Fortune Repoerts Top six multimedia phones from CES

How interesting, no mention of the you-know-what at all. Looks like Apple
has been relegated to has-been status once again.

http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/...timedia_phones.
fortune/index.html

CozmicDebris <isheforreal> wrote in
news:Xns9A1FABA432225isheforreal@216.196.97.136:

> How interesting, no mention of the you-know-what at all. Looks like
> Apple has been relegated to has-been status once again.
>

Notice no mention of Voyager, either....

I think this article was about SELLphones, not about WebTV mobiles.


Larry
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CozmicDebris wrote:
> How interesting, no mention of the you-know-what at all. Looks like Apple
> has been relegated to has-been status once again.
>
> http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/...timedia_phones.
> fortune/index.html

Because CES reports on new products at the show. Apple doesn't exhibit
at CES, and even if they did there would be no new iPhone to report on.

SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in
news:4784f493$0$84201$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:

> CozmicDebris wrote:
>> How interesting, no mention of the you-know-what at all. Looks like
>> Apple has been relegated to has-been status once again.
>>
>> http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/....multimedia_ph
>> ones. fortune/index.html
>
> Because CES reports on new products at the show. Apple doesn't exhibit
> at CES, and even if they did there would be no new iPhone to report
> on.
>

What about the much-hyped 3g iPhone? The absence of it speaks volumes.

The other thing you failed to catch- in the reviews of the featured phones,
there is no mention of or comparison to the iPhone. Proof that it is not
the technological standard the Apple geeks would brainwash us into
believing.

CozmicDebris wrote:

<snip>

> What about the much-hyped 3g iPhone? The absence of it speaks volumes.

It's not ready yet. The legal issues with W-CDMA is one reason, but the
next generation iPhone is adding more than just 3G.

> The other thing you failed to catch- in the reviews of the featured phones,
> there is no mention of or comparison to the iPhone. Proof that it is not
> the technological standard the Apple geeks would brainwash us into
> believing.

Those comparisons will occur when the new phones are released and
evaluated, rather than just being demonstrated by booth bimbos. Just
like the LG Voyager trumped the iPhone, these other new phones will do
the same.

SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in
news:47856415$0$84189$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:

> CozmicDebris wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> What about the much-hyped 3g iPhone? The absence of it speaks
>> volumes.
>
> It's not ready yet. The legal issues with W-CDMA is one reason, but
> the next generation iPhone is adding more than just 3G.

And no matter what, not even a prototype at the show.

On 2008-01-10, CozmicDebris <isheforreal> wrote:
> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in
> news:47856415$0$84189$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
>
>> CozmicDebris wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> What about the much-hyped 3g iPhone? The absence of it speaks
>>> volumes.
>>
>> It's not ready yet. The legal issues with W-CDMA is one reason, but
>> the next generation iPhone is adding more than just 3G.
>
> And no matter what, not even a prototype at the show.

But, again, Apple doesn't attend CES so you're not going to
see anything from Apple at that show This is particularly
true since Apple runs its own show the week following CES, i.e.

http://www.macworldexpo.com/

where they traditionally announce stuff. The iPhone was announceed
at this show last year, for example.

In any case, if you want to see if Apple is going to show a
prototype you'll need to wait until next week to find out.
They just wouldn't do this at CES.

Dennis Ferguson

CozmicDebris wrote:
> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in
> news:47856415$0$84189$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
>
>> CozmicDebris wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> What about the much-hyped 3g iPhone? The absence of it speaks
>>> volumes.
>>
>> It's not ready yet. The legal issues with W-CDMA is one reason, but
>> the next generation iPhone is adding more than just 3G.
>
> And no matter what, not even a prototype at the show.

You were already told once that Apple doesn't do CES. Try and keep up.

I don't blame Apple as CES is now mostly a bunch of vaporware that never
sees the light of day. The good stuff, that wouldn't need CES anyway, is
drowned out by go-nowhere crap like GM's self-driving car and yet another
wristwatch phone/GPS/whatever.


