A hoot - iPhone Dynamics compared to all other platforms

Some carriers have had some Smartphone devices that work with Pandora
for the last 18 months. OK. How many accounts has Pandora setup for
all smartphones all platforms over eighteen months?

12,000

Now look at this!

Pandora Media's Radio application [App Store] has acheived 350,000
installations on the iPhone within the first 6 days!

Does that boggle the mind or what?

The iPhone take up of Pandora was 350,000 in six days compared to only
12,000 over 540 days for all that pre iPhone crap!

Apple is apparently the only provider that will allow developers to
offer a free ad-supported distribution model. Pandora plans on
monetizing their iPhone application through ads in the future.

Facebook and Loopt have also seen impressive adoption over the course
of a week. Loopt claims the average iPhone user is 47 times more
active on their network than other platforms.

When discussing the promise of Google's Android mobile platform, some
developers were skeptical about the experience:

"I need Android like I need a hole in the head," said Pandora's
Conrad, picturing it as "another OS platform that sits on top of buggy
firmware, with devices with hundreds of manufacturers, with different
characteristics."

Facebook and Loopt have also seen impressive adoption over the course
of a week. Loopt claims the average iPhone user is 47 times more
active on their network than other platforms.

When discussing the promise of Google's Android mobile platform, some
developers were skeptical about the experience:

"I need Android like I need a hole in the head," said Pandora's
Conrad, picturing it as "another OS platform that sits on top of buggy
firmware, with devices with hundreds of manufacturers, with different
characteristics."

BTW

AT&T banned peer to peer file transfer on their 3G network today.

AT&T has been examining network data usage and possibly even looking
at the data packets to spot P2P.

Look for a warning from AT&T.

On Jul 29, 5:55*pm, 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Some carriers have had some Smartphone devices that work with Pandora
> for the last 18 months. OK. How many accounts has Pandora setup for
> all smartphones all platforms over eighteen months?
>
> 12,000
>
> Now look at this!
>
> Pandora Media's Radio application [App Store] has acheived 350,000
> installations on the iPhone within the first 6 days!
>
> Does that boggle the mind or what?
>
> The iPhone take up of Pandora was 350,000 in six days compared to only
> 12,000 over 540 days for all that pre iPhone crap!

>
> BTW
>
> AT&T banned peer to peer file transfer on their 3G network today.
>
> Look for a warning from AT&T.


AT&T Bans Use of Peer-to-Peer File Sharing on 3G Network
By Editor Wireless and Mobile News on July 29, 2008 11:31 AM

According to MultiChannel News, AT&T’s 3G bandwagon does not include
peer-to-peer downloading and AT&T bans the use of 3G networks for P2P
file sharing and told an FCC official that anyone caught with their
hands the P-2-P cookie jar will be terminated.

“AT&T’s terms of service for mobile wireless broadband customers
prohibit all uses that may cause extreme network capacity issues, and
explicitly identify P2P file sharing applications as such a use,” said
Robert Quinn, AT&T’s senior vice president of federal regulatory
affairs in letter to FCC member Robert McDowel

“Under these terms of service, which are similar to those of other
wireless providers, use of a P2P file sharing application would
constitute a material breach of contract for which the user’s service
could be terminated,” Quinn added.

First AT&T warns customers in writing that their relationship is in
jeopardy for using banned P2P apps.

4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:a4bb334e-dfde-4bad-ac76-
08ee99b49293@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

> Now look at this!
>
> Pandora Media's Radio application [App Store] has acheived 350,000
> installations on the iPhone within the first 6 days!
>
> Does that boggle the mind or what?
>
>

Stupid, isn't it? Nannied iPhoners have no FM radio to listen to, their
browser doesn't support Flash, Realaudio/video, streaming MP3, etc, so they
can't listen to Shoutcast or Xiph or Live365 stations for free, along with
the thousands of other radio and TV stations streaming 24/7 free. iPhone
has no open source media player, and won't if the FruitFarm has anything to
do with it, hackers aside, so it can only play what Apple thinks you should
PAY for, like this stupid Pandora Media Radio app approved by the nannies
because they're being PAID to play it.

You're way too smart for this to be some kind of oversight on such gross
stupidity. Why do you point these dumb apps out to us?

We need to port Streamtuner or World99TV and especially mplayer to the
FruitFone. THEN you'd have something to brag about!....

.....playing radios the rest of us take for granted....

Why does everything on that box have to have a BOX OFFICE standing in front
of it??

4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:a4bb334e-dfde-4bad-ac76-
08ee99b49293@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

> AT&T banned peer to peer file transfer on their 3G network today.
>
> AT&T has been examining network data usage and possibly even looking
> at the data packets to spot P2P.
>
> Look for a warning from AT&T.
>
>

Precisely why you are not allowed to actually DO anything online with an
iPhonePod device. Anything that uses bandwidth is forbidden.....

At 29 Jul 2008 14:55:07 -0700 4phun wrote:
> Some carriers have had some Smartphone devices that work with Pandora
> for the last 18 months. OK. How many accounts has Pandora setup for
> all smartphones all platforms over eighteen months?
>
> 12,000
>
> Now look at this!
>
> Pandora Media's Radio application [App Store] has acheived 350,000
> installations on the iPhone within the first 6 days!
>
> Does that boggle the mind or what?


No, not really- Pandora is free on PCs, but costs $3/month (on Sprint) or
$9/month on AT&T. It's free on the iPhone. And far from being on "all
platforms," Pandora is only available on a select few "dumbphones" on those
two carriers.

Until iPhone, AT&T didn't really promote Pandora, except by including a
subscription linkit on the MEdia Net WAP deck.


> The iPhone take up of Pandora was 350,000 in six days compared to only
> 12,000 over 540 days for all that pre iPhone crap!

Which proves we've discovered what most people are willing to pay for
Pandora: $0, just like on their PC.

> Apple is apparently the only provider that will allow developers to
> offer a free ad-supported distribution model. Pandora plans on
> monetizing their iPhone application through ads in the future.


Really? Interesting. I assumed they just have a commission deal with
iTunes, like on the PC (if you click a "buy" link for a song/album from
Pandora on the desktop from Amazon or iTunes, Pandora gets a cut.)


> BTW
>
> AT&T banned peer to peer file transfer on their 3G network today.


When did they ever allow it? ;-)

> AT&T has been examining network data usage and possibly even looking
> at the data packets to spot P2P.
>
> Look for a warning from AT&T.
>

VoIP will likely be next, unfortunately...