I do a lot of email and have in the past used a Treo 650, Blackberry 8800,
and Blackjack and have been very satisfied with them all. Because of data
plan costs I am thinking of going to a conventional cell phone (let's not
debate data plan tricks).
I would like opions as to which phone would be best for email (cox cable,
pop3). Other than the obvious of giving up my qwerty keyboard (which in
itself may be a deal breaker) do any phones have better displays, menu
options, etc. that would make them better suited for email usage?
In article <gVkZh.23234$OT4.4318@newsfe19.lga>, "Fred" <none@abc.com>
wrote:
> I do a lot of email and have in the past used a Treo 650, Blackberry 8800,
> and Blackjack and have been very satisfied with them all. Because of data
> plan costs I am thinking of going to a conventional cell phone (let's not
> debate data plan tricks).
>
> I would like opions as to which phone would be best for email (cox cable,
> pop3). Other than the obvious of giving up my qwerty keyboard (which in
> itself may be a deal breaker) do any phones have better displays, menu
> options, etc. that would make them better suited for email usage?
>
> Thanks in advance... Agunat
I've got the unlimited $20 MediaNet on my Treo 650. They used to not
allow the cheaper service on PDAs, but they seemed to have changed their
tune - at least in my case. Worth checking out if you still have one.
> I would like opions as to which phone would be best for email (cox cable,
> pop3). Other than the obvious of giving up my qwerty keyboard (which in
> itself may be a deal breaker) do any phones have better displays, menu
> options, etc. that would make them better suited for email usage?
If you're still going to be doing that much email from the phone, why
switch? You'll just be opening yourself up to frustration as you try
to type in emails with a numeric keypad. You'll only find QWERTY
keypads on phones and devices designed for such uses, rather than as an
add-on for the occasional convenience.
If the PDA dedicated data plans are priced too high, don't use 'em. On
my Treo, I'm using MEdiaNet on an a la carte basis, and I just keep an
eye on my usage (not hard, since I don't use data all that much). But
if my data usage were to spike high, my account management options on
cingular.com has various MEdiaNet bundles available, with the unlimited
use at about half the price of the PDA/Smartphone specific rate - and
it knows I have a Treo.
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On Apr 30, 11:49 am, Jeffrey Kaplan <nom...@gordol.org> wrote:
> It is alleged that Fred claimed:
>
> > I would like opions as to which phone would be best for email (cox cable,
> > pop3). Other than the obvious of giving up my qwerty keyboard (which in
> > itself may be a deal breaker) do any phones have better displays, menu
> > options, etc. that would make them better suited for email usage?
>
> If you're still going to be doing that much email from the phone, why
> switch? You'll just be opening yourself up to frustration as you try
> to type in emails with a numeric keypad. You'll only find QWERTY
> keypads on phones and devices designed for such uses, rather than as an
> add-on for the occasional convenience.
>
> If the PDA dedicated data plans are priced too high, don't use 'em. On
> my Treo, I'm using MEdiaNet on an a la carte basis, and I just keep an
> eye on my usage (not hard, since I don't use data all that much). But
> if my data usage were to spike high, my account management options on
> cingular.com has various MEdiaNet bundles available, with the unlimited
> use at about half the price of the PDA/Smartphone specific rate - and
> it knows I have a Treo.
>
> --
> Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
> The from userid is killfiled Send personal mail to gordol
>
> "One of the common denominators I have found is that expectations rise
> above that which is expected." - George W. Bush, Sept. 27, 2000
Gee wiz! I specifically said I didn't want to discuss rate plans and
that's all anyone talks about. Could someone please answer the
question that was asked.
> Gee wiz! I specifically said I didn't want to discuss rate plans and
> that's all anyone talks about. Could someone please answer the
> question that was asked.
>
> Thanks.
>
I think that the point is that if you already have a PDA phone, you can
still use it as a phone, to send e-mail, without a data plan and without
any monthly data costs. On the rare occasions that I've sent e-mail from
a regular handset, I would have appreciated a phone with a QWERTY keyboard.
But to answer your question, I think that the best phone for e-mail,
without a QWERTY keyboard, would be the Nokia N80. It supports both POP3
and IMAP. It has WiFi, so when free WiFi is available you can send and
receive e-mail without a data plan or per use charges. It's a full
featured phone that is quad band, and has the usual features--Bluetooth,
Infrared, memory slot, etc.
You'd have to buy it from a third-party, as it isn't sold by any
carriers (which generally hate the idea of WiFi on a phone, fearful that
VOIP over free Wi-Fi will hurt their ARPU).
> Gee wiz! I specifically said I didn't want to discuss rate plans and
> that's all anyone talks about.
Actually you said "let's not
debate data plan tricks" which I, and probably most others interpreted as
meaning "tricking Cingular into selling you a non-PDA plan on a PDA."