--
Mike

In article <5umusaF1infm0U1@mid.individual.net>, "Tinman" <ask@for.it>
wrote:

> CozmicDebris wrote:
> > SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in
> > news:47856415$0$84189$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
> >
> >> CozmicDebris wrote:
> >>
> >> <snip>
> >>
> >>> What about the much-hyped 3g iPhone? The absence of it speaks
> >>> volumes.
> >>
> >> It's not ready yet. The legal issues with W-CDMA is one reason, but
> >> the next generation iPhone is adding more than just 3G.
> >
> > And no matter what, not even a prototype at the show.
>
> You were already told once that Apple doesn't do CES. Try and keep up.
>
> I don't blame Apple as CES is now mostly a bunch of vaporware that never
> sees the light of day. The good stuff, that wouldn't need CES anyway, is
> drowned out by go-nowhere crap like GM's self-driving car and yet another
> wristwatch phone/GPS/whatever.

The big news is the cellphone picture printer. LOL.

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On 1/10/08 10:19 AM, in article 5umusaF1infm0U1@mid.individual.net, "Tinman"
<ask@for.it> wrote:

> CozmicDebris wrote:
>> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in
>> news:47856415$0$84189$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
>>
>>> CozmicDebris wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> What about the much-hyped 3g iPhone? The absence of it speaks
>>>> volumes.
>>>
>>> It's not ready yet. The legal issues with W-CDMA is one reason, but
>>> the next generation iPhone is adding more than just 3G.
>>
>> And no matter what, not even a prototype at the show.
>
> You were already told once that Apple doesn't do CES. Try and keep up.
>
How can he since he is nothing 'debris' and blinded by hate for Apple? Makes
it difficult to communicate. Where is your compassion for the handicapped?

"4phun" <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:fc78193e-4501-4914-a738-39b3778448eb@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 9, 7:45 pm, CozmicDebris <isheforreal> wrote:
> SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote
> innews:47856415$0$84189$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
>
> > CozmicDebris wrote:
>
> > <snip>
>
> >> What about the much-hyped 3g iPhone? The absence of it speaks
> >> volumes.
>
> > It's not ready yet. The legal issues with W-CDMA is one reason, but
> > the next generation iPhone is adding more than just 3G.
>
> And no matter what, not even a prototype at the show.

prototype iPhone?

You looked in all the wrong spots, go to the Intel booth. Smug grin!

Apple will switch to Intel chipset for the next iPhone. So logically
Intel would be the weak link, like the CEO of AT&T, for leaking Apple
insider information before MacWorld.


BTW there is a rumor that the current iPhone will go up in price on
Feb 1, 2008.

The weak dollar?

If you are with Verizon and are waiting to get out your contract so
you can get an iPhone without an ETF go to this web site immediately
and read the steps to take.
http://wireddeals.com/deals/web/showdeal/910017

quote in part

Get Out of Verizon Wireless ETF

Alright guys. First it was the Sprint ETF post, now Verizon Wireless
subscribers can get out of their contracts early with no ETF ...This
notice is going to appear on your next paper bill... A Wikipost will
be added for updates regarding this.


quote
Notice of Text Messaging Increase
If you are not currently subscribed to a Messaging Package, beginning
March 2, 2008, the price for sending Text Messages to the U.S., Puerto
Rico, Canada and Mexico - as well as the price for receiving Text
Messages from anywhere - will increase from $0.15 to $0.20 per
message per recipient. The price to send an International Text Message
will remain $0.25 per message per recipient. If you do subscribe to a
Messaging Package, your package rates will stay the same. For
information regarding this change, please visit
http://support.vzw.com/faqs/TXT%2...rease.html. Please
consult your Customer Agreement for information about rate changes.

