More Bad news today for Google and the Nexus One

Bad news today for Google and the Nexus One as investment firm Goldman
Sachs has slashed its estimate for Nexus One sales by a third.

Predicting a bright and rosy future for the Nexus One, Goldman Sachs
originally estimated that Google will sell 3.5 million Nexus Ones in
FY2010.

After a disappointing first month in which Google only sold a rumored
80,000 handsets, Goldman Sachs has lowered its 2010 estimate to a mere
one million handsets which will be sold across multiple carriers
including T-Mobile, Verizon Wireless, and Vodafone.

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/...handset-sales/

Poor Google, Android has become a festering pit of bad news with a
cascade of announcements that various carriers and manufactures are
pulling all references to Google from Android and replacing Android
contents with Yahoo or Bing in online updates!

No one at Google dreamed they would do that to their Google Android OS
when Google gave it away!

Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article
> <4d47c22d-4bee-491b-bed8-645ca3afd6a0@f8g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
> "FUTURE SHOCK: iPad Protected by 200 Patents" <vic.healey@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Bad news today for Google and the Nexus One as investment firm Goldman
>> Sachs has slashed its estimate for Nexus One sales by a third.
>
> Vic, why do you post this to the iPhone newsgroup? It has nothing to do
> with the iPhone.
>

It has nothing to do with Verizon either particularly. It's called
"trolling."

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"A smorgasbord of tomfoolery" - L0afy

The last sentence:
A fool and his money are soon parted, the saying goes. Let's hope most Apple fans are as
smart as they claim to be.


iPad Pre-Orders: For Idiots Only

http://www.pcworld.com/article/19143...nl_dnx_h_crawl

Friday morning, the fool's parade started. Apple is taking online "pre-orders" for its iPad tablet, which
is supposed to begin shipping on April 3. Buying a new kind of product sight unseen is foolish. Especially
given how mysterious Apple has been on what the iPad can do and what restrictions on capabilities and
media access it will place on users and content providers.

Why blow $500 to $830 on a device that may not be what you expect? Just wait a mere three weeks to
see for sure what it actually does and what surprises, good and bad, Apple has packed into the iPad.

Don't get me wrong: The iPad concept is promising in many ways. And I have no doubt that the iPad will
appeal to many people even if it's not perfect. But we've all seen promising product demonstrations that
resulted in major letdown when we finally got a hold of the real thing. Why take that chance? After all, the
first-generation iPad is particularly likely to have disappointments, as it's the version that will tell us what,
after the hoopla dies down, Apple should have done.

Sure, we can expect Apple to make future innovations in the iPhone OS (which the iPad uses) available to
the first generation of iPad devices through OS upgrades -- as Apple has nicely done for iPhone and iPod
Touch owners. But the iPad's hardware isn't upgradable, so you'll be stuck with the iPad's relatively low
amounts of memory and its lack of connectors such as USB that I would expect Apple to remedy inthe
future. And you'll be stuck with whatever iTunes-based content locks Apple decides to place on media
content and e-books.

Remember, the same thing happened with the iPod Touch, Apple's iPhone-based PDA. The first-generation
iPod Touch could play only a few sounds and even then only at a whisper, so its calendar alarms and
new-email alerts were useless unless you wearing its earphones. You couldn't change the volume without
using the touchscreen -- a real issue when driving, jogging, or carrying groceries. There was no microphone,
so you couldn't take voice memos or use services like Skype. (Apple even blocked external microphones from
working on it!) Despite Apple making sure each iPhone OS revision has continued to support the first-generation
iPod Touch, those hardware limits remain in the actual devices.

You can bet that similar types of issue will be discovered in the first iPad.

Maybe I'm wrong -- maybe the iPad will be the full "magic" that Steve Jobs promises. Wonderful! If that's the
case, buy one when you know it really is magic -- after people not employed by Apple have had a chance to
really use it and put it through its paces. Until then, why send Apple your money until you know for sure?
Doing so would be, well, foolish.

