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Old 09-18-2006, 04:25 PM
John Navas
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Default FAQ: Why is charging of Motorola phones so slow on the travel charger?

Q: Why is charging of Motorola phones so slow on the travel charger?

A: The standard travel charger packaged by Motorola with many current
phones puts out insufficient power for fastest possible charging and for
continuous use while charging.

For example, charger SSW-0509 for the V551 puts out only 375 mA. The
V551 detects this as a slow charger, and thus keeps the external display
backlight off during charging. Worse, there's not enough current to
keep up with use of the phone while charging, so while the phone is use,
the battery will still be discharged even with the phone on the charger.
With a fast charger the external display backlight is on during
charging, and the phone can be used while the battery is charging.

Motorola makes fast 1500 mA chargers that are compatible with these phones:
* SPN4716* (where * might be "B" or "C"), also known as
* NNTN4250 (nominally for Nextel, but also works with non-Nextel phones).
These chargers are readily available from dealers and on eBay for under
$15 (plus shipping).

(For what it's worth, Motorola probably saved less than $1 in cost by
packaging slow chargers instead of fast chargers with these phones.)

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Old 09-18-2006, 06:05 PM
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Default Re: FAQ: Why is charging )RE: HERE WE GO AGAIN!!!

John Navas wrote:
> Q: Why is charging of Motorola phones so slow on the travel charger?
>
> A: The standard travel charger packaged by Motorola with many current
> phones puts out insufficient power for fastest possible charging and for
> continuous use while charging.
>
> For example, charger SSW-0509 for the V551 puts out only 375 mA. The
> V551 detects this as a slow charger, and thus keeps the external display
> backlight off during charging. Worse, there's not enough current to
> keep up with use of the phone while charging, so while the phone is use,
> the battery will still be discharged even with the phone on the charger.
> With a fast charger the external display backlight is on during
> charging, and the phone can be used while the battery is charging.
>
> Motorola makes fast 1500 mA chargers that are compatible with these phones:
> * SPN4716* (where * might be "B" or "C"), also known as
> * NNTN4250 (nominally for Nextel, but also works with non-Nextel phones).
> These chargers are readily available from dealers and on eBay for under
> $15 (plus shipping).
>
> (For what it's worth, Motorola probably saved less than $1 in cost by
> packaging slow chargers instead of fast chargers with these phones.)


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Old 09-20-2006, 01:51 AM
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Default Re: FAQ: Why is charging )RE: HERE WE GO AGAIN!!!

In article <hdBPg.3321$uj3.1520@trnddc08>, Dave <daves1955@verizon.net>
wrote:

> John Navas wrote:
> > Q: Why is charging of Motorola phones so slow on the travel charger?
> >
> > A: The standard travel charger packaged by Motorola with many current
> > phones puts out insufficient power for fastest possible charging and for
> > continuous use while charging.
> >
> > For example, charger SSW-0509 for the V551 puts out only 375 mA. The
> > V551 detects this as a slow charger, and thus keeps the external display
> > backlight off during charging. Worse, there's not enough current to
> > keep up with use of the phone while charging, so while the phone is use,
> > the battery will still be discharged even with the phone on the charger.
> > With a fast charger the external display backlight is on during
> > charging, and the phone can be used while the battery is charging.
> >
> > Motorola makes fast 1500 mA chargers that are compatible with these phones:
> > * SPN4716* (where * might be "B" or "C"), also known as
> > * NNTN4250 (nominally for Nextel, but also works with non-Nextel phones).
> > These chargers are readily available from dealers and on eBay for under
> > $15 (plus shipping).
> >
> > (For what it's worth, Motorola probably saved less than $1 in cost by
> > packaging slow chargers instead of fast chargers with these phones.)


Motorola sells cell phones by the millions. Saving a dollar per phone
probably got someone promoted.

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Old 09-21-2006, 02:52 PM
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Default Re: FAQ: Why is charging )RE: HERE WE GO AGAIN!!!

Jackzwick wrote:
> In article <hdBPg.3321$uj3.1520@trnddc08>, Dave <daves1955@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>> John Navas wrote:
>>> Q: Why is charging of Motorola phones so slow on the travel charger?
>>>
>>> A: The standard travel charger packaged by Motorola with many current
>>> phones puts out insufficient power for fastest possible charging and for
>>> continuous use while charging.
>>>
>>> For example, charger SSW-0509 for the V551 puts out only 375 mA. The
>>> V551 detects this as a slow charger, and thus keeps the external display
>>> backlight off during charging. Worse, there's not enough current to
>>> keep up with use of the phone while charging, so while the phone is use,
>>> the battery will still be discharged even with the phone on the charger.
>>> With a fast charger the external display backlight is on during
>>> charging, and the phone can be used while the battery is charging.
>>>
>>> Motorola makes fast 1500 mA chargers that are compatible with these phones:
>>> * SPN4716* (where * might be "B" or "C"), also known as
>>> * NNTN4250 (nominally for Nextel, but also works with non-Nextel phones).
>>> These chargers are readily available from dealers and on eBay for under
>>> $15 (plus shipping).
>>>
>>> (For what it's worth, Motorola probably saved less than $1 in cost by
>>> packaging slow chargers instead of fast chargers with these phones.)

>
> Motorola sells cell phones by the millions. Saving a dollar per phone
> probably got someone promoted.


Except it probably didn't save them anything. The SPN4716 is physically
a lot larger than the smaller charger they include. It actually would
cost them less to build the SPN4716. However since most people charge
their phone overnight, and since most people would prefer a smaller
charger, the 375mA charger became the standard charger included with the
phones.

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