I'm thinking of upgrading my phone (on a tight budget) and am considering
the Motorola V3xx (Wal-mart $28.99). The screen looks a little better than
the V3. I will not be using the music player but do make heavy use of the
appointment calendar and would like to sync with Outlook. Can anyone share
their experience with this phone or offer alternatives?
> I'm thinking of upgrading my phone (on a tight budget) and am
> considering the Motorola V3xx (Wal-mart $28.99). The screen looks a
> little better than the V3. I will not be using the music player but
> do make heavy use of the appointment calendar and would like to sync
> with Outlook. Can anyone share their experience with this phone or
> offer alternatives?
Go for it. It has a very good reputation from everything I've seen
around here. I got the Krazr (from wal mart) and though it's been
the best voice phone I've ever had, now that I have need for mobile
data, I wish I'd gotten the v3xx.
That's a great deal there at Wal Mart for that phone! I like dealing
with their cell folks -- no commissions, no surprises.
On 08 Nov 2007 09:15:17 -0600, t@toddh.net (Todd H.) wrote in
<84prykhipm.fsf@ripco.com>:
>"Fred" <none@none.com> writes:
>
>> I'm thinking of upgrading my phone (on a tight budget) and am
>> considering the Motorola V3xx (Wal-mart $28.99). The screen looks a
>> little better than the V3. I will not be using the music player but
>> do make heavy use of the appointment calendar and would like to sync
>> with Outlook. Can anyone share their experience with this phone or
>> offer alternatives?
>
>Go for it. It has a very good reputation from everything I've seen
>around here. I got the Krazr (from wal mart) and though it's been
>the best voice phone I've ever had, now that I have need for mobile
>data, I wish I'd gotten the v3xx.
>
>That's a great deal there at Wal Mart for that phone! I like dealing
>with their cell folks -- no commissions, no surprises.
Agreed all around. I have the V3xx, and it's excellent, with lightning
fast data (HSDPA), and a screen that's actually much better than the
original V3. Highly recommended.
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
> Todd H. <t@toddh.net> wrote:
> > Go for it. It has a very good reputation from everything I've seen
> > around here.
>
> What is "around here"? Geography, or newsgroup?
This ng.
> You suggested a Krzr when I asked about a replacement for the V3xx.
> I didn't like my V3xx. My Nokia 6126 has better reception. There is no 3G
> here, so that doesn't matter yet.
You've been teh only detractor to the v3xx I've seen thus far in the
ng, which makes me wonder if you had a bad unit perhaps?
To the OP, check out what phonescoop.com reviews have to say if you'd
like a larger dataset to choose on.
> Todd H. <t@toddh.net> wrote:
> > Go for it. It has a very good reputation from everything I've seen
> > around here.
>
> What is "around here"? Geography, or newsgroup?
>
> You suggested a Krzr when I asked about a replacement for the V3xx.
>
> I didn't like my V3xx. My Nokia 6126 has better reception. There is no 3G
> here, so that doesn't matter yet.
Oh, and Fred might be interested in what you didn't like about the
v3xx you had other than reception.
I was considering the Krazr also. I have no need for the data so 3G is not
something I'd use. Is the screen clear enough for appt. viewing & such? I
was concerned about that aspect although I like the Krazr's size better.
You don't want to sell yours do you?
Fred
"Todd H." <t@toddh.net> wrote in message news:84prykhipm.fsf@ripco.com...
> "Fred" <none@none.com> writes:
>
>> I'm thinking of upgrading my phone (on a tight budget) and am
>> considering the Motorola V3xx (Wal-mart $28.99). The screen looks a
>> little better than the V3. I will not be using the music player but
>> do make heavy use of the appointment calendar and would like to sync
>> with Outlook. Can anyone share their experience with this phone or
>> offer alternatives?
>
> Go for it. It has a very good reputation from everything I've seen
> around here. I got the Krazr (from wal mart) and though it's been
> the best voice phone I've ever had, now that I have need for mobile
> data, I wish I'd gotten the v3xx.
