Q: Why is charging of Motorola phones so slow on the travel charger?
A: The standard travel charger packaged by Motorola with many current
phones puts out insufficient power for fastest possible charging and for
continuous use while charging.
For example, charger SSW-0509 for the V551 puts out only 375 mA. The
V551 detects this as a slow charger, and thus keeps the external display
backlight off during charging. Worse, there's not enough current to
keep up with use of the phone while charging, so while the phone is use,
the battery will still be discharged even with the phone on the charger.
With a fast charger the external display backlight is on during
charging, and the phone can be used while the battery is charging.
Motorola makes fast 1500 mA chargers that are compatible with these phones:
* SPN4716* (where * might be "B" or "C"), also known as
* NNTN4250 (nominally for Nextel, but also works with non-Nextel phones).
These chargers are readily available from dealers and on eBay for under
$15 (plus shipping).
(For what it's worth, Motorola probably saved less than $1 in cost by
packaging slow chargers instead of fast chargers with these phones.)
Q: Where can I get USB modem drivers for Motorola cell phones?
A: In <OsJZe.28766$h02.4...@tornado.texas.rr.com> on Mon, 26 Sep 2005 02:57:50
GMT, "David" <no.s...@thisaddress.com> wrote:
>If you are trying to get your Motorola phone to look like a modem. The
>following information from, BRVP's (of Mobile PhoneTools fame) may be of
>help:
>
>Trouble installing or updating Motorola USB Modem drivers
>
>Motorola phones use the built-in Windows USB modem driver (usbser.sys) for
>communication with MPT. The USBMOT2000.INF driver file (which comes with
>MPT) lists the USB product IDs for Motorola phones and instructs Windows to
>use the usbser.sys file with them.
>
>Unfortunately, the drivers may not be installed correctly for the phone in
>any of these situations:
>
>- The phone was plugged in before installing MPT and the user cancelled out
>of the hardware wizard.
>
>- The user had an old version of MPT (and thus an old version of the driver
>file) that did not contain the product ID for a very new phone (for example,
>the E815). And, even after LiveUpdating to the latest version of MPT, the
>new driver file is not installed.
>
>Recently, BVRP posted a driver installation tool on their website, developed
>by Motorola, that will remove all instances of the old drivers and any
>traces of previously installed phones. It will then install the latest
>drivers and reinstall the phone, solving any issues. The driver tool is at
>this location:
>
>http://www.bvrp.com/Customers/Motorola/DriverTool.zip
In article <HgIxh.19495$Xq6.19448@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
This is why Mr. Navas is a dickwad. He posts this same crap about every
two weeks.
Get a life, John. Find a woman...go get drunk...but enough of this
horseshit.
> Q: Why is charging of Motorola phones so slow on the travel charger?
>
> A: The standard travel charger packaged by Motorola with many current
> phones puts out insufficient power for fastest possible charging and for
> continuous use while charging.
>
> For example, charger SSW-0509 for the V551 puts out only 375 mA. The
> V551 detects this as a slow charger, and thus keeps the external display
> backlight off during charging. Worse, there's not enough current to
> keep up with use of the phone while charging, so while the phone is use,
> the battery will still be discharged even with the phone on the charger.
> With a fast charger the external display backlight is on during
> charging, and the phone can be used while the battery is charging.
>
> Motorola makes fast 1500 mA chargers that are compatible with these phones:
> * SPN4716* (where * might be "B" or "C"), also known as
> * NNTN4250 (nominally for Nextel, but also works with non-Nextel phones).
> These chargers are readily available from dealers and on eBay for under
> $15 (plus shipping).
>
> (For what it's worth, Motorola probably saved less than $1 in cost by
> packaging slow chargers instead of fast chargers with these phones.)
Actually I was going to ask John to post this everyday. Evidently he
feels that we don't/can't remember this.
Randall Ainsworth wrote:
> In article <HgIxh.19495$Xq6.19448@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
> This is why Mr. Navas is a dickwad. He posts this same crap about every
> two weeks.
>
> Get a life, John. Find a woman...go get drunk...but enough of this
> horseshit.
>
>> Q: Why is charging of Motorola phones so slow on the travel charger?
>>
>> A: The standard travel charger packaged by Motorola with many current
>> phones puts out insufficient power for fastest possible charging and for
>> continuous use while charging.
>>
>> For example, charger SSW-0509 for the V551 puts out only 375 mA. The
>> V551 detects this as a slow charger, and thus keeps the external display
>> backlight off during charging. Worse, there's not enough current to
>> keep up with use of the phone while charging, so while the phone is use,
>> the battery will still be discharged even with the phone on the charger.