This only applies to customers like me who aren't in a subscribed
messaging package. Since this is a change in contract , you can get
out of your contracts early without the ETF fee.

end quote excerpt

Go there to read the step by step action to take..
http://wireddeals.com/deals/web/showdeal/910017



That's only going to work if the user does not have a txt plan.
If they send any sms then there in some kind of plan. Verizon est. are less
then .05 of users fall in to this plan.

"Tinman" <ask@for.it> wrote in news:5umusaF1infm0U1@mid.individual.net:

> CozmicDebris wrote:
>> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in
>> news:47856415$0$84189$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
>>
>>> CozmicDebris wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> What about the much-hyped 3g iPhone? The absence of it speaks
>>>> volumes.
>>>
>>> It's not ready yet. The legal issues with W-CDMA is one reason, but
>>> the next generation iPhone is adding more than just 3G.
>>
>> And no matter what, not even a prototype at the show.
>
> You were already told once that Apple doesn't do CES. Try and keep up.

Actually, Tinboy, the post you are referring to came after the one you just
responded to. Try and keep up.

>
> I don't blame Apple as CES is now mostly a bunch of vaporware that
> never sees the light of day. The good stuff, that wouldn't need CES
> anyway, is drowned out by go-nowhere crap like GM's self-driving car
> and yet another wristwatch phone/GPS/whatever.
>
>

George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:C3ABA457.4177F%ghost_topper@hotmail.com:

>
>
>
> On 1/10/08 10:19 AM, in article 5umusaF1infm0U1@mid.individual.net,
> "Tinman" <ask@for.it> wrote:
>
>> CozmicDebris wrote:
>>> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in
>>> news:47856415$0$84189$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
>>>
>>>> CozmicDebris wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>>> What about the much-hyped 3g iPhone? The absence of it speaks
>>>>> volumes.
>>>>
>>>> It's not ready yet. The legal issues with W-CDMA is one reason, but
>>>> the next generation iPhone is adding more than just 3G.
>>>
>>> And no matter what, not even a prototype at the show.
>>
>> You were already told once that Apple doesn't do CES. Try and keep
>> up.
>>
> How can he since he is nothing 'debris' and blinded by hate for Apple?
> Makes it difficult to communicate. Where is your compassion for the
> handicapped?
>
>

I don't hate Apples- I hate the senseless fanatacism and fact-stretching
exhibited by their fans. You talk of me being blinded- your response shows
nothing but a low level of intelligence. A "handicap", if you will.

Tinman wrote:

> I don't blame Apple as CES is now mostly a bunch of vaporware that never
> sees the light of day.

Absolutely false. There's very little of that at CES. It's almost
entirely new product announcements for what's going to be shipped later
in the same year.

Apple doesn't go to CES for the same reason they didn't go to Comdex.
It's a huge show, and each company gets relatively little attention from
the press. It's very expensive to attend, and at the time the show
became relevant for computer manufactures, Apple didn't have the money
to go. It gives a lot of attention to Microsoft, and Gates has been the
keynote speaker for many year.

Apple's approach of having Macworld at the same time as CES is a smart
marketing move in some ways, but much of the press can't attend because
they're at CES. Still as Apple moves more into consumer electronics, and
away from their old core business of computers, they will probably
decide to attend CES.

CozmicDebris wrote:
> "Tinman" wrote:
>> CozmicDebris wrote:
>>>
>>> And no matter what, not even a prototype at the show.
>>
>> You were already told once that Apple doesn't do CES. Try and keep
>> up.
>
> Actually, Tinboy, the post you are referring to came after the one
> you just responded to. Try and keep up.
>

Wow, you really are clueless. Here's a hint, nitwit, SMS told you this,
quoted again below, and it went right through your empty head:

SMS wrote:
> CozmicDebris wrote:
>> How interesting, no mention of the you-know-what at all. Looks like
>> Apple has been relegated to has-been status once again.
>>
>> http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/...timedia_phones.
>> fortune/index.html
>
> Because CES reports on new products at the show. Apple doesn't exhibit
> at CES, and even if they did there would be no new iPhone to report
> on.