One positive sign in all this iPad hoopla: One of my breathless local TV news stations had its tech reporter at
an Apple Store Thursday night hoping to find people lined up to camp out so they could be first in line Friday
morning (at 8:30 a.m. Eastern time, 5:30 a.m. Pacific) to order an iPad -- the station was clearly hoping for the
kind of lemming-like frenzy we saw for Windows 95 (remember that?), the first iPhone, and for fan-driven
movies like the "Star Wars," "Star Trek," and "Harry Potter" franchises.

But guess what: There was no line. Sure, it looked like a few people were willing to go online first thing in the
morning to order their iPads sight unseen, or even head to an Apple Store before work today to order one. But
only a few. Maybe the infamous Jobs reality distortion field does have limits after all. (Yes, I know you can't
pre-order an iPad at the Apple Store. Clearly the TV station's anchorwoman didn't know when she asked the
on-the-scene reporter if people were lining up already. And I doubt she's alone in that misimpression.)

A fool and his money are soon parted, the saying goes. Let's hope most Apple fans are as smart as they claim to be.

On 3/13/10 12:54 PM, Ness-Net wrote:

<snip>

Gosh, if everyone thought like you, they'd all be smart! Unfortunately,
some of us think differently, thereby becoming idiots. Not sure how this
might be useful, but I'm sure you'll tell us.

Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <77qdnbakhMEfcAbWnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> "Ness-Net" <richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> wrote:
>
>> A fool and his money are soon parted, the saying goes. Let's hope most
>> Apple fans are as smart as they claim to be.
>
> You mean like the ones who bought up Apple stock at $10 a share at the
> December 1980 IPO and hung onto it? A $10 share purchased at the IPO is
> now worth $3,624. ($226.50 times four two-for-one splits.)
>
> $10 in 1980 is worth $26.30 now.

At interest it might have grown to that.

Generally, ten bucks thirty years ago is expressed in some fraction of
the original.

Or, "ten bucks in 2010 is the equivalent of $26.30 in 1980."

--
John McWilliams

"Salgud" <spamboy6547@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:hngvot$a7n$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 3/13/10 12:54 PM, Ness-Net wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> Gosh, if everyone thought like you, they'd all be smart! Unfortunately,
> some of us think differently, thereby becoming idiots. Not sure how this
> might be useful, but I'm sure you'll tell us.

Look at it from another angle- other than bragging rights, what benefit
comes from getting an iPad a few days early? I'd see the point of
pre-ordering if Apple offered an introductory discount, but pre-ordering at
full price without being 100% sure of the device's capabilities and
limitations, or whether the form factor even fits your style- (imagining
using it and actually using it are two different things!) or even whether
initial sales will be lukewarm enough to prompt an iPhone 1.0-style price
reduction a few weeks later, does seem to border on the foolish to me,
regardless of whether the product is from Apple or not.

In article <LrUmn.9566$ao7.3760@newsfe21.iad>, Todd Allcock
<elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:

> Look at it from another angle- other than bragging rights, what benefit
> comes from getting an iPad a few days early?

developers need them yesterday to test their apps.

> I'd see the point of
> pre-ordering if Apple offered an introductory discount, but pre-ordering at
> full price without being 100% sure of the device's capabilities and
> limitations,

it's not like you can't resell it with *very* little loss (and probably
a profit given the hype).

In article <LrUmn.9566$ao7.3760@newsfe21.iad>, Todd Allcock
<elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:

> Look at it from another angle- other than bragging rights, what benefit
> comes from getting an iPad a few days early? I'd see the point of
> pre-ordering if Apple offered an introductory discount, but pre-ordering at
> full price without being 100% sure of the device's capabilities and
> limitations, or whether the form factor even fits your style- (imagining
> using it and actually using it are two different things!) or even whether
> initial sales will be lukewarm enough to prompt an iPhone 1.0-style price
> reduction a few weeks later, does seem to border on the foolish to me,
> regardless of whether the product is from Apple or not.

I think if one has an iPhone or iPod Touch they have a pretty good idea
of what the devices capabilities and limitations will be. I can see the
rational for pre-ordering an iPad. That said personally although I
expect to get one because it will be useful to me I won't be
pre-ordering it. I must actually touch one first. While some can order
on faith I am not one of those.