The prior poster was not discussing a "trick"- he discussed using a
"legal" Cingular-sanctioned metered plan.
> Could someone please answer the
> question that was asked.
Many mid-to-high end Nokias support IMAP and POP. My old 3620 certainly
did and can be had on eBay unlocked for $50 or so.
> VOIP over free Wi-Fi will hurt their ARPU).
>
> If you don't want Wi-Fi, look at the Nokia N75.
I was going to suggest the N75 when it comes out, you can also use a V3xx if
you have your email account set up. Easy if you have the one's the phone
already supports.
N80 is a wonderful phone but doesn't support Cingy's 3g network so the skype
idea is shot unless you have wifi access. If one has deep pockets and can
live without 3g, the N95 is another great option.
The Blackberry Pearl is another option for email, it's fairly small and
seemed pretty responsive and easy to use when I played with it the store.
I applogize to the orginal poster for the thread going way past the attended
question.
Michael Paris wrote:
>
>> VOIP over free Wi-Fi will hurt their ARPU).
>>
>> If you don't want Wi-Fi, look at the Nokia N75.
>
> I was going to suggest the N75 when it comes out, you can also use a
> V3xx if you have your email account set up. Easy if you have the one's
> the phone already supports.
>
> N80 is a wonderful phone but doesn't support Cingy's 3g network so the
> skype idea is shot unless you have wifi access. If one has deep pockets
> and can live without 3g, the N95 is another great option.
Too bad the N95 doesn't have U.S. HSDPA. I wish that the GSM carriers
had standardized on the frequencies. I think that the original poster
didn't care about 3G.
The problem with the V3xx is that it's not a true World Phone, as it
lacks 900 MHz GSM, which is the primary GSM frequency used in Europe and
Asia.
[Copied to alt.cellular.attws. Please post all alt.cellular.cingular
posts to alt.cellular.attws as well. The Cingular name is going away,
and alt.cellular.attws is the proper venue for posts regarding AT&T's
Wireless Service.]
> > If you're still going to be doing that much email from the phone, why
> > switch? You'll just be opening yourself up to frustration as you try
> > to type in emails with a numeric keypad. You'll only find QWERTY
> > keypads on phones and devices designed for such uses, rather than as an
> > add-on for the occasional convenience.
>
> Gee wiz! I specifically said I didn't want to discuss rate plans and
> that's all anyone talks about. Could someone please answer the
> question that was asked.
Perhaps you missed the first paragraph of my response, which I'm
leaving above for your convenience.
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betray me at the moment most advantageous to him.
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 12:58:23 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in <46364a5e$0$27247$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:
>Michael Paris wrote:
>>
>>> VOIP over free Wi-Fi will hurt their ARPU).
>>>
>>> If you don't want Wi-Fi, look at the Nokia N75.
>>
>> I was going to suggest the N75 when it comes out, you can also use a
>> V3xx if you have your email account set up. Easy if you have the one's
>> the phone already supports.
>>
>> N80 is a wonderful phone but doesn't support Cingy's 3g network so the
>> skype idea is shot unless you have wifi access. If one has deep pockets
>> and can live without 3g, the N95 is another great option.
>
>Too bad the N95 doesn't have U.S. HSDPA. I wish that the GSM carriers
>had standardized on the frequencies. I think that the original poster
>didn't care about 3G.
>
>The problem with the V3xx is that it's not a true World Phone, as it
>lacks 900 MHz GSM, which is the primary GSM frequency used in Europe and
>Asia.
It actually works well in most areas outside of the USA.
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 08:02:12 -0400, "Fred" <none@abc.com> wrote in
<gVkZh.23234$OT4.4318@newsfe19.lga>:
>I do a lot of email and have in the past used a Treo 650, Blackberry 8800,
>and Blackjack and have been very satisfied with them all. Because of data
>plan costs I am thinking of going to a conventional cell phone (let's not
>debate data plan tricks).
>
>I would like opions as to which phone would be best for email (cox cable,
>pop3). Other than the obvious of giving up my qwerty keyboard (which in
>itself may be a deal breaker) do any phones have better displays, menu
>options, etc. that would make them better suited for email usage?
The new Motorola RAZR V3xx has a good email client built in (and a
wealth of other features), and the predictive text works well. The
catch is that the built-in email client is disabled on the
Cingular-branded version, although it's easily enabled with a simple
hack.
Consider also using Google Mail by means of the very good downloadable
app (in addition to the good WAP interface).
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
An "unlimited $20 MediaNet on my Treo 650" is not an option according to
Cingular's policy regarding PDA's (including Blackjack).
I guess I really should have said that I was really only considering phones
that Cingular is selling, ones that I can see in a retail store. I am just
the types that like to touch, see, and feel before buying, 30 return policy
not withstanding.
Agunat
"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in message
news:f15bg1$9vk$1@aioe.org...