>
> That's a great deal there at Wal Mart for that phone! I like dealing
> with their cell folks -- no commissions, no surprises.
>
>
> --
> Todd H.
> http://toddh.net/
> I was considering the Krazr also. I have no need for the data so 3G
> is not something I'd use. Is the screen clear enough for
> appt. viewing & such? I was concerned about that aspect although I
> like the Krazr's size better. You don't want to sell yours do you?
Where were you a month ago when I was looking for a v3xx to trade for
my Krzr before I gave up and activated a new line with an AT&T Tilt
8925? Hee hee.
Does Wal Mart still have the blue Krazr's for about $75?
At the time I got mine, v3xx's were the same price as the Krazr.
Online says it's free! Is the screen clear enough for the monthly view?
Fred
"Todd H." <t@toddh.net> wrote in message news:84ejf0ebzv.fsf@ripco.com...
> "Fred" <none@none.com> writes:
>
>> I was considering the Krazr also. I have no need for the data so 3G
>> is not something I'd use. Is the screen clear enough for
>> appt. viewing & such? I was concerned about that aspect although I
>> like the Krazr's size better. You don't want to sell yours do you?
>
> Where were you a month ago when I was looking for a v3xx to trade for
> my Krzr before I gave up and activated a new line with an AT&T Tilt
> 8925? Hee hee.
>
> Does Wal Mart still have the blue Krazr's for about $75?
>
> At the time I got mine, v3xx's were the same price as the Krazr.
>
> --
> Todd H.
> http://toddh.net/
I don't use the calendar but lemme see. Down in Tools... calendar.
The monthly calendar view shows me a month and a bunch of numbers in
the usual (looks like a month calendar") way, and all are clear.
I added an appointment and it seems that in month view Days with stuff
on them show with a little tiny triangle in teh bottom right of the
date.
All very clean. Seems quite usable to me. Maybe I should look into
this feature. Hee hee. All my shit's still in Palm desktop. What do
you use on teh PC side for your appointments? Curious what all Moto
supports for interchange?
Motorola has a program called appropriately enough Motorola Phone Tools. I
think Motorola wants about $30 for it but you can get it on eBay for about
$10. It will work just like your Palm Desktop, you can type in all the
stuff on your computer and then sync to the phone. I believe it will sync
with Outlook as well. It's really a great little program & will do a lot
more. I bought when I got my V3 when they first came out but I can't find
it now, I'll buy it again though.
Fred
"Todd H." <t@toddh.net> wrote in message news:84ve8cbezy.fsf@ripco.com...
> "Fred" <none@none.com> writes:
>
>> Online says it's free!
>
> Shit, go for it.
>
>>Is the screen clear enough for the monthly view?
>
> I don't use the calendar but lemme see. Down in Tools... calendar.
>
> The monthly calendar view shows me a month and a bunch of numbers in
> the usual (looks like a month calendar") way, and all are clear.
>
> I added an appointment and it seems that in month view Days with stuff
> on them show with a little tiny triangle in teh bottom right of the
> date.
>
> All very clean. Seems quite usable to me. Maybe I should look into
> this feature. Hee hee. All my shit's still in Palm desktop. What do
> you use on teh PC side for your appointments? Curious what all Moto
> supports for interchange?
>
> --
> --
> Todd H.
> http://toddh.net/
Todd H. <t@toddh.net> wrote:
> Oh, and Fred might be interested in what you didn't like about the
> v3xx you had other than reception.
I don't recall anything else bad about it in particular.
Reception is kind if the main point, isn't it?
I wish I had tried another V3xx. I really didn't the possibility of a
working but weak unit. If it had failed outright, I would have tried
another.
My other thought at the time was that the independent Cingular dealer in
Napa was a whole lot easier to deal with in person than the pile of
customer service reps that I talked to after ordering via cingular.com.