--
Charles

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:130320101441075137%
nospam@nospam.invalid:

> t's not like you can't resell it with *very* little loss (and probably
> a profit given the hype).
>
>

Horseshit. iPad II will be out with a camera in it in 6 months and noone
will want iPad I...just like they don't want iPhone 1.0 with 4G of memory.

......then the price will drop by half after the initial blast like
iPhone....


--
"iPad is to computing what Etch-A-Sketch is to art!"

Larry

"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9D3B69364951noonehomecom@74.209.131.13...
> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:130320101441075137%
> nospam@nospam.invalid:
>
> > t's not like you can't resell it with *very* little loss (and probably
> > a profit given the hype).
>
> Horseshit. iPad II will be out with a camera in it in 6 months and noone
> will want iPad I...just like they don't want iPhone 1.0 with 4G of memory.
>
> .....then the price will drop by half after the initial blast like
> iPhone....

Get a brain Screcrow. :-\
Loser Larry shows his complete ignorance of everything as usual.

In article <Xns9D3B69364951noonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, Larry
<noone@home.com> wrote:

> > t's not like you can't resell it with *very* little loss (and probably
> > a profit given the hype).
>
> Horseshit. iPad II will be out with a camera in it in 6 months and noone
> will want iPad I...just like they don't want iPhone 1.0 with 4G of memory.

just like the ipod touch got a camera. oh wait, it didn't.

> .....then the price will drop by half after the initial blast like
> iPhone....

go look at what used ipod touches sell for. even broken ones sell for
nearly full price.

Any one here who bought an Original Apple II and how much did you pay for
it. (Note I asked about the Apple II, not the II+)

Noah
"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9D3B69364951noonehomecom@74.209.131.13...
> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:130320101441075137%
> nospam@nospam.invalid:
>
>> t's not like you can't resell it with *very* little loss (and probably
>> a profit given the hype).
>>
>>
>
> Horseshit. iPad II will be out with a camera in it in 6 months and noone
> will want iPad I...just like they don't want iPhone 1.0 with 4G of memory.
>
> .....then the price will drop by half after the initial blast like
> iPhone....
>
>
> --
> "iPad is to computing what Etch-A-Sketch is to art!"
>
> Larry
>

On 3/13/10 3:36 PM, Todd Allcock wrote:
>
> "Salgud" <spamboy6547@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:hngvot$a7n$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On 3/13/10 12:54 PM, Ness-Net wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Gosh, if everyone thought like you, they'd all be smart!
>> Unfortunately, some of us think differently, thereby becoming idiots.
>> Not sure how this might be useful, but I'm sure you'll tell us.
>
> Look at it from another angle- other than bragging rights, what benefit
> comes from getting an iPad a few days early? I'd see the point of
> pre-ordering if Apple offered an introductory discount, but pre-ordering
> at full price without being 100% sure of the device's capabilities and
> limitations, or whether the form factor even fits your style- (imagining
> using it and actually using it are two different things!) or even
> whether initial sales will be lukewarm enough to prompt an iPhone
> 1.0-style price reduction a few weeks later, does seem to border on the
> foolish to me, regardless of whether the product is from Apple or not.
>
>
I probably wouldn't order one before trying one myself, but that doesn't
make me smart and everyone pre-ordering dumb. Difference in preferences
is all. Who's to say that us more cautious types are smarter than
others? I'll tell you what's idiotic. Judging people because of when
they order their iPad.

That sounds about right, consistent with what I paid.

Store was run by two people who had worked for IBM before opening the store.

My Apple II was serial number 1946.

Noah
"Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in message
news:michelle-02C6B9.19414114032010@nothing.attdns.com...
> In article <1268592671_3703@news.newsville.com>, "Noah" <acpa@eritter.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Any one here who bought an Original Apple II and how much did you pay for
>> it. (Note I asked about the Apple II, not the II+)
>
> I bought one in October 1978; if my memory is correct, it was $1149 for a
> 16K model.
>
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> Member American Civil Liberties Union
> Member Human Rights Campaign
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