Ah, I see. Sorry. I didn't see it on the AT&T web site.
I wonder if you have to activate it when you buy it through telesales.
At $350 I'd buy one as a quad-band world phone/web browser to use with
prepaid SIM cards and WiFi when traveling overseas, and to use with
T-Mobile prepaid in the U.S..
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:29:24 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:
>karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:43:07 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>>>> New Service Bought through AT&T Telesales:
>>>>
>>>> http://cellphonesmarket.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=707
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And use the September Discount code, code for any phone purchase
>>>> INCLUDING iPHONE.
>>>>
>>>> http://cellphonesmarket.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=78
>>> The iPhone is not sold via AT&T Telesales, so I don't think it will work.
>>
>>
>> Read the url. As of September 6, it is.
>
>Ah, I see. Sorry. I didn't see it on the AT&T web site.
>
>I wonder if you have to activate it when you buy it through telesales.
>At $350 I'd buy one as a quad-band world phone/web browser to use with
>prepaid SIM cards and WiFi when traveling overseas, and to use with
>T-Mobile prepaid in the U.S..
Other phones they sell activated, dont know about iPhone. It costs
another $99 for the third party software to unlock the iPhone. That
price will come down quickly as competitors appear or their software
appears on Torrents?
karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 05:38:10 -0500, "prc2u" <prc2u@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> why not just buy on apple.com for a refurbished unit, total cost $349?
>
> Cause a new one might not have a known problem, that you HOPE is
> fixed.
Possibly, but most of the products sold as "refurbished" are simply
returns that had nothing wrong with them in the first place. They just
can no longer be sold as new.
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 08:47:31 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:
>karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 05:38:10 -0500, "prc2u" <prc2u@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> why not just buy on apple.com for a refurbished unit, total cost $349?
>>
>> Cause a new one might not have a known problem, that you HOPE is
>> fixed.
>
>Possibly, but most of the products sold as "refurbished" are simply
>returns that had nothing wrong with them in the first place. They just
>can no longer be sold as new.
You have an URL for that, or just your conceptualization?
karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 08:47:31 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>>> On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 05:38:10 -0500, "prc2u" <prc2u@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> why not just buy on apple.com for a refurbished unit, total cost $349?
>>> Cause a new one might not have a known problem, that you HOPE is
>>> fixed.
>> Possibly, but most of the products sold as "refurbished" are simply
>> returns that had nothing wrong with them in the first place. They just
>> can no longer be sold as new.
>
>
> You have an URL for that, or just your conceptualization?
No percentages, but Apples web site states _While only some units are
returned due to technical issues, all units undergo Apple's stringent
quality refurbishment process. _.
For the iPhone, which has been out for only two months, the vast
majority of the refurbished units will be from customers that returned
them within the 30 day window, for whatever reason. Some people stood in
line and bought them in the hope of selling them on eBay in the
expectation of a Wii-like shortage, and then returned them when they
couldn't sell them. Some used it and didn't like it.
"SMS" wrote:> karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 05:38:10 -0500, "prc2u" <prc2u@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> why not just buy on apple.com for a refurbished unit, total cost $349?
>>
>> Cause a new one might not have a known problem, that you HOPE is
>> fixed.
>
> Possibly, but most of the products sold as "refurbished" are simply
> returns that had nothing wrong with them in the first place. They just can
> no longer be sold as new.
I think all refurbs are individually tested; some have suggested this might
make them better than an assembly line model where very few are individually
tested.
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:52:30 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:
>karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 08:47:31 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 05:38:10 -0500, "prc2u" <prc2u@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> why not just buy on apple.com for a refurbished unit, total cost $349?
>>>> Cause a new one might not have a known problem, that you HOPE is
>>>> fixed.
>>> Possibly, but most of the products sold as "refurbished" are simply
>>> returns that had nothing wrong with them in the first place. They just
>>> can no longer be sold as new.
>>
>>
>> You have an URL for that, or just your conceptualization?
>
>No percentages, but Apples web site states _While only some units are
>returned due to technical issues, all units undergo Apple's stringent
>quality refurbishment process. _.
Sorry to you and Apple, but I don't know
what percentage "some" is. 10, 20, 30 or 50,
we're just guessing
>
>For the iPhone, which has been out for only two months, the vast
>majority of the refurbished units will be from customers that returned
>them within the 30 day window, for whatever reason. Some people stood in
>line and bought them in the hope of selling them on eBay in the
>expectation of a Wii-like shortage, and then returned them when they
>couldn't sell them. Some used it and didn't like it.
In article <5ktbgtF5h0pgU1@mid.individual.net>, "Tinman" <ask@for.it>
wrote:
> "SMS" wrote:> karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> >> On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 05:38:10 -0500, "prc2u" <prc2u@wi.rr.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> why not just buy on apple.com for a refurbished unit, total cost $349?
> >>
> >> Cause a new one might not have a known problem, that you HOPE is
> >> fixed.
> >
> > Possibly, but most of the products sold as "refurbished" are simply
> > returns that had nothing wrong with them in the first place. They just can
> > no longer be sold as new.
>
> I think all refurbs are individually tested; some have suggested this might
> make them better than an assembly line model where very few are individually
> tested.
I've always had nothing but good experiences wtih refurbished
electronics. As was mentioned, they were probably bench tested better
than the new ones. Since most electronics tend to fail within a few
months if they are going to, you get the benefit of one with the bugs
out.
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