>> With a fast charger the external display backlight is on during
>> charging, and the phone can be used while the battery is charging.
>>
>> Motorola makes fast 1500 mA chargers that are compatible with these phones:
>> * SPN4716* (where * might be "B" or "C"), also known as
>> * NNTN4250 (nominally for Nextel, but also works with non-Nextel phones).
>> These chargers are readily available from dealers and on eBay for under
>> $15 (plus shipping).
>>
>> (For what it's worth, Motorola probably saved less than $1 in cost by
>> packaging slow chargers instead of fast chargers with these phones.)
John Navas wrote:
> Q: Why is charging of Motorola phones so slow on the travel charger?
>
> A: The standard travel charger packaged by Motorola with many current
> phones puts out insufficient power for fastest possible charging and for
> continuous use while charging.
>
> For example, charger SSW-0509 for the V551 puts out only 375 mA. The
> V551 detects this as a slow charger, and thus keeps the external display
> backlight off during charging. Worse, there's not enough current to
> keep up with use of the phone while charging, so while the phone is use,
> the battery will still be discharged even with the phone on the charger.
> With a fast charger the external display backlight is on during
> charging, and the phone can be used while the battery is charging.
>
> Motorola makes fast 1500 mA chargers that are compatible with these phones:
> * SPN4716* (where * might be "B" or "C"), also known as
> * NNTN4250 (nominally for Nextel, but also works with non-Nextel phones).
> These chargers are readily available from dealers and on eBay for under
> $15 (plus shipping).
>
> (For what it's worth, Motorola probably saved less than $1 in cost by
> packaging slow chargers instead of fast chargers with these phones.)
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Q: Where can I get USB modem drivers for Motorola cell phones?
>
> A: In <OsJZe.28766$h02.4...@tornado.texas.rr.com> on Mon, 26 Sep 2005 02:57:50
> GMT, "David" <no.s...@thisaddress.com> wrote:
>
>> If you are trying to get your Motorola phone to look like a modem. The
>> following information from, BRVP's (of Mobile PhoneTools fame) may be of
>> help:
>>
>> Trouble installing or updating Motorola USB Modem drivers
>>
>> Motorola phones use the built-in Windows USB modem driver (usbser.sys) for
>> communication with MPT. The USBMOT2000.INF driver file (which comes with
>> MPT) lists the USB product IDs for Motorola phones and instructs Windows to
>> use the usbser.sys file with them.
>>
>> Unfortunately, the drivers may not be installed correctly for the phone in
>> any of these situations:
>>
>> - The phone was plugged in before installing MPT and the user cancelled out
>> of the hardware wizard.
>>
>> - The user had an old version of MPT (and thus an old version of the driver
>> file) that did not contain the product ID for a very new phone (for example,
>> the E815). And, even after LiveUpdating to the latest version of MPT, the
>> new driver file is not installed.
>>
>> Recently, BVRP posted a driver installation tool on their website, developed
>> by Motorola, that will remove all instances of the old drivers and any
>> traces of previously installed phones. It will then install the latest
>> drivers and reinstall the phone, solving any issues. The driver tool is at
>> this location:
>>
>> http://www.bvrp.com/Customers/Motorola/DriverTool.zip
Hello, John,
Perhaps you can tell me what I need to know. I have the RAZR V3 model,
and a Motorola H500 headset. The chargers for the phone and headset
have different model number, but the same input and output specs, as
well as the same connector. Is it ok to use them interchangeably? If
so, then I don't need to take both chargers with me when I travel. Need
to know asap as I have a trip scheduled for Monday Feb. 12.
Ron Hunter wrote:
<snip> Hello, John,
>
> Perhaps you can tell me what I need to know. I have the RAZR V3
> model, and a Motorola H500 headset. The chargers for the phone and
> headset have different model number, but the same input and output
> specs, as well as the same connector. Is it ok to use them
> interchangeably? If so, then I don't need to take both chargers with
> me when I travel. Need to know asap as I have a trip scheduled for
> Monday Feb. 12.
> Ron Hunter
In article <F7Cdnd_hUvwciFPYnZ2dnUVZ_uKknZ2d@giganews.com>, Ron Hunter
<rphunter@charter.net> wrote:
> Perhaps you can tell me what I need to know. I have the RAZR V3 model,
> and a Motorola H500 headset. The chargers for the phone and headset
> have different model number, but the same input and output specs, as
> well as the same connector. Is it ok to use them interchangeably? If
> so, then I don't need to take both chargers with me when I travel. Need
> to know asap as I have a trip scheduled for Monday Feb. 12.
