degraded, but still quite usable, and
>> the performane boost is substantial, on the order of 2x for typical
>> graphics-heavy web pages. In addition, compressible email attachments
>> larger than 8K bytes are compressed into .CAB files, which raise some
>> possible issues (e.g., with anti-virus scanning), but I personally
>> haven't found it to be a problem. Overall, DA works well enough that
>> I normally use it rather than a raw connection.


>I don't see any difference at all in speed or in graphic resolution.
>I'm using a Dial-up Network Connection and connecting to ISPDA. I've
>also used the Sierra Watcher. Any other settings which need to happen?


The applicable settings are all in the FAQ below.

--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

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