--
Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5
On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 19:05:17 +0000 (UTC), dold@09.usenet.us.com wrote in
<fgvmld$ejn$1@blue.rahul.net>:
>Todd H. <t@toddh.net> wrote:
>> Go for it. It has a very good reputation from everything I've seen
>> around here.
>
>What is "around here"? Geography, or newsgroup?
>
>You suggested a Krzr when I asked about a replacement for the V3xx.
>
>I didn't like my V3xx. My Nokia 6126 has better reception. There is no 3G
>here, so that doesn't matter yet.
I think you may have gotten a bad V3xx -- mine is better than any Nokia
I've tried, including the 6126.
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 23:47:12 GMT, John Navas
<spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>I didn't like my V3xx. My Nokia 6126 has better reception. There is no 3G
>>here, so that doesn't matter yet.
>
>I think you may have gotten a bad V3xx -- mine is better than any Nokia
>I've tried, including the 6126.
I have had quite a number of phones over the years (started with the
original Motorola "brick"), including Nokia phones, and my RAZR V3 has
been the best to date.
Best,
Bob
Robert A. Fink, M. D., FACS, P. C.
Neurological Surgery
2500 Milvia Street Suite 222
Berkeley, CA 94704-2636 USA
510-849-2555
If I am not using data (no 3G) is the Krzr esentially a V3xx clone? Are
there any other advantages to the V3xx (I do plan on extensive use of the
appt. calendar).
Thanks... Bob
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> On 08 Nov 2007 09:15:17 -0600, t@toddh.net (Todd H.) wrote in
> <84prykhipm.fsf@ripco.com>:
>
>>"Fred" <none@none.com> writes:
>>
>>> I'm thinking of upgrading my phone (on a tight budget) and am
>>> considering the Motorola V3xx (Wal-mart $28.99). The screen looks a
>>> little better than the V3. I will not be using the music player but
>>> do make heavy use of the appointment calendar and would like to sync
>>> with Outlook. Can anyone share their experience with this phone or
>>> offer alternatives?
>>
>>Go for it. It has a very good reputation from everything I've seen
>>around here. I got the Krazr (from wal mart) and though it's been
>>the best voice phone I've ever had, now that I have need for mobile
>>data, I wish I'd gotten the v3xx.
>>
>>That's a great deal there at Wal Mart for that phone! I like dealing
>>with their cell folks -- no commissions, no surprises.
>
> Agreed all around. I have the V3xx, and it's excellent, with lightning
> fast data (HSDPA), and a screen that's actually much better than the
> original V3. Highly recommended.
>
> --
> Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
> John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
V3xx has a lower resolution camera, about half the talk time, one less
GSM band. On the plus side, though, it has 3G data rates as you know,
3x the memory of the Krzr (which if you store a bashitload in your
calendar might be an issue?), and 2 WCDMA bands that the Krzr lacks
(does WCDMA do anything for us AT&T folks by the way?), and the V3xx
screen is 240 x 320 pixels vs the Krzr's screen which is 176 x 220
pixels. That screen size and memory may be what sways you for your
calendaring desires.
Only you and your eyes and hands with the two in front of you will
help you decide, I suspect.
> Are there any other advantages to the V3xx (I do plan on extensive use
> of the appt. calendar).
Is there an AT&T store near you that carries both that might have two
working demo models that you can compare side by side?
Seems it's time to stop researching and time to get two of em side by
side and pull the trigger. :-) The key for you I suspect will be
eyeballing what the calendars look like side by side on those
differently sized screens.
Thanks Todd I really appreciated the in depth analysis. Someone mentioned
the Krzr was considerably slower with the menus, probably a function of the
memory difference.
Bob
"Todd H." <t@toddh.net> wrote in message news:84fxzdbcws.fsf@ripco.com...
> "Fred" <none@none.com> writes:
>
>> If I am not using data (no 3G) is the Krzr esentially a V3xx clone?