Navas is an idiot. He posts that same diatribe about chargers about
every two weeks.
I've got a V3 and an H700 headset...and use the same charger for both.
No problems.
bruceR wrote:
> You sure can!
>
> Ron Hunter wrote:
> <snip> Hello, John,
>> Perhaps you can tell me what I need to know. I have the RAZR V3
>> model, and a Motorola H500 headset. The chargers for the phone and
>> headset have different model number, but the same input and output
>> specs, as well as the same connector. Is it ok to use them
>> interchangeably? If so, then I don't need to take both chargers with
>> me when I travel. Need to know asap as I have a trip scheduled for
>> Monday Feb. 12.
>> Ron Hunter
>
>
Thanks Bruce.
I found out by accidental experimentation (my wife got them
interchanged), so I already knew. I didn't think Motorola would be dumb
enough to put out chargers with the same plug and different
voltage/polarity/current. I also ran into a statement elsewhere that
the phone can be charged from a USB port, and I will be carrying my
laptop, so that is another charging method.
Randall Ainsworth wrote:
> In article <F7Cdnd_hUvwciFPYnZ2dnUVZ_uKknZ2d@giganews.com>, Ron Hunter
> <rphunter@charter.net> wrote:
>
>> Perhaps you can tell me what I need to know. I have the RAZR V3 model,
>> and a Motorola H500 headset. The chargers for the phone and headset
>> have different model number, but the same input and output specs, as
>> well as the same connector. Is it ok to use them interchangeably? If
>> so, then I don't need to take both chargers with me when I travel. Need
>> to know asap as I have a trip scheduled for Monday Feb. 12.
>
> Navas is an idiot. He posts that same diatribe about chargers about
> every two weeks.
>
> I've got a V3 and an H700 headset...and use the same charger for both.
> No problems.
No, he is NOT an idiot. He is very knowledgeable, but is a bit hard to
take. I have known him online for many years.
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 12:57:02 -0600, Ron Hunter <rphunter@charter.net>
wrote in <F7Cdnd_hUvwciFPYnZ2dnUVZ_uKknZ2d@giganews.com>:
>Hello, John,
>
>Perhaps you can tell me what I need to know. I have the RAZR V3 model,
>and a Motorola H500 headset. The chargers for the phone and headset
>have different model number, but the same input and output specs, as
>well as the same connector. Is it ok to use them interchangeably? ...
In a word, yes.
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
Avoid "Wireless" brand AC charger (sold at Target)
I was out of town without any chargers and running low on battery power
in my Motorola V551, so I dropped into a local Target to buy an AC
(wall) changer as a quick fix. The brand was "Wireless". I didn't
expect it to be as fast as the Motorola fast charger, but I expected at
least a decent charge rate. What I got was a painfully slow charge rate
that made even the standard wimpy Motorola charger look good -- after
three hours of charging a "flat" battery with the phone turned off
(between my morning and afternoon meetings) the phone was still showing
single bar charging, and indeed I found very low charge when I took it
off the charger. NOT recommended.
On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 15:43:35 GMT, John Navas
<spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in
<HgIxh.19495$Xq6.19448@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>:
>Q: Why is charging of Motorola phones so slow on the travel charger?
>
>A: The standard travel charger packaged by Motorola with many current
>phones puts out insufficient power for fastest possible charging and for
>continuous use while charging.
>
>For example, charger SSW-0509 for the V551 puts out only 375 mA. The
>V551 detects this as a slow charger, and thus keeps the external display
>backlight off during charging. Worse, there's not enough current to
>keep up with use of the phone while charging, so while the phone is use,
>the battery will still be discharged even with the phone on the charger.
>With a fast charger the external display backlight is on during
>charging, and the phone can be used while the battery is charging.
>
>Motorola makes fast 1500 mA chargers that are compatible with these phones:
>* SPN4716* (where * might be "B" or "C"), also known as
>* NNTN4250 (nominally for Nextel, but also works with non-Nextel phones).
>These chargers are readily available from dealers and on eBay for under
>$15 (plus shipping).
>
>(For what it's worth, Motorola probably saved less than $1 in cost by
>packaging slow chargers instead of fast chargers with these phones.)
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
Motorola cell phones FAQ 
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