> At 30 Apr 2007 09:28:30 -0700 Bob wrote:
>
>> Gee wiz! I specifically said I didn't want to discuss rate plans and
>> that's all anyone talks about.
>
> Actually you said "let's not
> debate data plan tricks" which I, and probably most others interpreted as
> meaning "tricking Cingular into selling you a non-PDA plan on a PDA."
> The prior poster was not discussing a "trick"- he discussed using a
> "legal" Cingular-sanctioned metered plan.
>
>> Could someone please answer the
>> question that was asked.
>
> Many mid-to-high end Nokias support IMAP and POP. My old 3620 certainly
> did and can be had on eBay unlocked for $50 or so.
>
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:48:25 -0400, "Fred" <none@abc.com> wrote in
<X%wZh.122051$mJ1.18677@newsfe22.lga>:
>I guess I really should have said that I was really only considering phones
>that Cingular is selling, ones that I can see in a retail store. I am just
>the types that like to touch, see, and feel before buying, 30 return policy
>not withstanding.
Why not try it out in a Cingular store, and then buy it someplace else?
However, I got such a good deal in a Cingular store that I bought my new
Motorola RAZR V3xx there.
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
At 30 Apr 2007 21:48:25 -0400 Fred wrote:
> An "unlimited $20 MediaNet on my Treo 650" is not an option according
to
> Cingular's policy regarding PDA's (including Blackjack).
That's true, but the metered plans (x# of MB for $y) ARE an allowed
option-
one poster suggested those types of plans, which wouldn't be a "trick."
A good friend of mine uses a $10/month metered plan (8MB IIRC) on her
8125- she sets the phone to download headers only, then selects just the
important "can't wait" e-mails to retrieve and reply to.
> I guess I really should have said that I was really only considering
> phones
> that Cingular is selling, ones that I can see in a retail store. I am
> just
> the types that like to touch, see, and feel before buying, 30 return
> policy not withstanding.
Again, the mid-to-high end Nokias SHOULD have intact IMAP/POP e-mail
(unless Cingular is crippling them like the Motorolas.)
In article <46364a5e$0$27247$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>Michael Paris wrote:
>>
>>> VOIP over free Wi-Fi will hurt their ARPU).
>>>
>>> If you don't want Wi-Fi, look at the Nokia N75.
>>
>> I was going to suggest the N75 when it comes out, you can also use a
>> V3xx if you have your email account set up. Easy if you have the one's
>> the phone already supports.
>>
>> N80 is a wonderful phone but doesn't support Cingy's 3g network so the
>> skype idea is shot unless you have wifi access. If one has deep pockets
>> and can live without 3g, the N95 is another great option.
>
>Too bad the N95 doesn't have U.S. HSDPA. I wish that the GSM carriers
>had standardized on the frequencies. I think that the original poster
>didn't care about 3G.
>
>The problem with the V3xx is that it's not a true World Phone, as it
>lacks 900 MHz GSM, which is the primary GSM frequency used in Europe and
>Asia.
On 2007-05-01, Mike S. <retsuhcs@xinap.moc> wrote:
> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>>Too bad the N95 doesn't have U.S. HSDPA. I wish that the GSM carriers
>>had standardized on the frequencies. I think that the original poster
>>didn't care about 3G.
>>
>>The problem with the V3xx is that it's not a true World Phone, as it
>>lacks 900 MHz GSM, which is the primary GSM frequency used in Europe and
>>Asia.
>
> Look at the upcoming Nokia 6120 Classic.
>
> Quad-band GSM PLUS HSPDA/UMTS (850/2100 MHz).
Doesn't seem like it is likely to be marketed in North America
like that. Much of Cingular's (and Roger's) HSDPA is 1900 MHz. The
850/2100 MHz combination is an Asia-Pacific (e.g. Korea, Australia)
thing, I think.
Dennis Ferguson wrote:
> On 2007-05-01, Mike S. <retsuhcs@xinap.moc> wrote:
>> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>>> Too bad the N95 doesn't have U.S. HSDPA. I wish that the GSM carriers
>>> had standardized on the frequencies. I think that the original poster
>>> didn't care about 3G.
>>>
>>> The problem with the V3xx is that it's not a true World Phone, as it
>>> lacks 900 MHz GSM, which is the primary GSM frequency used in Europe and
>>> Asia.
>> Look at the upcoming Nokia 6120 Classic.
>>
>> Quad-band GSM PLUS HSPDA/UMTS (850/2100 MHz).
>
> Doesn't seem like it is likely to be marketed in North America
> like that. Much of Cingular's (and Roger's) HSDPA is 1900 MHz. The
> 850/2100 MHz combination is an Asia-Pacific (e.g. Korea, Australia)
> thing, I think.
Yeah, you're right. However for the original poster, it would be okay,
as he mainly wants a phone with an e-mail client, and isn't doing a data
plan.
Email from a convemtional cell phone? 
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