--
Mike

On 1/10/08 6:42 PM, in article Xns9A21B4120667isheforreal@216.196.97.136,
"CozmicDebris" <isheforreal> wrote:

> George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:C3ABA457.4177F%ghost_topper@hotmail.com:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/10/08 10:19 AM, in article 5umusaF1infm0U1@mid.individual.net,
>> "Tinman" <ask@for.it> wrote:
>>
>>> CozmicDebris wrote:
>>>> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:47856415$0$84189$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
>>>>
>>>>> CozmicDebris wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>>> What about the much-hyped 3g iPhone? The absence of it speaks
>>>>>> volumes.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not ready yet. The legal issues with W-CDMA is one reason, but
>>>>> the next generation iPhone is adding more than just 3G.
>>>>
>>>> And no matter what, not even a prototype at the show.
>>>
>>> You were already told once that Apple doesn't do CES. Try and keep
>>> up.
>>>
>> How can he since he is nothing 'debris' and blinded by hate for Apple?
>> Makes it difficult to communicate. Where is your compassion for the
>> handicapped?
>>
>>
>
> I don't hate Apples- I hate the senseless fanatacism and fact-stretching
> exhibited by their fans. You talk of me being blinded- your response shows
> nothing but a low level of intelligence. A "handicap", if you will.

Indication of level of intelligence:

1. "I don't hate AppleS"
2. "exhibited by THEIR fans"

All in ONE sentence!

Guess you're right, Einstein - you've got it on me.

SMS wrote:
> Tinman wrote:
>
>> I don't blame Apple as CES is now mostly a bunch of vaporware that
>> never sees the light of day.
>
> Absolutely false. There's very little of that at CES. It's almost
> entirely new product announcements for what's going to be shipped
> later in the same year.
>

Bullshit. Up until a year ago I attended CES regularly, and know very well
of what I speak. You either don't attend, or skip 90% of the exibits. The
fact is many of the products shown at CES never make it to production; heck
some aren't even meant to, at least in their current form (like this year's
auto-driving car).

And then there's the stuff that is already on the market--which consists of
50%+ of the products at CES. I don't count those since those are already on
the market.

DataPlay was "Best of Show" in the blank media category at CES 2001. Never
hit the streets. Doubt anyone even remembers it anymore. Back in the '90s
there were HiDef TVs shown each year that never made it out to the general
public. Last year Wireless HDMI and Dash Express GPS were big hits. Neither
made it out last year. Ditto for Sling Catcher. Other products may limp into
production only to go nowhere (e.g., Mira/Smart Display).

But enough about my opinion. Here's what Rachel Rosmarin, from Forbes, wrote
last year about CES:
"More than 2,700 exhibitors descend on Las Vegas Monday, each ready to show
off their latest and greatest tricks at the annual Consumer Electronics
Show.

But good luck finding many of the gizmos and gadgets on store shelves:
Though CES is supposed to give gearheads a peek at the future, it is often
better at displaying "vaporware" - would-be innovations that never
materialize.

Some of this is par for the course: Much like the auto show that's running
concurrently in Detroit, CES is meant to have a fantasy element to it -
stuff that ought to be but isn't yet and may never be. The real sin is in
showing off what are supposed to be real products to retailers and press,
then not delivering."

Guess she didn't have the sense to run that article by SMS.



--
Mike

SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:47877f68$0$84183
$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:

> Apple doesn't go to CES for the same reason they didn't go to Comdex.
>

So the faithful can come and gawk without competitors wooing the faithful
away to something better or CHEAPER?

We have a boat dealer here who plays the same game. He NEVER displays at
boat shows with his competitors, but has a "special showing" the same
weekend the boatshow is going on. That way he doesn't have to answer
embarrassing questions about why his boats are so much more money or have
less quality or the "Why don't you have this?" questions.

It's a different marketing plan to sell overpriced equipment without
discounts.

Larry
--
As the price of Monopoly money rises, at some point it will equal
Federal Reserve Private Bank fake banknotes in value!