>
> No. There are a number of differences, ann they're both different
> form factors.
>
> Here's a side by side comparison of specs
> http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/com...&id%5B%5D=1086
>
> V3xx has a lower resolution camera, about half the talk time, one less
> GSM band. On the plus side, though, it has 3G data rates as you know,
> 3x the memory of the Krzr (which if you store a bashitload in your
> calendar might be an issue?), and 2 WCDMA bands that the Krzr lacks
> (does WCDMA do anything for us AT&T folks by the way?), and the V3xx
> screen is 240 x 320 pixels vs the Krzr's screen which is 176 x 220
> pixels. That screen size and memory may be what sways you for your
> calendaring desires.
>
> Only you and your eyes and hands with the two in front of you will
> help you decide, I suspect.
>
>> Are there any other advantages to the V3xx (I do plan on extensive use
>> of the appt. calendar).
>
> Is there an AT&T store near you that carries both that might have two
> working demo models that you can compare side by side?
>
> Seems it's time to stop researching and time to get two of em side by
> side and pull the trigger. :-) The key for you I suspect will be
> eyeballing what the calendars look like side by side on those
> differently sized screens.
>
> --
> Todd H.
> http://toddh.net/
> Thanks Todd I really appreciated the in depth analysis. Someone
> mentioned the Krzr was considerably slower with the menus, probably a
> function of the memory difference.
I haven't had my hands on a v3xx for any extended period, but yeah,
the Krazr's menu's can be a little laggy. Not at all as bad as the
v3c I had before, but still not as zippy as any of the NOkia's I've
had (then again none of those were Java-fied or fancy though).
I suspect the difference has less to do with memory and much more to
do with the v3xx probably having a faster processor. But with that
comment I'm at the outer reaches of my knowledge of these embedded
platforms.
On 2007-11-11, Todd H. <t@toddh.net> wrote:
> calendar might be an issue?), and 2 WCDMA bands that the Krzr lacks
> (does WCDMA do anything for us AT&T folks by the way?), and the V3xx
> screen is 240 x 320 pixels vs the Krzr's screen which is 176 x 220
> pixels. That screen size and memory may be what sways you for your
> calendaring desires.
WCDMA is the 3G modulation.
If the European V3xx is any indication, 3G reception on the V3xx
may be none too good. I spent a few hours yesterday in a maginal
3G area, and when I got around to looking the phone had run its
battery (fully charged in the morning) down to the red zone, was
showing a connection to the carrier at 0 bars, and wouldn't
actually complete a call. Forcing it to switch to the carrier's
GSM network (why it wouldn't do that itself is another small
mystery to me) got it back to 4 bars, but it soon turned itself off
because of the battery.
My wife was carrying another 3G phone with service from the same
carrier. That phone is a very cheap, very ugly Samsung that the
carrier gave me for free in return for signing an 18-month, $15/month
contract. It had a mostly full battery, showed two bars of 3G signal
where the V3xx had none, and could complete calls where the V3xx
couldn't.
Todd H. <t@toddh.net> wrote:
> Is there an AT&T store near you that carries both that might have two
> working demo models that you can compare side by side?
It turns out that the difference in price was an upfront discount verses a
mail in rebate down to the same price.
By ordering online, I got the joy of talking to clueless order takers, and
possibly giving up on the V3xx and going to Nokia because of one bad V3xx
sample, which I thought was a model problem. The online folks are really
clueless.
Later, visiting a local store to correct problems with the way the online
order was performed, I was met by friendly knowledgeable staff. They were
very helpful, even though they got nothing out of the deal.
I wouldn't use an online site unless I was sure of what I wanted, and if
there is a variance from one unit to the next as bad as has been suggested
for my V3xx, that doesn't sound like a good idea even then, unless you are
in such a good signal area that a poor unit wouldn't be noticed.
You should visit the "authenticate" site though, as the discount, if it
exists, can be applied to your ongoing monthly charges.
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